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[W: #851] At least 24 dead in Texas flooding; authorities search for Camp Mystic campers

Unbelievable foolish comment. You have no idea the damage that freak storm did in the space of two - three hours.
According to ABC news the river rose 26 feet in 45 minutes in the middle of the night.

But its Trumps fault. And libs wonder why we dont take them seriously
 
And to be honest, this is a minor compared to the hurricanes that are coming.

It's still horrible of course and we need FEMA. But Republicans are going to kill it.

And I think most Republicans know that we need FEMA. They're just staying in line until it hurts them personally.



"Parents were desperate for news about campers who remain missing from Camp Mystic, a Christian girls camp at the river's edge. On Friday evening, about two dozen campers were unaccounted for."



Should have prayed harder. Im sorry but I have very little sympathy for Texas Christians at this point.
 
Trump has promised federal help for Texas. He promised it on his way to his golf course. He cares deeply. Never mind that his goal was to put more burden on states to take care of these things with reduced federal assistance. What a great and caring president we have. I am sure he will struggle with his emotions as he wins his next round of golf while thinking about the poor victims of this tragedy.

I disagree with this policy. Texas should pull itself up by its own bootstraps and not rely on federal handouts. Texas supposedly is a strong and powerful economy so they should not yet again be bailed out by blue states.
 
I disagree with this policy. Texas should pull itself up by its own bootstraps and not rely on federal handouts. Texas supposedly is a strong and powerful economy so they should not yet again be bailed out by blue states.
I know you are just being snarky but there is no reason any state in the union should need federal help for a localized flood like this
 
CNN will broadcast a news conference scheduled within minutes.
 
Why do Republicans hate accurate weather forecasting?

Right because the state of Texas has no weather forecasters of their own. :rolleyes: Its like you libs think that life isnt possible if the central authority isnt in charge of literally every fricking thing
 
According to ABC news the river rose 26 feet in 45 minutes in the middle of the night.

That's just staggering. I literally can't imagine that happening.

But its Trumps fault. And libs wonder why we dont take them seriously

I don't think anyone's really saying it's Trump's fault, but people are rightly criticizing him for not taking the dangers of climate change more seriously, and in fact, seem to be in outright denial that it's happening. I mean they're scrubbing any and all mention of climate change from government websites. They're firing the people who publish papers and do research on it. They're cutting NOAA, which is not only removing resources for climate change but also for weather forecasting to warn residents of potentially catastrophic weather like this.

You don't think it's fair to criticize an administration during a time of weather and climate crisis when they have done so much harm to the institutions that monitor and research such phenomena?
 
Right because the state of Texas has no weather forecasters of their own. :rolleyes:
It does, but they rely on NWS (NOAA).

Its like you libs think that life isnt possible if the central authority isnt in charge of literally every fricking thing
It's not just a "lib" thing, since humanity long ago figured out that it's much easier to get results efficiently if we pool resources and build things we all benefit from; kind of why we decided to become the United States versus independent states. Centralization helps in standardizing information and its distribution too. In this case, it's easier for the federal government to fund these types of services since they benefit the country as a whole, and one can certainly argue it's in the interest of self defense as well.
 
I just... can't today.

I was raised in Kerrville Tx, and went to summer camp at Camp Stewart, which is owned by the same group that owns Heart o' the Hills, who had a loss while trying to help other counselors while the river continued to rise. My family is very familiar with the Ragsdale family who owns these camps, and Jane Ragsdale was "swept away" trying to help others. Her name was released this morning. All of this is right down the road from Camp Mystic where there are 20+ girls still missing. While I did not know this other family, "the mother of missing Camp Mystic camper Janie Hunt, 9, told CNN in a message this morning that her daughter has passed away."


I moved away from Kerrville to Atlanta at 17, but was raised in the hill country and know many out there.

Spent most of yesterday checking on friends, friends of friends, along side my cousin who also knows people out there, and seeing if there was any information and anything I could do from way over here. I found out this morning that the Glen Rose Cemetery in Kerrville which is just across route 27 from the flooded Guadalupe River is only moderately damaged. That is where my mother rests. A local store and BBQ place along side a volunteer fire department in Hunt Tx is "entirely gone." That town is closest to these summer camps I am talking about.

I am not going to comment much on Texas politics overall, don't care much for it, but Kerrville has less than 25K people living there, many retired from Houston, Austin, and the like. Quiet community known for the arts, hill country, rodeos, summer camps, hunting, fishing, retreats, etc. Local officials, police and Kerr county sheriffs, are literally the people that live next door doing all they can in awful conditions looking for as so many still missing. If there was some sort of delay in notifications I cannot imagine why but I can say the Guadalupe River, and further west where there is a south and north fork, took so much water so fast that it was realized within minutes (not hours.) Records were nearly broken, both in river flood peak and time to get there. What I cannot find is direct evidence "local officials" sat back and watched a mess play out just cause.

Bash if you must, but at least get it right and consider carefully social media litigating what they know... really, what they do not know.

In the meantime I am going on little sleep, and even less patience, concerned for a few I have not heard from yet, and while there are families out there looking for their little girls as young as perhaps 8 (earlier I was told the missing were 11-13, looks like things are getting worse before getting better.)
 
I disagree with this policy. Texas should pull itself up by its own bootstraps and not rely on federal handouts. Texas supposedly is a strong and powerful economy so they should not yet again be bailed out by blue states.

Texas has proven itself to be inadequate in taking care of itself during natural disasters, or even taking steps to anticipate and be ready for them. There is a good reason that federal programs have come into being to help such cases. Some seem to think the federal government jsut likes to make up,departments to throw its weight around for no good reason. History has taught too many far too little.


 
Texas has proven itself to be inadequate in taking care of itself during natural disasters, or even taking steps to anticipate and be ready for them. There is a good reason that federal programs have come into being to help such cases. Some seem to think the federal government jsut likes to make up,departments to throw its weight around for no good reason. History has taught too many far too little.


This seems like a perfect time for Texas to step up their game and stop begging for handouts.
 
Coordination and efficiency.

Same reasons it makes sense to have one national military instead of 50 little ones.
We need national coordination and efficiency for a local flood?
Holy shit. It’s like you want your fellow Americans to die.
What an incredibly stupid and dishonest thing to say. Its almost like you libs just cant help yourselves anymore.
 
That's just staggering. I literally can't imagine that happening.



I don't think anyone's really saying it's Trump's fault, but people are rightly criticizing him for not taking the dangers of climate change more seriously, and in fact, seem to be in outright denial that it's happening. I mean they're scrubbing any and all mention of climate change from government websites. They're firing the people who publish papers and do research on it. They're cutting NOAA, which is not only removing resources for climate change but also for weather forecasting to warn residents of potentially catastrophic weather like this.

You don't think it's fair to criticize an administration during a time of weather and climate crisis when they have done so much harm to the institutions that monitor and research such phenomena?

It’s going to get worse. These illegal budget cuts gutting NOAA, and the obstinate refusal to accept the opinion of experts on the part of Trump and his supporters will kill Americans in the future. No doubt.
 
What is wrong with the bolded?

Obviously Texas still needs help from the federal government. Why does Trump promise help from a source that he wants to eliminate and how will Texas deal with future disasters that they still apparently need help with?
 
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