[W:758:802]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Why lie? lol post #712 (along with yor own link) already destroyed your false claims
Then you ddged and ran from my questions . .lets watch it happen AGAIN!



opcorn2:

Answer post #746 please.

You probably won't though, i hope the new guy will, doesn't seem likely.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Answer post #746 please.

You probably won't though, i hope the new guy will, doesn't seem likely.

BOOM!!!! another dodge and lie just like i said!
This is too awesome!:lamo

your own link says you are wrong . . guess you didnt read it? LMAO

Experts say many factors have contributed to the rapid rise, though the biggest one may be less frequent condom use.

“We’ve seen a tremendous increase in many areas primarily due to the eroding public health infrastructure,” he said. “The lack of funding at the state and local level to really invest in prevention work is not just about medications, it’s about disease investigators who meet with the individual who is infected and talk about their behavior and do contact tracing to try to prevent the future spread.”

Along with declines in funding, there are two other factors driving the skyrocketing STD rates, Harvey said. “There is an extreme lack of awareness about STDs and sexual health," he said, "and doctors are not screening and testing for these diseases and patients don’t know they need to ask to be tested."

Education, access to resources (like stand alone clinics and Planned parenthood) and improving healthcare are factors to improving this issue and have shown to work in the past.

is behavior "a" factor . . of course but its only part of that factor . . education, healthcare and access is a more important issue because it helps curb SOME of the behavior

i here the dodge train coming again!!!

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

BOOM!!!! another dodge and lie just like i said!
This is too awesome!:lamo



i here the dodge train coming again!!!

Do you think i am afraid to admit to something?

No not every statement I've made is 100%, i can admit that.

I don't even know what you are looking for.

Glad to see you have no problem with spreading diseases, suicide and depression for all!

The liberal Trifecta!

 

[NWRatCon]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Why lie? lol post #712 (along with yor own link) already destroyed your false claims
Then you ddged and ran from my questions . .lets watch it happen AGAIN!

There is manifest, over and over, and over again, on this board, and particularly in this thread, a complete inability to understand the basic functions of logic by the OP and his supporters. The favorite fallacy, repeated ad nauseam, is the non sequitur. It usually goes something like this: If Liberals, then I'm right. There may or may not be any steps in between. Sometimes they'll throw in an assertion, but virtually never connect that assertion to a source, or the argument itself. So, it becomes if "a", and "b", therefore "z". You can point out the flaws forever, provide refutation, it doesn't matter. They know they're "right", so nothing else applies. It's like talking to a flat-Earther.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Do you think i am afraid to admit to something?

No not every statement I've made is 100%, i can admit that.

I don't even know what you are looking for.

Glad to see you have no problem with spreading diseases, suicide and depression for all!

The liberal Trifecta!

BOOM! another dodge, more lies and meaningless meltdown. Owning your lies is so awesome!

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

There is manifest, over and over, and over again, on this board, and particularly in this thread, a complete inability to understand the basic functions of logic by the OP and his supporters. The favorite fallacy, repeated ad nauseam, is the non sequitur. It usually goes something like this: If Liberals, then I'm right. There may or may not be any steps in between. Sometimes they'll throw in an assertion, but virtually never connect that assertion to a source, or the argument itself. So, it becomes if "a", and "b", therefore "z". You can point out the flaws forever, provide refutation, it doesn't matter. They know they're "right", so nothing else applies. It's like talking to a flat-Earther.

AGreed but to be fair (and you did say THIS thread) there are nutjobs that do the same thing in the other direction and those posts are made fun of too
There are many threads here that are honest and based on facts and integrity this just inst one of them

but you are right it is liken to flat earthers and birthers etc . . its hilarious . .

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

There is manifest, over and over, and over again, on this board, and particularly in this thread, a complete inability to understand the basic functions of logic by the OP and his supporters. The favorite fallacy, repeated ad nauseam, is the non sequitur. It usually goes something like this: If Liberals, then I'm right. There may or may not be any steps in between. Sometimes they'll throw in an assertion, but virtually never connect that assertion to a source, or the argument itself. So, it becomes if "a", and "b", therefore "z". You can point out the flaws forever, provide refutation, it doesn't matter. They know they're "right", so nothing else applies. It's like talking to a flat-Earther.

Tell that to std, suicide, and depression victims!

The right believes in God, which is a natural anti depressant.

The right believes you shouldn't sleep around like there is no tomorrow, which naturally fights the spread of STDs.

The right believes again in God, which says suicide is a sin, another natural counter to suicide.

So you two have fun in your circle jerk, while the same people you are defending are suffering greatly and don't know why.

I know why.

 

[Gina]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Moderator's Warning:

Stop the snarking at each other and address the topic. Also, be productive in the thread. Repetitive responses are not productive.

 

[NWRatCon]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Answer post #746 please.

ROFL. RBIII, you do realize (probably not) that your post #746 exemplifies exactly what I just said. "STDs are on the rise, therefore "liberals." "Classic non sequitur. Or, more technically, utter nonsense.

 

[HumblePi]

Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

It seems like on every issue, if you logically play it out, the left runs away. We never discuss logic, and i think the right has logic on their side and the left has ideas on their side. Problem is, logic always wins. I don't know what i'm looking for here, i'm just a little exhausted. It seems whenever people here and in the world are faced with logic, a crash happens.

I swear i am not on the right, but i have moved towards the right recently because of the environment we live in.

Please explain the logic in Jared Kushner tried to establish a back-channel with Sergei Kisylak in a Russian facility in the U.S.? Jared even admitted that he discussed the possibility of communicating privately with Moscow during the transition and he even suggested going through the Russian embassy. Where is the logic in that? Let's play that out, shall we?

Jared Kushner was denied a top-security clearance by the normal process for granting a security clearance. The process involves the White House’s personnel security office making a determination following an FBI background check. Even Don McGahn and John Kelly believed that Kushner should not get top-security clearance. I'm sure they all had some pretty logical reasons. But why did Donald Trump go over everyone's heads and get Kushner his security clearance. Where is the logic in that?

You are facing a logical question that deserves a logical answer. Please don't run away from it.

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

ROFL. RBIII, you do realize (probably not) that your post #746 exemplifies exactly what I just said. "STDs are on the rise, therefore "liberals." "Classic non sequitur. Or, more technically, utter nonsense.

I gave you my reasons for believing this in post #747.

Does any of that make sense to you?

How simply do i need to spell it out?

I'm telling you what i believe, you have not told me what you believe.

But your dodging, that has not gone unnoticed by the moderator, says a lot.

FACTS are trolling to you.

 

[RBIII]

Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Please explain the logic in Jared Kushner tried to establish a back-channel with Sergei Kisylak in a Russian facility in the U.S.? Jared even admitted that he discussed the possibility of communicating privately with Moscow during the transition and he even suggested going through the Russian embassy. Where is the logic in that? Let's play that out, shall we?

Jared Kushner was denied a top-security clearance by the normal process for granting a security clearance. The process involves the White House’s personnel security office making a determination following an FBI background check. Even Don McGahn and John Kelly believed that Kushner should not get top-security clearance. I'm sure they all had some pretty logical reasons. But why did Donald Trump go over everyone's heads and get Kushner his security clearance. Where is the logic in that?

You are facing a logical question that deserves a logical answer. Please don't run away from it.

I don't run away from anything.

Trump is a billionaire doing billionaire things, as in, he doesn't think normal rules apply to him.

Every now and then, things like rules and the constitution stop him, but where he can, he will try and get passed these rules. Like anyone else with goals and rules get in the way of your goals.

He is acting in that way, if he was on the left i don't think you would have a problem with the things he's doing.


Why were you all not mad when Obama was separating children from there families? Trump was only enforcing the laws already on the books.

But because many of you think every person who doesn't hate Trump is some avid Trump supporter, it makes it very hard to talk about anything because you assume we agree with everything he does, and we don't.

 

[NWRatCon]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Tell that to std, suicide, and depression victims!

The right believes in God, which is a natural anti depressant.

The right believes you shouldn't sleep around like there is no tomorrow, which naturally fights the spread of STDs.

The right believes again in God, which says suicide is a sin, another natural counter to suicide.

So you two have fun in your circle jerk, while the same people you are defending are suffering greatly and don't know why.

I know why.

THIS is, ostensibly (but clearly not), a thread about "logic", or logical arguments. It is appropriate, therefore, to discuss the topic of fallacious argumentation, is it not? In response to my post pointing out the logical fallacy in the last post, you provide another fallacy? This is called "appeal to authority", and you can't get more authoritarian than God. "The right believes again in God, which says suicide is a sin"

My friend, if you can't use fundamental principles of logic, why start a thread that's supposed to be about logic?

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

THIS is, ostensibly (but clearly not), a thread about "logic", or logical arguments. It is appropriate, therefore, to discuss the topic of fallacious argumentation, is it not? In response to my post pointing out the logical fallacy in the last post, you provide another fallacy? This is called "appeal to authority", and you can't get more authoritarian than God. "The right believes again in God, which says suicide is a sin"

The right by and large does believe in God though, and God says suicide is a sin.

A natural cure to the sin of suicide, but if you do not believe in God, then suicide is now on the table.

Doesn't matter if God is real or not, the idea alone is preventing suicide, depression, and the spread of stds.

I've abandoned the OP about 300 posts ago, it was just to get the conversation started, but some of you just can't get past it.

Very strange.

Believing in God is spiritual authoritarianism, you still have free will in reality.

 

[NWRatCon]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

I gave you my reasons for believing this in post #747.

Does any of that make sense to you?

How simply do i need to spell it out?

I'm telling you what i believe, you have not told me what you believe.

But your dodging, that has not gone unnoticed by the moderator, says a lot.

FACTS are trolling to you.

What the duck are you talking about? Your post made no sense whatever. The Moderator was not talking about my posts. I pointed out that your post is illogical. It doesn't matter what you or I "believe" - your assertion is that the arguments are supposed to be based on logic. Yours are not, so your hypothesis remains unproven. Indeed, I haven't found a single post of yours on this thread that isn't riddled with fallacies, and the opposite of the hypothesis. That's been my point all along.

[LOL - spellchecker "corrected" my language]

 

[HumblePi]

Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

I don't run away from anything.

Trump is a billionaire doing billionaire things, as in, he doesn't think normal rules apply to him.

Every now and then, things like rules and the constitution stop him, but where he can, he will try and get passed these rules. Like anyone else with goals and rules get in the way of your goals.

He is acting in that way, if he was on the left i don't think you would have a problem with the things he's doing.


Why were you all not mad when Obama was separating children from there families? Trump was only enforcing the laws already on the books.

But because many of you think every person who doesn't hate Trump is some avid Trump supporter, it makes it very hard to talk about anything because you assume we agree with everything he does, and we don't.

You have given me nothing other than deflective 'whataboutisms' and not logic as you have claimed we, on the left, do not offer you. The Constitution never stopped Trump, not once.

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

What the duck are you talking about? Your post made no sense whatever. The Moderator was not talking about my posts. I pointed out that your post is illogical. It doesn't matter what you or I "believe" - your assertion is that the arguments are supposed to be based on logic[/B]. Yours are not, so your hypothesis remains unproven. Indeed, I haven't found a single post of yours on this thread that isn't riddled with fallacies, and the opposite of the hypothesis.

[LOL - spellchecker "corrected" my language]

STDs continue rapid rise in U.S., setting new record, CDC says



Please explain why you think this is.

And do you think it's a result of left or right social policies?

 

[RBIII]

Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

You have given me nothing other than deflective 'whataboutisms' and not logic as you have claimed we, on the left, do not offer you. The Constitution never stopped Trump, not once.

From all that, you took away that i am only providing 'whataboutisms', when i only provided one whataboutism.

You are being dishonest in your own post.

What about the last part? Do you see what i mean? Does that statement have any merit to you?

 

[NWRatCon]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

STDs continue rapid rise in U.S., setting new record, CDC says

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Please explain why you think this is.

And do you think it's a result of left or right social policies?

It's the friggin' result of biological processes.

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

It's the friggin' result of biological processes.

Yah, true.

How does it occur? Doesn't it take action to get these "processes" started? Who is promoting the actions that start these biological processes?

Left or right?

And were definitely not talking about the action of procreation, these people are not trying to procreate.

 

[HumblePi]

Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

From all that, you took away that i am only providing 'whataboutisms', when i only provided one whataboutism.

You are being dishonest in your own post.

What about the last part? Do you see what i mean? Does that statement have any merit to you?

I asked you a direct, non-vague question, two of them actually. Since you seem interested in logic but apparently you ignore the two questions because it asks you to provide some.

 

[RBIII]

Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

I asked you a direct, non-vague question, two of them actually. Since you seem interested in logic but apparently you ignore the two questions because it asks you to provide some.

I answered your question thoroughly, and you just blew it all off as whataboutisms.

Do you want to re phrase? Because i am trying to answer.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

STDs continue rapid rise in U.S., setting new record, CDC says

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Please explain why you think this is.

And do you think it's a result of left or right social policies?

Right wing policies. States which stamp out adequate sex education, restrict access to contraception and family planning help, and preach dawn to dusk about abstinence-only approaches ARE the TOP of the category in REPORTED STD's.

We already posted this graphic in this same thread, you are ignoring it and that is your problem.

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Right wing policies. States which stamp out adequate sex education, restrict access to contraception and family planning help, and preach dawn to dusk about abstinence-only approaches ARE the TOP of the category in REPORTED STD's.

We already posted this graphic in this same thread, you are ignoring it and that is your problem.

Ever occur to you states have people who believe different things?

I have not seen this graphic and if i missed it my bad.

Now that i see it, its all horrible and further backs up my point that our society is sick overall.

Even the right suffers from leftist policies, because the left has been in control of social policies for a while.

Hopefully we can reverse this.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Even the right suffers from leftist policies, because the left has been in control of social policies for a while.

That oily snake move is not going to fly. The left is not in control of a goddamn thing down South and you know it.
You are being fundamentally dishonest in your slimy effort to refuse to face facts.

Here's your sign: