[W:363]accepting gay as normal

[Robertinfremont]

As it did with the Loving decision.

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I voted for the union due to my believing what homosexuals do in their life is their decision and not mine. They whined that at a hospital, they had no power over the patients. I said, that is not fair, A union gives them that power. Bingo, I voted for unions only to later as a then citizen of CA be hauled to court saying, screw you Robert, I am not happy. It was a waste for me to vote for what I believe they said they wanted. It was about one thing and only one thing. Money. End of topic.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Then stop making comments that make you look like you were totally stupid to the Constitution. When you make comments as if upholding the Constitution is undermining voters, then you look totally stupid to the Constitution.

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Knock that crap off. I mean that.
You ASSUMED is all.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Interesting accusation....

Can you prove that?

He proved it for me in his post 2001.

 

[Fledermaus]

He proved it for me in his post 2001.

Hmmm

Post 2001 in its entirety

Then stop making comments that make you look like you were totally stupid to the Constitution. When you make comments as if upholding the Constitution is undermining voters, then you look totally stupid to the Constitution.

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Nothing there about ignoring your posts. Simply that you are ignorant on things Constitutional.

 

[Fledermaus]

Knock that crap off. I mean that.
You ASSUMED is all.

If you said stupid things the adult thing to do is admit it, learn from it and move on.

And you did say stupid things.

Just like the other thread.

 

[maquiscat]

Knock that crap off. I mean that.
You ASSUMED is all.

I don't assume you are stupid to the Constitution. I am only noting that your comments make you look that way.

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[Robertinfremont]

I don't assume you are stupid to the Constitution. I am only noting that your comments make you look that way.

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You lack intelligent curiosity. Want me to elaborate on how your comments make you look? Two can play that game.

 

[Robertinfremont]

If you said stupid things the adult thing to do is admit it, learn from it and move on.

And you did say stupid things.

Just like the other thread.

I will reply to you. YOU lack intelligent curiosity. You are stuck on empty. In your outrageous mind you are superior to most posters. And lecture them as were you the lord almighty returned.

And the other thread was ruined by those of your ilk. It was not about the things dumbsmack kept saying but you agreed with him, at all.

 

[Fledermaus]

I will reply to you. YOU lack intelligent curiosity. You are stuck on empty. In your outrageous mind you are superior to most posters. And lecture them as were you the lord almighty returned.

And the other thread was ruined by those of your ilk. It was not about the things dumbsmack kept saying but you agreed with him, at all.

What I know is that I actually read my history books.

While you continued to be fact slapped mercilessly.

You were wrong about the cause of the war. Wrong about the time line. Wrong about the defenses of Fort Sumter. Wrong about Confederate capabilities. Wrong about the first shots fired. Wrong about Black troops. Wrong about their victories.

Should I go on?

In time you became petulant and continued to post inflammatory claims already debunked.

He you are once again following the same track.

 

[maquiscat]

He proved it for me in his post 2001.

Interesting. He asked you to prove it prior to post 2001 being posted. Maybe try again.

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[maquiscat]

You lack intelligent curiosity. Want me to elaborate on how your comments make you look? Two can play that game.

You think I care about that aspect? Have you seen me demanding that you stop asking questions or start posting a certain way? Nope. Now why don't we get back to the topic at hand?

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[maquiscat]

I voted for the union due to my believing what homosexuals do in their life is their decision and not mine. They whined that at a hospital, they had no power over the patients. I said, that is not fair, A union gives them that power. Bingo, I voted for unions only to later as a then citizen of CA be hauled to court saying, screw you Robert, I am not happy. It was a waste for me to vote for what I believe they said they wanted. It was about one thing and only one thing. Money. End of topic.

Actually this explains a lot. You failed to listen to all they had to say. You latched on to only one right of their being violated and thought they should be happy with just that.

BTW you don't get to declare end of topic. You can however withdraw if you don't want to continue. No one is making you stay.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Actually this explains a lot. You failed to listen to all they had to say. You latched on to only one right of their being violated and thought they should be happy with just that.

BTW you don't get to declare end of topic. You can however withdraw if you don't want to continue. No one is making you stay.

YOU were complaining I abandoned this topic. I was discussing other interesting topics on other threads.

I summarized why I supported homosexuals to get all the gains they wanted. They said nothing to me about not wanting the union that I as well as millions of other Californians voted for them to have. So, Democrats do not appreciate us adding rights. That beats all.

 

[Robertinfremont]

You think I care about that aspect? Have you seen me demanding that you stop asking questions or start posting a certain way? Nope. Now why don't we get back to the topic at hand?

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Which happens to be why I and millions of CA people voted for homosexuals to gain alleged rights. And for that we are the subject of ridicule. Gee thanks.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Interesting. He asked you to prove it prior to post 2001 being posted. Maybe try again.

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What for? Have you caught him ever agreeing with me? So when a person is so dogged not to agree, what for? i do not hang around merely to argue.

 

[Robertinfremont]

What I know is that I actually read my history books.

While you continued to be fact slapped mercilessly.

You were wrong about the cause of the war. Wrong about the time line. Wrong about the defenses of Fort Sumter. Wrong about Confederate capabilities. Wrong about the first shots fired. Wrong about Black troops. Wrong about their victories.

Should I go on?

In time you became petulant and continued to post inflammatory claims already debunked.

He you are once again following the same track.

This is why he deserves only my scorn and no respect Muskrat. (not precise but I think you know who that is)

 

[maquiscat]

I summarized why I supported homosexuals to get all the gains they wanted.

Here is the fail. From the beginning homosexuals and bisexuals have wanted all the same rights as heterosexual couples. You din't give them all the wanted. You just tossed a few crumbs and said that should be enough. If you wanted to give them all they asked for then you should have actually voted for something that did it, and fought against whatever was just a token move. But no you gave in to the token move. And then want to whine that you voted for all, when the facts show that you didn't. So either you didn't want them to have all that asked for or you were to lazy to check and see if what you voted for actually did what you thought it did. What is not appriciated is that you claimed to have given 10 things and really only gave 1 or 2. It's the equivilant of removing the handcuff and then wondering why they are complaining they are still in the cell, when you claimed you were giving them their freedom.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Here is the fail. From the beginning homosexuals and bisexuals have wanted all the same rights as heterosexual couples. You din't give them all the wanted. You just tossed a few crumbs and said that should be enough. If you wanted to give them all they asked for then you should have actually voted for something that did it, and fought against whatever was just a token move. But no you gave in to the token move. And then want to whine that you voted for all, when the facts show that you didn't. So either you didn't want them to have all that asked for or you were to lazy to check and see if what you voted for actually did what you thought it did. What is not appriciated is that you claimed to have given 10 things and really only gave 1 or 2. It's the equivilant of removing the handcuff and then wondering why they are complaining they are still in the cell, when you claimed you were giving them their freedom.

Rights to do what? When they asked, we listened. we gave them the legal status to accomplish all they wanted.

I will not stand to be abused over my past vote. I said I regret it. So now can you drop it?

Here is why I hate this topic so damned much. It never never slows doen nor ends.

Can we simply agree not to keep doing this dog and pony show?

I understand how if I say the Sun is going to rise, some wise ass Democrat gets into my face and says how the hell do you know it will rise.

i have argued this point on various forums, since the 1980s. Can you not see I am sick of this topic?

When I bailed out, some kept acting like I flew off but I enjoy many topics. This is only one of a hundred topics.

 

[Fledermaus]

This is why he deserves only my scorn and no respect Muskrat. (not precise but I think you know who that is)

And your post proves my point.

 

[Fledermaus]

Rights to do what? When they asked, we listened. we gave them the legal status to accomplish all they wanted.

I will not stand to be abused over my past vote. I said I regret it. So now can you drop it?

Here is why I hate this topic so damned much. It never never slows doen nor ends.

Can we simply agree not to keep doing this dog and pony show?

I understand how if I say the Sun is going to rise, some wise ass Democrat gets into my face and says how the hell do you know it will rise.

i have argued this point on various forums, since the 1980s. Can you not see I am sick of this topic?

When I bailed out, some kept acting like I flew off but I enjoy many topics. This is only one of a hundred topics.

Easy ending.

Equal rights.

 

[maquiscat]

Rights to do what? When they asked, we listened. we gave them the legal status to accomplish all they wanted.

They asked for all the same legal marriage rights and benefits. Did you give them ALL the same legal rights and benefits? Ignore any label/name issues for the moment.

So now can you drop it?

Can we simply agree not to keep doing this dog and pony show?

Can you not see I am sick of this topic?

You are in control. If you don't post something that we find response worthy, Then all we will have are the other posters. You are free to step away. Nothing is holding you here, unless you're hiding a masochistic streak. I know when I get tired of a subject I just step away. See that second line in my signatire block? Feel free to use that principle. I can't speak for others, but I certainly don't assume concession when someone no longer participates in a thread.

Here is why I hate this topic so damned much. It never never slows doen nor ends.

Nor should the fight for equal rights ever end. especially when there are people, on this very site yet alone out in the rest of the world, who are fighting to remove those rights from people.

 

[roguenuke]

I voted for the union due to my believing what homosexuals do in their life is their decision and not mine. They whined that at a hospital, they had no power over the patients. I said, that is not fair, A union gives them that power. Bingo, I voted for unions only to later as a then citizen of CA be hauled to court saying, screw you Robert, I am not happy. It was a waste for me to vote for what I believe they said they wanted. It was about one thing and only one thing. Money. End of topic.

Then there would be no issue with them getting married.

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[roguenuke]

Which happens to be why I and millions of CA people voted for homosexuals to gain alleged rights. And for that we are the subject of ridicule. Gee thanks.

And millions voted against them having full, equal marriages rather than just a few equal rights and privileges.

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[roguenuke]

Rights to do what? When they asked, we listened. we gave them the legal status to accomplish all they wanted.

I will not stand to be abused over my past vote. I said I regret it. So now can you drop it?

Here is why I hate this topic so damned much. It never never slows doen nor ends.

Can we simply agree not to keep doing this dog and pony show?

I understand how if I say the Sun is going to rise, some wise ass Democrat gets into my face and says how the hell do you know it will rise.

i have argued this point on various forums, since the 1980s. Can you not see I am sick of this topic?

When I bailed out, some kept acting like I flew off but I enjoy many topics. This is only one of a hundred topics.

Right to get married. Only marriage comes with full recognition of all rights, privileges, benefits, and is recognized by other states. While it would still take further court cases and changes to laws to have given that fully, only marriage would do it. Nothing else was ever proposed in any sort of bill federally.

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[Wayne Jr]

Right to get married. Only marriage comes with full recognition of all rights, privileges, benefits, and is recognized by other states. While it would still take further court cases and changes to laws to have given that fully, only marriage would do it. Nothing else was ever proposed in any sort of bill federally.

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I was married once, what are all these 'rights'?