[W:257] Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

[Wayne Jr]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

Some people believe evolution proves humans got their homosexual genes from bonobos. Homosexuality is not inherited, it is learned.

Homosexuality is not inherited or learned. In fact, there is little research on the topic at all for you to make any claim in any direction. So far all we know is that there is a loose correlation between certain hormones and homosexuality, but what we can identify is very limited.

And none of it matters anyway since our society should accommodate anyone not harming another.

 

[lurchadams]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

Some people believe evolution proves humans got their homosexual genes from bonobos. Homosexuality is not inherited, it is learned.

It is neither.

 

[CLAX1911]

I don’t mind trying to answer, not that I am an expert. But I must note it’s a bit late to be asking.

Fulfillment means what the standard colloquial definition has always meant.

ful·fill
fo͝olˈfil/Submit
verb
1.
bring to completion or reality; achieve or realize (something desired, promised, or predicted).
"he wouldn't be able to fulfill his ambition to visit Naples"
synonyms:achieve, attain, realize, actualize, make happen, succeed in, bring to completion, bring to fruition, satisfy
"he fulfilled his ambition to travel the world"
2.
carry out (a task, duty, or role) as required, pledged, or expected.
"some officials were dismissed because they could not fulfill their duties"
synonyms:carry out, perform, accomplish, execute, do, discharge, conduct;

I understand it doesn’t make sense. It happens, no shame in not understanding. That comes from pointing the finger. . Nothing changed. Your argument is founded on a false premise.

I'm sorry it really doesn't make sense. Walls are rules that are to be followed they're never carried out or brought to completion that makes no sense.

Yes things changed. Christians do not follow Leviticus. That is different from the way it was before Christ.

 

[DebateChallenge]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

What I hear you saying is that you wouldn't mind being gay or bi if the Bible said it was OK. Is that correct? It's the Bible that is holding you back from acting on your same sex desires.

Nope because aside from the Bible, I just don't like other men. I have no same sex desires to be held back from.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

People got excuses. I get it.

no it's not an excuse what you're saying is bull****. I don't buy that it doesn't make sense.

The law still applies.

okay explain how they still apply?

Grace is hard to accept.

this has nothing to do with what I stated if they do not keep kosher Christians do not follow the law they don't have to follow the law because Christ changed it.

Like I said. Grace is hard to accept. I’ve never claimed to have any magic, and special knowledge.

you did the claim that I didn't understand the Bible this is starting to look like this mental gymnastics that always comes with this nonsense. A lot of people really can't handle that the Bible contradicts itself.

Continuing to repeat something that is false does not make it true.

well I'm going to repeat it until you giving me a satisfactory explanation to why it is false.

To this point you haven't.

No it doesn’t support your point.

just making random ass claims that you don't support is not at all an argument.

Just because the number on the speed limit sign changed doesn’t mean the Law has changed.

so the gospels by your definition here is just some Vandal changing the speed limit sign?

 

[DebateChallenge]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

I am heterosexual.. and I never made a choice.. I just like girls.. no choice for me...

Same with me.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

Some people believe evolution proves humans got their homosexual genes from bonobos.

no that's not even close to what evolution is. Bonobo chimps are an animal that exists today we couldn't have evolved from something that exists today we and the bonobo chimps might have a similar evolutionary ancestor.

Homosexuality is not inherited, it is learned.

I make no claims about it one way or the other because I don't know. But if it's learned Behavior psychologists and behavioral scientists have not have found a way to unlearn it. So on what basis do you make the claim that it's learned?

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

Delete

 

[Ikari]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

Some Christians refer to the bible as the word of god - are they mistaken?

Yes, it was ghost written at best.

 

[Daisy]

I don’t mind trying to answer, not that I am an expert. But I must note it’s a bit late to be asking.

Fulfillment means what the standard colloquial definition has always meant.

ful·fill
fo͝olˈfil/Submit
verb
1.
bring to completion or reality; achieve or realize (something desired, promised, or predicted).
"he wouldn't be able to fulfill his ambition to visit Naples"
synonyms:achieve, attain, realize, actualize, make happen, succeed in, bring to completion, bring to fruition, satisfy
"he fulfilled his ambition to travel the world"
2.
carry out (a task, duty, or role) as required, pledged, or expected.
"some officials were dismissed because they could not fulfill their duties"
synonyms:carry out, perform, accomplish, execute, do, discharge, conduct;

I understand it doesn’t make sense. It happens, no shame in not understanding. That comes from pointing the finger. . Nothing changed. Your argument is founded on a false premise.

And what happens when something is fulfilled, a contract for instance, which is what the Law Covenant was...the requirements are met and the contract is over...finished...fulfilled....the end...

 

[LowDown]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

People in the olden days also practiced slavery. To me the argument that "people used to do ____" does not hold water.

Does not hold water for what? It's clearly relevant to the question of attitudes toward homosexuals in St. Paul's time. What did he mean when he said the "effeminate" would not enter the Kingdom of Heaven? That's the question. I'm pretty sure he wasn't referring to warriors.

 

[marke]

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Does it really matter if homosexuality is inherited or learned? Homosexuals will tell you from first hand experience they are born gay.Do you have any personal experiences with homosexuality first hand that will dispute what gays themselves say about their homosexuality?

God says fools reject God.
What do fools know about homosexuality?

 

[marke]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

Homosexuality is not inherited or learned. In fact, there is little research on the topic at all for you to make any claim in any direction. So far all we know is that there is a loose correlation between certain hormones and homosexuality, but what we can identify is very limited.

And none of it matters anyway since our society should accommodate anyone not harming another.

Society should not wink at sin and sodomy is sin.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

God says fools reject God.
What do fools know about homosexuality?

Insults are all you have. What about some proof of the existence of this god?

 

[zyzygy]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

Society should not wink at sin and sodomy is sin.

Does society wink at greed?

 

[marke]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

no that's not even close to what evolution is. Bonobo chimps are an animal that exists today we couldn't have evolved from something that exists today we and the bonobo chimps might have a similar evolutionary ancestor.


I make no claims about it one way or the other because I don't know. But if it's learned Behavior psychologists and behavioral scientists have not have found a way to unlearn it. So on what basis do you make the claim that it's learned?

One thing that can always be counted on from evolutionists is that they don't know what they are thinking.

 

[it's just me]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

The bible is such a badly written book that anyone can use it to justify shooting abortion doctors or giving to charity or even calling things they do not like a sin.

The things that are sins are spelled out. Show me the part where you are allowed to shoot abortion doctors.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

One thing that can always be counted on from evolutionists is that they don't know what they are thinking.

Please try and be serious.

 

[soylentgreen]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

I'd like to see that scripture...SMH...

I can do better than that. i can show you what i actually stated. Which is that the book is so badly written that a christian can use it to kill .
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/28/scott-roeder-abortion-doctor-killer

A born-again Christian who believes abortion is a sin failed yesterday to *convince a judge that he need not stand trial for murder after he admitted shooting dead an *abortion doctor.

As i have said it is not what is written in the book. It is how the book can be used to justify all sorts of horrible actions.

That is just an extreme case of how the bible can be abused in a fashion. Another would be that christians use it to call homosexuality a sin and then blame god for that so called fact instead of owning up to the fact that like the killer they are merely reading what they want into the bible.

 

[soylentgreen]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

There is nothing in the Bible against mixed race marriages...not true of homosexuality, which is what I adhere to...God's Word will never die out...

There is nothing in the bible about being against gay marriages either.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

One thing that can always be counted on from evolutionists is that they don't know what they are thinking.

Again if homosexuality is a learned behavior, why is it that nobody has figured out how to unlearn it?

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

Please try and be serious.

Well he completely Dodged the question because he can't answer it.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

Hello there, I just spoke to God this morning, and He has a message for all you thumpers on the subject of homosexuality:

"Do not question my handiwork, and get your self-righteous nose out of the bedroom of my gay children. It's none of your Me-damned business."

 

[soylentgreen]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

No...I dont. God does. Take it up with Him.

You can keep repeating that nonsense excuse all you like. If all christians thought the same as you then you might have a point. But they do not in fact quite the opposite. There are many varied thoughts ranging from kill gays to let them marry. So it is not god that needs to be brought into the discussion but instead we need to take a good look at your personal prejudices.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Re: Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

Again if homosexuality is a learned behavior, why is it that nobody has figured out how to unlearn it?

That's the other thing they always overlook: if homosexuality is learned behavior, there would be no homosexuals, since there couldn't have been anyone there to teach the first one.