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[W:212,493] Another MAGA hat attack, this time 4 arrested

RedAkston said:
It's one thing to be offended, it's something else entirely to steal another person's property or assault them because they're offended. If you aren't able to make this distinction then you have no business being a part of this discussion.
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Trump supporters invite such negative reaction with their own behavior and choices. If you make yourself a target, people will shoot at it.
 
haymarket said:
No Trump = no MAGA hats = no incident.
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You realize you're using the same arguments that almost every fascist group throughout history has used right? If group A didn't exist we wouldn't need to get violent!
 
ajn678 said:
You realize you're using the same arguments that almost every fascist group throughout history has used right? If group A didn't exist we wouldn't need to get violent!
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Is my reasoning incorrect?

I do not remember fans of President Eisenhower being attacked in this manner.
I do not remember fans of President Kennedy being attacked in this manner.
I do not remember fans of President Carter being attacked in this manner.
I do not remember fans of President Ford being attacked in this manner.
I do not remember fans of President Reagan being attacked in this manner.
I do not remember fans of President Clinton being attacked in this manner.
I do not remember fans of President Bush I and II being attacked in this manner.
I do not remember fans of Presidents other than Trump getting this type of reception.

This is case where it is the singer and not the song.
 
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haymarket said:
Is my reasoning incorrect?
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Your reasoning is hypothetical nonsense. Do you actually believe that if Trump wasn't President, these completely rational(lol) people wouldn't be finding another reason to get so offended that they attack people over their choice of hats?
 
haymarket said:
Trump supporters invite such negative reaction with their own behavior and choices. If you make yourself a target, people will shoot at it.
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Holy crap!. :lamo
 
haymarket said:
Your opinion of those people is irrelevant. They are offended and have a right to be offended.
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They have a right to be offended. What they don't have is the right to assault someone because they're offended.

I believe that's today's topic.
 
ajn678 said:
Your reasoning is hypothetical nonsense. Do you actually believe that if Trump wasn't President, these completely rational(lol) people wouldn't be finding another reason to get so offended that they attack people over their choice of hats?
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Lefties are going to lefty no matter what. They search out reasons to protest. I know a looney lefty that bought riot gear...I said what for..he said for when I protest I need protection. I said what are you protesting..he said nothin yet.
 
haymarket said:
No Trump = no MAGA hats = no incident.
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i never thought I'd see the day in this country that the simple wearing a hat stating Make America Great Again would be grounds for that statement. Or for physical assault justification.

Fishking is correct. It's not about the hat. It's about wacko leftists.
 
Fishking said:
I see you desperately trying to make a comparison point by going all the way over to mass shooters in an attempt to validate this behavior. When you have to go that far to make a comparison, you've lost already.
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There is no comparison. For **** sake....shooting up a church is not only not in the ballpark of what these girls did, but its not even the same ****ing game being played....and here you are looking at it all backwards. You are saying that in order to make the comparison, idiotmeter had to go that far to the right to find something comparable. That isn't the point he was making at all.....he was pointing to the overwhelming hypocrisy of trying to complain about someone losing a hat vs the idea of someone losing thier life when unstable members of the right misunderstand or outright take to heart the words of the President and those he tweeted about recently.

Only someone suffering from cranial-rectal inversion would be incapable of seeing that.
 
ajn678 said:
Your reasoning is hypothetical nonsense. Do you actually believe that if Trump wasn't President, these completely rational(lol) people wouldn't be finding another reason to get so offended that they attack people over their choice of hats?
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Since the source of their angers is Trump - NO - if Trump were not president than this incident would not have occurred and there is no reason to think these people would hurt others.
 
jimbo said:
They have a right to be offended. What they don't have is the right to assault someone because they're offended.

I believe that's today's topic.
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Welcome to life in the big city.
 
haymarket said:
Since the source of their angers is Trump - NO - if Trump were not president than this incident would not have occurred and there is no reason to think these people would hurt others.
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I find it quite sad that you would justify assault or theft or property against a citizen, both crimes, on someone that has absolutely nothing to do with this. This is the most ass backwards way of thinking I've seen in quite some time. Now had they directed their theft of property or assault at Trump himself, then you'd have one iota of the semblance of a feeble attempt at rational thought, but that isn't what happened here and there is no justification for these actions whatsoever.
 
RedAkston said:
Actually I am. I'm also a huge supporter of the right to free speech. The slogan on the hat you posted doesn't nor should it offend me. I'm not a mentally unstable person who is so pathetically weak that words on a hat could send me off the deep end.
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It is not necessarily the words on the hat but the symbolism that it represents. Someone wearing that hat supports Trump and anyone that supports Trump has a problem with either the truth or with what they believe in.

It is as simple as that.

The hat doesn't bother me but the person wearing the hat would not be someone I would want to associate with or even have a conversation.
 
You have to follow the link to its beginning to understand. Evidently, you didn't
 
Luckyone said:
It is not necessarily the words on the hat but the symbolism that it represents. Someone wearing that hat supports Trump and anyone that supports Trump has a problem with either the truth or with what they believe in.

It is as simple as that.

The hat doesn't bother me but the person wearing the hat would not be someone I would want to associate with or even have a conversation.
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The left has become all about symbolism. Nothing about realism.

It's also the reason that many have come to believe that it's no longer possible to hold an intelligent conversation with any liberal. Compromise is a joke.
 
jimbo said:
The left has become all about symbolism. Nothing about realism.

It's also the reason that many have come to believe that it's no longer possible to hold an intelligent conversation with any liberal. Compromise is a joke.
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It's hilarious, cuz this is literally how we see the right-wingers. The only difference is we have more facts and more of reality on our side.
 
nekrodev said:
It's hilarious, cuz this is literally how we see the right-wingers. The only difference is we have more facts and more of reality on our side.
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And the fact that you think that is true is hilarious!
 
jimbo said:
The left has become all about symbolism. Nothing about realism.

It's also the reason that many have come to believe that it's no longer possible to hold an intelligent conversation with any liberal. Compromise is a joke.
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Seriously?

Lets consider the fact that taking the Presidents own words on a video and attempting to hold him accountable for those words is now considered fake news. Its not liberals who made that the current state of the union.

You are right about compromise being a joke though.....how do you compromise with someone who isn't even willing to acknowledge facts for what they are?
 
jimbo said:
The left has become all about symbolism. Nothing about realism.

It's also the reason that many have come to believe that it's no longer possible to hold an intelligent conversation with any liberal. Compromise is a joke.
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My gawd, you took the words right out of my mouth. You are incredible. The only tiny mistake you made is you need to replace the word liberal with Trump supporter and you will have it just right.

Here is a picture of a Trump supporter that explains it better.

TrumpSupporters.webp
 
Luckyone said:
My gawd, you took the words right out of my mouth. You are incredible. The only tiny mistake you made is you need to replace the word liberal with Trump supporter and you will have it just right.

Here is a picture of a Trump supporter that explains it better.

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Brilliant, That's the best you can do?

But you make my point.
 
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