[W:758:802]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

[AGENT J]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Thanks man!

Like i said always a pleasure to help people, youre welcome!

 

[ThoughtEx.]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Well, i disagree slightly, logic is not hard to prove. If you go to the gym you will be in better shape. That is logic. If you take in more immigrants than your country produces natives, your land won't be your land for long. That is logic.

says the children of immigrants who stole the land in the first place...

real logical there bud. /s

So technically, any children you produce is stealing land from the natives. And their children as well. Following your logic.

Or if we flip it, and say, those immigrants coming in will have children who are natives, because as a child of immigrants you consider yourself native now, the problem goes away.

I'm beginning to think you have no idea what logic is...

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

says the children of immigrants who stole the land in the first place...

real logical there bud. /s

So technically, any children you produce is stealing land from the natives. And their children as well. Following your logic.

Or if we flip it, and say, those immigrants coming in will have children who are natives, because as a child of immigrants you consider yourself native now, the problem goes away.

I'm beginning to think you have no idea what logic is...

I may not have spelled it out properly in the OP.

But we are waaaaaaaay past the OP.

I see what you are saying but what is your point?

Were also waaaaay passed this Native talk.

Can you give a more current example of whatever point you are trying to make?

 

[daeler]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

No no no, don't do that.

You know people are not wearing condoms by and large.

If they were STDs would not be spreading.

Don't do that.

Just going off your quote, you said that giving out birth control promotes unprotected sex.

If you hand out more condoms you will have less unprotected sex. Are you saying this is wrong?

I understand that guys don't like condoms, and some girls feel the same way. But if you make it freely available and offer some education at the same time you will cut down on STDs and unwanted pregnancies.

what are you seeing that says STDs are becoming more of a problem lately? Just curious where you get this information. I was under the impression that it was stagnant at the moment.

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Just going off your quote, you said that giving out birth control promotes unprotected sex.

If you hand out more condoms you will have less unprotected sex. Are you saying this is wrong?

I understand that guys don't like condoms, and some girls feel the same way. But if you make it freely available and offer some education at the same time you will cut down on STDs and unwanted pregnancies.

what are you seeing that says STDs are becoming more of a problem lately? Just curious where you get this information. I was under the impression that it was stagnant at the moment.

Oh i don't know.

The CDC?

STDs continue rapid rise in U.S., setting new record, CDC says

 

[ThoughtEx.]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

I may not have spelled it out properly in the OP.

But we are waaaaaaaay past the OP.

I see what you are saying but what is your point?

Were also waaaaay passed this Native talk.

Can you give a more current example of whatever point you are trying to make?

The point is relevant no matter where the conversation is, if you understood logic, you could see that.

You made a thread about logic, then used a logical fallacy right away, so I pointed it out. And have no intention of reading any further into this trash fire of a thread where you continually throw out logical fallacies as if they are not. It's redundant and stupid. And this explanation isn't even for you, I have no respect for you, it's for everyone else continuing to engage your nonsense. Like they can convince stupid people, they are stupid. Or win over a troll who's convinced everyone he's just stupid and could be brought around with just a little more logic.

You have no power over me, this is the last time I'll likely ever respond to you in anything other than mockery.

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

The point is relevant no matter where the conversation is, if you understood logic, you could see that.

You made a thread about logic, then used a logical fallacy right away, so I pointed it out. And have no intention of reading any further into this trash fire of a thread where you continually throw out logical fallacies as if they are not. It's redundant and stupid. And this explanation isn't even for you, I have no respect for you, it's for everyone else continuing to engage your nonsense. Like they can convince stupid people, they are stupid. Or win over a troll who's convinced everyone he's just stupid and could be brought around with just a little more logic.

You have power over me, this is the last time I'll likely ever respond to you in anything other than mockery.

Thanks for stopping by.

 

[daeler]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Oh i don't know.

The CDC?

STDs continue rapid rise in U.S., setting new record, CDC says

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It is interesting, thanks for the info it is an interesting read.

1. your article says that the numbers could be higher because they are doing more looking than they used to. Look more see more.
2. that education and handing out more condoms may be the best way to combat the issue if it is on the rise.

That being said, you ignored the rest of my comment.

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

It is interesting, thanks for the info it is an interesting read.

1. your article says that the numbers could be higher because they are doing more looking than they used to. Look more see more.
2. that education and handing out more condoms may be the best way to combat the issue if it is on the rise.

That being said, you ignored the rest of my comment.

This article directly addresses your whole comment.

And further reiterates my point that people are not using condoms.

So this is the result of the birth control pill and people who just can't seem to stop ****ing every person that says yes.

This is the result of a Nation that keeps saying sex education is the way, while at the same time not using any of that education.

If we are so sexually educated, why are STDs at an all time high?

Behavior.

 

[daeler]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

This article directly addresses your whole comment.

And further reiterates my point that people are not using condoms.

So this is the result of the birth control pill and people who just can't seem to stop ****ing every person that says yes.

This is the result of a Nation that keeps saying sex education is the way, while at the same time not using any of that education.

If we are so sexually educated, why are STDs at an all time high?

Behavior.

1. They said they "Think" that people are using condoms less. Not that it is a fact.
2. They said the numbers could be inflated because they are testing more often. Not because there is a rise of STDs.

You kind of have to read the whole thing. It is more of an opinion piece.

Education is the way it just needs to be applied properly.

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

1. They said they "Think" that people are using condoms less. Not that it is a fact.
2. They said the numbers could be inflated because they are testing more often. Not because there is a rise of STDs.

You kind of have to read the whole thing. It is more of an opinion piece.

Education is the way it just needs to be applied properly.

Now you are being disingenuous.

If stds are increasing at an alarming rate, obviously condoms aren't being used.

Education ain't gonna fix that no matter how you apply it.

You can apply Education to every surface of "unprotected sex" and it would not change anything, because you are unprotected.

It's in the definition, and people don't care.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Now you are being disingenuous.

If stds are increasing at an alarming rate, obviously condoms aren't being used.

Education ain't gonna fix that no matter how you apply it.

You can apply Education to every surface of "unprotected sex" and it would not change anything, because you are unprotected.

It's in the definition, and people don't care.

your own link says you are wrong . . guess you didnt read it? LMAO

Experts say many factors have contributed to the rapid rise, though the biggest one may be less frequent condom use.

“We’ve seen a tremendous increase in many areas primarily due to the eroding public health infrastructure,” he said. “The lack of funding at the state and local level to really invest in prevention work is not just about medications, it’s about disease investigators who meet with the individual who is infected and talk about their behavior and do contact tracing to try to prevent the future spread.”

Along with declines in funding, there are two other factors driving the skyrocketing STD rates, Harvey said. “There is an extreme lack of awareness about STDs and sexual health," he said, "and doctors are not screening and testing for these diseases and patients don’t know they need to ask to be tested."

Education, access to resources (like stand alone clinics and Planned parenthood) and improving healthcare are factors to improving this issue and have shown to work in the past.

id behavior "a" factor . . of course but its only part of that factor . . education, healthcare and access is a more important issue because it helps curb SOME of the behavior

 

[daeler]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Now you are being disingenuous.

If stds are increasing at an alarming rate, obviously condoms aren't being used.

Education ain't gonna fix that no matter how you apply it.

You can apply Education to every surface of "unprotected sex" and it would not change anything, because you are unprotected.

It's in the definition, and people don't care.

I thought you liked to use logic. Maybe I was mistaken.

If STDs are increasing at an alarming rate lack of use of condoms may be one of the reasons. Might even be the main one. But that does not make it the obvious choice. Drugs and needles, especially with the rise of opium use in the USA, could be a leading factor.

I don't understand how you think Education would be ineffective, Lack of understanding leaves you unprotected. Proper Education gives you protection.

If you don't think education would help, how would you solve the problem?

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

your own link says you are wrong . . guess you didnt read it? LMAO







Education, access to resources (like stand alone clinics and Planned parenthood) and improving healthcare are factors to improving this issue and have shown to work in the past.

id behavior "a" factor . . of course but its only part of that factor . . education, healthcare and access is a more important issue because it helps curb SOME of the behavior

A person does not need anything outside of themselves to control their own behavior.

The left pushes "free love" and birth control, this is the result of that.

The consequences are already here and undeniable.

The right says the opposite, so who has been running things?

The lefts run is about to be over, because reality is about to hit many people smack in the face on many fronts.

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

I thought you liked to use logic. Maybe I was mistaken.

If STDs are increasing at an alarming rate lack of use of condoms may be one of the reasons. Might even be the main one. But that does not make it the obvious choice. Drugs and needles, especially with the rise of opium use in the USA, could be a leading factor.

I don't understand how you think Education would be ineffective, Lack of understanding leaves you unprotected. Proper Education gives you protection.

If you don't think education would help, how would you solve the problem?

Solve the problem by stop ****ing everyone who says yes.

Stop telling people that sexual freedom is some type of virtue.

Stop telling people that their own temporary happiness is more important than a long healthy life.

Stop telling people that it may be something other than their own behavior, drugs with needles is still a behavior.

The answer is obvious but it flies in the face of everything the left has been preaching.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

1.)A person does not need anything outside of themselves to control their own behavior.
2.)The left pushes "free love" and birth control, this is the result of that.
3.)The consequences are already here and undeniable.
4.) The right says the opposite, so who has been running things?
5.) The lefts run is about to be over
6.) because reality is about to hit many people smack in the face on many fronts.

oh boy this is going to be awesome!!

1.) reality and history proves that claim wrong upbringing, religion, society, education and socisla circles all have a factual impact
2.) the left? free love and birth control??? dude serious what country are you from did you just watch a move about wood stock and think its current events LMAO that pure comedy gold! and again by the link YOU provided that has nothing to do with this at all
3.) of course they are your own link makes you claims factually wrong
4.) the right is not a collective and they dont say the opposite becausee what you said about the left isnt even true . . wow . . THIS is why people mock your posts . . you knot nothing about the united states and its politics or what is left and right
5.) What run? The left just won a bunch again last elections
6.) what factual reality, share it with us we;d love to read it!

here comes the dodge train . . chooo choooo!!!!

opcorn2:

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

oh boy this is going to be awesome!!

1.) reality and history proves that claim wrong upbringing, religion, society, education and socisla circles all have a factual impact
2.) the left? free love and birth control??? dude serious what country are you from did you just watch a move about wood stock and think its current events LMAO that pure comedy gold! and again by the link YOU provided that has nothing to do with this at all
3.) of course they are your own link makes you claims factually wrong
4.) the right is not a collective and they dont say the opposite becausee what you said about the left isnt even true . . wow . . THIS is why people mock your posts . . you knot nothing about the united states and its politics or what is left and right
5.) What run? The left just won a bunch again last elections
6.) what factual reality, share it with us we;d love to read it!

here comes the dodge train . . chooo choooo!!!!

opcorn2:

Time will tell, and ill be saying i told you so a lot.

 

[daeler]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Solve the problem by stop ****ing everyone who says yes.

Stop telling people that sexual freedom is some type of virtue.

Stop telling people that their own temporary happiness is more important than a long healthy life.

Stop telling people that it may be something other than their own behavior, drugs with needles is still a behavior.

The answer is obvious but it flies in the face of everything the left has been preaching.

That all sounds like you are saying we should educate people properly.

How would you even go about figuring out how to stop everyone that says yes???? Saying this sounds very illogical.

I don't believe the Left is telling people that sexual freedom (I am guessing you mean having multiple partners) is a virtue.

I have never seen the Left tell anyone that "temporary happiness" is more important than health.

I don't think the Left is telling anyone that they are not to blame for their own behavior

 

[Idiometer]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

They already have these rights, you seem to be claiming they don't have.

We don't even need to invoke religion for this. The left makes every excuse in the world to **** more consequence- free, it will never work, but they can keep trying.

Abortion is legal.

Don't be coy. You argued against legal abortion, so my question stands: Men have complete autonomy over what happens with their own bodies. As a woman, I'm asking you why you don't think that I should have that same autonomy.

Yes, under established constitutional law, I do have that autonomy, yet you argue that I shouldn't. Does that really seem right to you?

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

That all sounds like you are saying we should educate people properly.

How would you even go about figuring out how to stop everyone that says yes???? Saying this sounds very illogical.

I don't believe the Left is telling people that sexual freedom (I am guessing you mean having multiple partners) is a virtue.

I have never seen the Left tell anyone that "temporary happiness" is more important than health.

I don't think the Left is telling anyone that they are not to blame for their own behavior

These are basic concepts that don't require a college degree to understand, however it seems to be the people that study everything but STEM who go to college that don't get it.

Very ironic.

This is education you are supposed to get from your parents, but the parents these days are also lost.

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Don't be coy. You argued against legal abortion, so my question stands: Men have complete autonomy over what happens with their own bodies. As a woman, I'm asking you why you don't think that I should have that same autonomy.

Yes, under established constitutional law, I do have that autonomy, yet you argue that I shouldn't. Does that really seem right to you?

I never argued that.

I don't think abortion is good, but you reserve the right to do so if you want.

I just don't think you should, is that clear?

 

[daeler]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

These are basic concepts that don't require a college degree to understand, however it seems to be the people that study everything but STEM who go to college that don't get it.

Very ironic.

This is education you are supposed to get from your parents, but the parents these days are also lost.

This response doesn't seem to really add anything to the discussion.

Do you have any better solutions? Maybe a little logic to add?

 

[RBIII]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

This response doesn't seem to really add anything to the discussion.

Do you have any better solutions? Maybe a little logic to add?

I'm just getting a little exhausted, trying to say the same thing in 15 different ways.

I think you get it, are you unclear about anything?

 

[daeler]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

I'm just getting a little exhausted, trying to say the same thing in 15 different ways.

I think you get it, are you unclear about anything?

I suppose the only thing I am unclear on is how you can blame the "Left" for pretty much anything you have mentioned in this thread. or how you used Logic to combat their emotion??? that was the purpose on this thread right?

I identify as independent because I see problems on both sides of the political spectrum. Those who back the right say Lefties are emotional and stupid, those on the left say Righties are racist and stupid. I think both sides can be intelligent and have well thought out arguments. But it seem too many want to dismiss what anyone says because they are a Lefty or a Righty.

Looking at most of your attempts at debate on here you use less Logic and more emotion but you accuse the Left of doing that and running away. I am curious as to why you think this way since it seems to be incorrect.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Time will tell, and ill be saying i told you so a lot.

BOOM!!!!!

and there it is the dodge train shows up just as predicted CHOOOO CHOOOOOO!!!!


LMAO another reason why people mock your posts . . you can never back them up or answer any questions. Its obvious you are foreign and your "talking points" come from some extremists website .. . maybe look around there so you can at least have answers to some basic questions. You're welcome!