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[W:775]Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

Election law had been the same since 2016. For a CRIMINAL prosecution, it must be shown that the accused is aware of the law and broke it anyways.

Who said anything about a CRIMINAL prosecution?

Just admit you don't know the law that FBI Director Wray knows. and all educated people know, and keep on defending Trump.
 
Any information from any foreign government official is an illegal campaign contribution. It's just especially egregious if a candidate is taking that information from a country that has proven that their goal is to weaken our democratic processes. That Trump doesn't seem to understand this speaks to his egotism ("the rules don't apply to me") and his lack of patriotism.

What disgusts me the most about this is how hard his supporters are trying to excuse it.

Yet again-- such a standard applies to the Steele Dossier.
 
Who said anything about a CRIMINAL prosecution?

Just admit you don't know the law that FBI Director Wray knows. and all educated people know, and keep on defending Trump.

There was no law broken.
 
I agree, I'm just weary of trying to explain that to the Trumpsters on this forum.

They are being spoon fed lies, and they come here to repeat them.

It's disgusting to watch Trump fans spin and lie this way but it isn't surprising, is it?
 
Steele himself has said he doesn't know the identify of many of the people who provided him with the information.
Why trust they were legit? Maybe Steele fell victim to the Russian plot.

And now you rest you ideology on "maybe". That pretty much winds up your contributions to this topic.
 
There was no law broken.

Who said there was a law broken? WTF are you babbling about now?

Do you have any idea what we are discussing in this thread? It was Trump's words about what he would do in 2020. Get a god damn grip on yourself.
 
Fusion GPS is an American company. That is an undisputed fact. Stop going off tangent about Steele. Free Beacon and the DNC paid an American company.

I don't expect you to be outraged by Trump's comments. You hate America and our democracy.

LOL. Steele was a foreigner and his sources who provided the info for his dossier are foreigners.
If it's ok and legal for Clinton to take such information from such people (and it is legal and she of course did), then it's ok for for Trump to do the same (and, of course, he didn't).

If you wish to denounce the morality of talking info from foreigners, that's ok. But yet again, Clinton did this in 2016, not Trump. The outrage is over something which hypothetically might happen; there would be no repeat performance.
 
Who said there was a law broken? WTF are you babbling about now?

Do you have any idea what we are discussing in this thread? It was Trump's words about what he would do in 2020. Get a god damn grip on yourself.

He mentioned Norway-- an ally.
Clinton got info from Putin.
 
There was no law broken.

That and I take Trump for what he does, not what he is. There is no reason to subject the country to another four years of democrat economic fumbling as the multinationals sell the workingman out for cheap Chinese labor.

Regarding dirt on an opponent, that’s rich. I guess he should give the info to Peter Struzk and trust him to do the right thing?

Trump has successfully trolled the TDS’ers yet again!
 
LOL. Steele was a foreigner and his sources who provided the info for his dossier are foreigners.
If it's ok and legal for Clinton to take such information from such people (and it is legal and she of course did), then it's ok for for Trump to do the same (and, of course, he didn't).

If you wish to denounce the morality of talking info from foreigners, that's ok. But yet again, Clinton did this in 2016, not Trump. The outrage is over something which hypothetically might happen; there would be no repeat performance.

Once again, do you know what is going on?

Clinton and the Free Beacon hired Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS is an American company.

I'd say your display of ignorance is surprising, but it isn't. It's predictable.
 
And now you rest you ideology on "maybe". That pretty much winds up your contributions to this topic.

If you wish to give Russia the benefit of the doubt, go right ahead. I am not clear if you are as charitable when Russia denies any sort of interference in 2016.
 
He mentioned Norway-- an ally.
Clinton got info from Putin.

I'd ask you to link to some evidence of your last statement, but it's pointless for 2 reasons. One is you are just lying through your teeth. Two is it's pointless to discuss anything with you. You are more embedded than the 900 Jones supporters who drank poison in 1978 because their leader told them to.

Someone else can waste time with you. Reading your lies is a waste of my time.
 
Once again, do you know what is going on?

Clinton and the Free Beacon hired Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS is an American company.

I'd say your display of ignorance is surprising, but it isn't. It's predictable.

Steele and his sources aren't.
But hey, why get bent out of shape? Trump would be a fool in 2020 if doesn't hire American lawyers to hire some guy to get info on foreigners.
 
Any information from any foreign government official is an illegal campaign contribution..

Much of the info in the Steele Dossier came from Russian foreign government officials.
 
I'd ask you to link to some evidence of your last statement, but it's pointless for 2 reasons. One is you are just lying through your teeth. Two is it's pointless to discuss anything with you. You are more embedded than the 900 Jones supporters who drank poison in 1978 because their leader told them to.

Someone else can waste time with you. Reading your lies is a waste of my time.

Apparently as long as the foreign information is laundered through an American, its ok.
Hopefully, Trump will remember this.

Meanwhile, why trust annonymous Russian sources?
 
Collusion is conspiracy.
There was no conspiracy to fix the 2016 election.
It didn't happen.
That's contrary to Mueller's report findings.

The reply is explained perfectly in the New Yorker:

In the political and popular vernacular, collusion has been incorrectly conflated with its legal equivalent: criminal conspiracy. Mueller said that he found insufficient evidence of a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government—a finding that Trump keeps insisting means there was “no collusion.”

But the special counsel noted in his report that there were “numerous links (i.e., contacts) between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign.” The report also found that affiliates of the Trump campaign repeatedly promoted the work of Russia’s innocuously named Internet Research Agency (I.R.A.), which carried out Moscow’s election-interference operations through a social-media campaign and used various means to communicate directly with the campaign.

The report notes that “on multiple occasions, members and surrogates of the Trump Campaign promoted—typically by linking, retweeting, or similar methods of reposting—pro-Trump or anti-Clinton content published by the IRA through IRA-controlled social media accounts.” Both sides then lied about the meetings and other contacts, which were designed to help Trump win the election.

Collusion is defined by Merriam-Webster’s as a “secret agreement or cooperation, especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose,” such as “acting in collusion with the enemy.” Under that definition, the contacts between Trump’s campaign and Russia, an avowed enemy of the United States, at least amounted to coöperation with a deceitful purpose.
 
HIllary did not hire Steele. She hired Fusion GPS, an American firm.


Trump, on national television, invited Russia to commit espionage, and deliver the work product of that espionage to the American press.


They listened, they complied, and the President appreciated it.

That message is 100% false.
 
There is nothing illegal about communications from or to Russia, anyone in the Russian government, or any other government.

Recognize this for what it is: The Democratic Party HATES the TRUTH. They have an open war on the truth - and are TERRIFIED at the "dirt" other governments and foreigners have on their politicians and candidates.

They want it a criminal offense to investigate Biden's dealings with China, the Clinton's dealings with Russia and all the crimes and corruptions of other Democratic Party officeholders and politicians. They are SCREAMINGLY demanding investigating them MUST be made a criminal offense. They demand a cover up of their crimes, lies and corruption.
 
If you wish to give Russia the benefit of the doubt, go right ahead. I am not clear if you are as charitable when Russia denies any sort of interference in 2016.

Says the guy worshipping trump and russian intel over allied intel
 
I'd ask you to link to some evidence of your last statement, but it's pointless for 2 reasons. One is you are just lying through your teeth. Two is it's pointless to discuss anything with you. You are more embedded than the 900 Jones supporters who drank poison in 1978 because their leader told them to.

Someone else can waste time with you. Reading your lies is a waste of my time.

Pretty much sums him up. He's outright lying in defense of the prophet Trump.
 
Says the guy worshipping trump and russian intel over allied intel

Hello: the Steele Dossier came from anonymous Russian sources. Without this document, why even think there was a conspiracy betwixt Russia and Trump?
 
Yet again-- such a standard applies to the Steele Dossier.

No, it does not. The Clinton campaign hired an American company, Fusion GPS, who in turn hired a private citizen, Christopher Steele. Nothing about that involved a foreign government.
 
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