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[W:363]accepting gay as normal

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roguenuke said:
It is them insisting on equal rights for their similarly situated relationships, commitments, to opposite sex couples.

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Yeah, special treatment for what they do in the bedroom. Rubbing genitals just like a mother and father. Except the mothers and fathers rubbing genitals perpetuate the human species while the gay rubbing produces orgasms, HIV infections and little else. Not really similar.
 
dixon01767 said:
I couldn't care less what they do in the bedroom. It is the gays insisting upon tax breaks and governmental entitlements for what they do in the bedroom.
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That would be no different thatn the straights insisting upon tax breaks and governmental entitlements for what they do in the bedroom.
 
dixon01767 said:
Yeah, special treatment for what they do in the bedroom. Rubbing genitals just like a mother and father. Except the mothers and fathers rubbing genitals perpetuate the human species while the gay rubbing produces orgasms, HIV infections and little else. Not really similar.
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SO according to this logic, if a man is involved in an accident that destroys his penis and testicales such that he can never have kids, then he's not allowed to get married.
 
roguenuke said:
Easy Google search.

hospitals cannot refuse visitation - Google Search

Spouse takes precedent. Legal spouse takes precedent over others especially in states that have no protections for gay rights.

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According to your first link, noone gets preference. All visitors are treated the same regardless of relationship to the patient.

This undermines your argument that gays are being denied rights when they can't marry.
 
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Da Mole said:
Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.

Those, mostly on the liberal left are working hard to normalize gay behavior to the detriment of us all. How did Sodom and Gomorrah work out? The left leaning agenda has progressed so far in the media that almost every prime time show on TV includes some type of gay activity. Pandering politicians have passed laws the favor the LGBTQ crowd making them a separate protected segment of society. I have actually seen a commercial recently that had two gay men swapping spit. You can shove this stuff down my throat but I will not accept it as gospel.

I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.

This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?

Your turn, go for it.
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Kudos to you. It takes a lot of courage to put up a post like this. Most educated adults would be too embarrassed to express this much stupidity on a public forum.
 
Wayne Jr said:
According to your first link, noone gets preference. All visitors are treated the same regardless of relationship to the patient.

This undermines your argument that gays are being denied rights when they can't marry.
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Now. That is a fairly recent change, 2010, around the same time that lawsuits for same sex marriage were winning ground. That is only 2 years prior to same set marriage becoming legal across the country.

And spouses were still being denied medical proxy rights, which come automatically with legal marriage, in states that did not recognize same sex marriage. Spouses are considered a person's closest legal relative, then parents. Unless otherwise designated by legal documentation, the closest relative legally makes the decisions.

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dixon01767 said:
Yeah, special treatment for what they do in the bedroom. Rubbing genitals just like a mother and father. Except the mothers and fathers rubbing genitals perpetuate the human species while the gay rubbing produces orgasms, HIV infections and little else. Not really similar.
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My mother and father, divorced from each other, can rub genitals all they want with others but neither is making anymore children, could not before their divorce. Yet my father has been remarried now for almost 20 years. He and his wife knew going in they weren't having more kids, regardless of any sex they have. My mother cannot have more children if she ever remarried.

Almost all sex opposite sex couples have is for bonding, pleasure, orgasms, not procreation. Most of us take measures in fact to prevent procreation from most sex.

As for HIV, gay women are the least likely group to get HIV. Additionally, HIV can spread through heterosexual sex.

Most of all, marriage is not about sex or procreation. It isn't about what goes on in the bedroom, which is the point of fighting for equal rights. You are still free to base your marriage on what goes on in the bedroom though.

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maquiscat said:
That would be no different thatn the straights insisting upon tax breaks and governmental entitlements for what they do in the bedroom.
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What they do in the bedroom perpetuates the human species. What the gays do increases the incidence of HIV and little else. .
 
maquiscat said:
SO according to this logic, if a man is involved in an accident that destroys his penis and testicales such that he can never have kids, then he's not allowed to get married.
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We don't know which couples will procreate. We only know that all who do are heterosexual couples. And there is no concern for married couples not procreating. The concern is unmarried couples doing so. Never occurs among same sex couples.
 
dixon01767 said:
We don't know which couples will procreate. We only know that all who do are heterosexual couples. And there is no concern for married couples not procreating. The concern is unmarried couples doing so. Never occurs among same sex couples.
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I know my parents will not, cannot procreate. In fact, laws in some states allowing first couples to marry prohibit such marriages if they can procreate or only allow them for couples who show the cannot or very likely cannot procreate. So yes, we do know and there is legal precedent to use procreation as a hindrance for legal marriage.

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dixon01767 said:
What they do in the bedroom perpetuates the human species. What the gays do increases the incidence of HIV and little else. .
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No it doesn't. Most sex does not lead to procreation.

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dixon01767 said:
What they do in the bedroom perpetuates the human species. What the gays do increases the incidence of HIV and little else. .
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Perpetuating the species is not a requirement of legal marriage, otherwise it would be a requirement of legal marriage. Marriage is not a requirement of perpetuating the species, otherwise it would be required to obtain a legal marriage to have sex.

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dixon01767 said:
We don't know which couples will procreate. We only know that all who do are heterosexual couples. And there is no concern for married couples not procreating. The concern is unmarried couples doing so. Never occurs among same sex couples.
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If procreation is the goal.of marriage then we need to only allow those procreating to marry.

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Da Mole said:
Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.

Those, mostly on the liberal left are working hard to normalize gay behavior to the detriment of us all. How did Sodom and Gomorrah work out? The left leaning agenda has progressed so far in the media that almost every prime time show on TV includes some type of gay activity. Pandering politicians have passed laws the favor the LGBTQ crowd making them a separate protected segment of society. I have actually seen a commercial recently that had two gay men swapping spit. You can shove this stuff down my throat but I will not accept it as gospel.

I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.

This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?

Your turn, go for it.
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It's a mental disorder, but they can't help it. It is what it is. I believe they should be treated respectfully, like other people. But normal? no
 
Waddy said:
It's a mental disorder, but they can't help it. It is what it is. I believe they should be treated respectfully, like other people. But normal? no
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You are living in the past.
Forty-four years ago today, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) -- the largest psychiatric organization in the world -- made history by issuing a resolution stating that homosexuality was not a mental illness or sickness. This declaration helped shift public opinion, marking a major milestone for LGBTQ equality.

In 1973, APA Removed Homosexuality From List of Mental Illnesses | Human Rights Campaign
 
Waddy said:
It's a mental disorder, but they can't help it. It is what it is. I believe they should be treated respectfully, like other people. But normal? no
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You are discussing conservatives.....right?
 
Waddy said:
It's a mental disorder, but they can't help it. It is what it is. I believe they should be treated respectfully, like other people. But normal? no
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Define "normal"
 
Waddy said:
heterosexual. You know, the vast majority of human beings.
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You mean like right handed......and caucasians are not normal either since they make up only about 12% of the people in the world.

Perhaps a little more tolerance of the "abnormal" might make the world a better place-as long as being abnormal doesn't impinge on your rights.
 
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