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[Deuce]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

What in this indictment shows collusion with a hostile foreign power?

This indictment is irrelevant to the question. His rant is about crimes occurring before the election. He seems to believe it doesn’t matter because the crimes happened before the election.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

Yeah, colluding with a hostile foreign government to influence an American election does typically happen before said election. Why do you keep bringing this up?

Propaganda seems to bother you but the reality is even Obama's Administration said that the Russian issue didn't change the election results. Why is this so major to you and how does it affect you? We interfere with elections all over the world but because the outcome doesn't affect you it doesn't bother you. Russia's so called influence didn't change your mind or mine so how do you know it changed anyone else's?

 

[Objective Voice]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

I agree with you. I was just exchanging sardonic wise guy sarcastic quips with another poster.

Oh...well then, can you throw in a few sarcastic emoji's here and there...you know...just ta' help a brutha know the diff? :mrgreen:

 

[Deuce]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

Propaganda seems to bother you but the reality is even Obama's Administration said that the Russian issue didn't change the election results. Why is this so major to you and how does it affect you? We interfere with elections all over the world but because the outcome doesn't affect you it doesn't bother you. Russia's so called influence didn't change your mind or mine so how do you know it changed anyone else's?

1) it doesn’t matter whether it changed the election results, it’s still a crime that you want to ignore.
2) it makes the president of the goddamned United States subject to blackmail by a hostile foreign government.

How dumb are you going to pretend to be?

 

[Fletch]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

This indictment is irrelevant to the question. His rant is about crimes occurring before the election. He seems to believe it doesn’t matter because the crimes happened before the election.

Im asking you. What in this indictment shows collusion with a hostile foreign power?

 

[Conservative]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

Whaaay, whaaay, whaaay...

Look, nobody's saying subvert the Constitution here should Trump get impeached and removed from office. That's an idea of your own making. The normal line of succession would follow and Pence would sit in the WH. All I'm saying is he'd be rendered "combat ineffective" and you know it! That's why you keep going on this little rants.

People did vote for Trump for change same as they did for Obama. Only in this case, the change was a smoke screen. Some thought they were voting to be rid of establishment Republicans masquerading as conservatives. Others thought they were voting for someone who would look after their interests and that such benefits would flow from the top down. Others thought they were voting for someone who would save them from cultural collapse. Those would be the racist and the bigots that pretty much comprise Trump's base who firmly believe Trump would "take their country back" and "make America great again" for them. How's all of that hopey-changey thing working out for ya'? Is it exactly as you'd hope it would be?

Are benefits from the top flowing to those at the bottom? (Trickle-down economics...again)

Are the RINO/non-conservative/establishment Republicans out office particularly in the Senate?

Has the country turned back the clock to that Ozzie and Harriet era or beyond many in the Republican Party hold dear (some at the party base, others among the old guard)?

If this is the kind of country you want - one lead by liars, cheats and charlatans then I want no part of it. You keep talking about things mostly from an economic standpoint. I'm talking about the concept our Founding Fathers dreamed of...that "more perfect union" not a reunion of a past we clearly left behind. So, maybe you should rethink what country you see today and desire for all of tomorrow because clearly we don't see the same thing even if we were looking out from the same window. Seems to me somebody's side of the window is dirty. :laughat:=====>:2usflag:=====>:rwbelepha

You put so little faith in the American people believing that pocketbook issues don't matter which is why you shy away from them. You obviously don't like America first or the results being generated which is why you continue on the Russian issue which to me is a non issue. You believe that Pence will be a lame duck to be replaced by whom? Your party is made up for radical socialists who will continually be rejected by the majority in this country. The American people will always vote their pocketbooks in Presidential election which is why Hillary lost in 2016 and a Republican will win in 2020 because the results warrant it

For some reason you believe that someone else should pay for your personal responsibility issues and that this isn't a country where there is movement from the bottom upwards. Trillions of dollars have been spent by social engineering by bureaucrats who have done nothing but create dependence, career jobs, and debt none of which bother you but should

you don't have a lot of credibility on this issue so keep spouting the anti Trump, anti private sector, pro class envy and warfare rhetoric and see how that works out for you

I want a gov't that generates the results we are seeing today, you want one that promotes class warfare and a massive central govt. You see in your world you cannot get what you want in your own state so you want a jurist or a bureaucrat to give it to you. Not sure how you were raised but see that apparently your parents taught you that someone else should pay for your personal responsibility issues and spending in the name of compassion is all that matters.

The Trump results are being ignored as you continue to ignore civics and ignore the official data which doesn't give you a lot of credibility

 

[Conservative]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

Why don’t you explain what part of the difference is relevant here?

You don’t get to shove your religion onto me via the law, deal with jt

My post was to Mach who talked about separation of church and state. I don't shove my religion on anyone as you will have to face that some day in the future. Religion sure bothers people like you which leads me to believe there is more to it than you are willing to admit.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

1) it doesn’t matter whether it changed the election results, it’s still a crime that you want to ignore.
2) it makes the president of the goddamned United States subject to blackmail by a hostile foreign government.

How dumb are you going to pretend to be?

interesting how none of the indictments have anything to do with collusion

 

[Conservative]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

This indictment is irrelevant to the question. His rant is about crimes occurring before the election. He seems to believe it doesn’t matter because the crimes happened before the election.

No, sorry it isn't irrelevant, what indictment issued has anything to do with collusion?

 

[markjs]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

interesting how none of the indictments have anything to do with collusion

Being as Wikileaks is considered by the United States to be a non national hostile foreign intelligence service is has EVERYTHING to do with collusion and conspiracy. Amazing mental gymnastics on your part at ignoring the facts.:roll:

 

[Xelor]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

I suppose it's possible Bannon is the official, it strains credulity because on July 22, 2016, Bannon wasn't part of the Trump campaign. It's hard to be, on July 22, 2016, a "senior campaign official" when one isn't a campaign official at all on that date.

Edit:
Oh, NM. You seem to be referring to a different "senior campaign official" remark from the indictment than I had in mind. My bad.

 

[Deuce]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

interesting how none of the indictments have anything to do with collusion

Interesting dodge.

Explain to the nice people here why you think committing a crime is ok if it happened before the election, and why colluding with Russia should be ignored if it didn’t change the outcome.

 

[NeverTrump]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

Well that guy repeatedly tells us we "blindly hate Trump". He seems to believe that EVERYONE who sees Trump accurately loves him and any dislike of Trump is based whollly in our imaginations as there is no valid reason to dislike Trump. So in his deluded fantasy 70% of 'murica is bound up in the MSN's spell and totally unfairly hate Trump. Now let's all grab our guns and ammo, retreat to our safe spaces and have a good cry over the unfair MSN and the bully librul hoardes!:roll::2rofll:

He prolly needs a lil nappy!

The funny thing is only about 10-15% of the nevertrumpers actually watch the MSM, and none as much as Trump...

 

[Gina]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

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[Conservative]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

Interesting dodge.

Explain to the nice people here why you think committing a crime is ok if it happened before the election, and why colluding with Russia should be ignored if it didn’t change the outcome.

What crime?? The issue is attacks on Trump, no one ever said committing a crime was acceptable only that none of the indictments have anything to do with collusion

 

[upsideguy]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

Keep drumming up that leftwing hatred and promotion of impeachment charges against Trump, then what? You want to get rid of Trump and replace him with Pence? Maybe then you will stop the 24/7 Trump bashing and actually recognize the incredible economic results generated over the past two years instead of ignoring them like you are doing now. Hatred has a blinding influence on far too many and gives people the ability to divert from the issues that are truly important, economic and national security.

Doubt seriously any of you have thought beyond the replacement of Trump as you are all 24/7 anti Trump zealots with a bad case of TDS. Typical liberalism, participate in the politics of personal destruction against Reagan, GHW Bush, GW Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney and now Donald Trump only to finally recognize their contributions when out of office. Sad that so many people like you and others here have so much hatred against an individual who has done nothing to harm you, your family, or the country. Charges, rumors, speculation will never trump the actual foundation upon which our legal system was built, innocent until proven guilty

How dare you diminish the good names of Reagan, Bush, Romney and McCain by in any way equating them with Trump.

Although Republicans, the aforementioned were all great American's who consistently sought what they believed was right for the country, consistently putting America before their personal interests. While I disagreed vehemently with many of their policies, I never lost a night's sleep worried about where America was headed (well maybe a little under Bush Jr and Cheney in 2003). I always viewed these men as men of integrity.

In stark contrast, Trump seems to be a human being that is almost devoid any good qualities. He consistently puts his own personal interests ahead of America and the American people. He consistently shows selfishness and self-servitude in almost every aspect of his personal and professional life. He is a wretched human being.

I am sorry that you have become blinded by illusive luster of the golden calf. While its cute that you credit Trump for what you believe to be a strong economy (which few people benefit from, BTW), it does not wash away his obvious sins of corruption. He is a woefully corrupt individual, the depth and breadth of which we see with each indictment and each new investigation (17 of them by the way). If you can't see it, please gather up sufficient sense of reality to understand why others do and a deeply troubled by it. Believe it or not, we progressives love this country as much as any conservative. It pains us to see it defiled by this travesty of a human being, just as it pains us to see the scales on the eyes of conservatives.

No sir, the TDS to which you refer, the irrationality, is with you that justifies that as 'ok' when most of the country finds it repugnant.

So go forth old man, and diminish your fellow Republican and fellow American no more. Join us in defense of our great democracy from the domestic threat that resides a 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

How dare you diminish the good names of Reagan, Bush, Romney and McCain by in any way equating them with Trump.

Although Republicans, the aforementioned were all great American's who consistently sought what they believed was right for the country, consistently putting America before their personal interests. While I disagreed vehemently with many of their policies, I never lost a night's sleep worried about where America was headed (well maybe a little under Bush Jr and Cheney in 2003). I always viewed these men as men of integrity.

In stark contrast, Trump seems to be a human being that is almost devoid any good qualities. He consistently puts his own personal interests ahead of America and the American people. He consistently shows selfishness and self-servitude in almost every aspect of his personal and professional life. He is a wretched human being.

I am sorry that you have become blinded by illusive luster of the golden calf. While its cute that you credit Trump for what you believe to be a strong economy (which few people benefit from, BTW), it does not wash away his obvious sins of corruption. He is a woefully corrupt individual, the depth and breadth of which we see with each indictment and each new investigation (17 of them by the way). If you can't see it, please gather up sufficient sense of reality to understand why others do and a deeply troubled by it. Believe it or not, we progressives love this country as much as any conservative. It pains us to see it defiled by this travesty of a human being, just as it pains us to see the scales on the eyes of conservatives.

No sir, the TDS to which you refer, the irrationality, is with you that justifies that as 'ok' when most of the country finds it repugnant.

So go forth old man, and diminish your fellow Republican and fellow American no more. Join us in defense of our great democracy from the domestic threat that resides a 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Trump's results speak for themselves, the best two year results in U.S. History but all you can focus on is rhetoric. This thread is about steve bannon and all you can do is promote hatred for Trump. Truly sad that you cannot see the results and have to focus on rhetoric and appearance. This is the problem in this country today, totally divided and if you believe Impeachment is going to help resolve that divide you are nuts. Tell me exactly what indictment and what this thread topic has to do with Trump?

 

[haymarket]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

Oh...well then, can you throw in a few sarcastic emoji's here and there...you know...just ta' help a brutha know the diff? :mrgreen:

Got it.....next time.

In the meantime, I loved that crowd yelling LOCK HIM UP as Stone preened and pranced before the TV camera's. He is such a phony diva.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

No, I see Pence as what the Constitution requires should the President be forced out of office. Seems you have never taken a civics class which is the root of your ignorance on just about every govt. issue

Sorry but you were oblivious to the corruption under the Obama Administration which doesn't give you a lot of credibility on this issue, those indictments mostly are about lying to Congress, money issues and having nothing to do with corruption or Trump but that doesn't stop you from spreading hate and your false opinions. If Trump is removed, then what? At that time will you get back to looking at actual results instead of promoting class envy, warfare, jealousy and chaos?

How do you know what I was oblivious to? Show me a post of mine that makes it look like I am oblivious, then when you fail at that, we can put your whataboutism to rest. Pence is the replacement for an ousted impeached president but that doesn't have anything to do with your original question, does it now?

Nice try dodging my answer TO YOUR QUESTION, didn't work.

And STOP WHINING.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

How do you know what I was oblivious to? Show me a post of mine that makes it look like I am oblivious, then when you fail at that, we can put your whataboutism to rest. Pence is the replacement for an ousted impeached president but that doesn't have anything to do with your original question, does it now?

Nice try dodging my answer TO YOUR QUESTION, didn't work.

And STOP WHINING.

Your 24/7 Trump bashing and wishful thinking totally ignoring that none of the indictments had anything to do with collusion say it all. Your non answers do as well

 

[Objective Voice]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

You put so little faith in the American people believing that pocketbook issues don't matter which is why you shy away from them. You obviously don't like America first or the results being generated which is why you continue on the Russian issue which to me is a non issue. You believe that Pence will be a lame duck to be replaced by whom? Your party is made up for radical socialists who will continually be rejected by the majority in this country. The American people will always vote their pocketbooks in Presidential election which is why Hillary lost in 2016 and a Republican will win in 2020 because the results warrant it.

Wait a minute...I thought the reason Hillary lost was because she was "the lessor of two evils...more corrupt than Trump...at least that's the excuse many folks on the Right gave as the primary reasons she lost. Not having a vision for the future was secondary to the aforementioned issues. So, which is it?

For some reason you believe that someone else should pay for your personal responsibility issues and that this isn't a country where there is movement from the bottom upwards. Trillions of dollars have been spent by social engineering by bureaucrats who have done nothing but create dependence, career jobs, and debt none of which bother you but should

you don't have a lot of credibility on this issue so keep spouting the anti Trump, anti private sector, pro class envy and warfare rhetoric and see how that works out for you

I want a gov't that generates the results we are seeing today, you want one that promotes class warfare and a massive central govt. You see in your world you cannot get what you want in your own state so you want a jurist or a bureaucrat to give it to you. Not sure how you were raised but see that apparently your parents taught you that someone else should pay for your personal responsibility issues and spending in the name of compassion is all that matters.

The Trump results are being ignored as you continue to ignore civics and ignore the official data which doesn't give you a lot of credibility

As to the rest of your dribble...:roll:...:boohoo:...:yawn:...:coffeepap

 

[Objective Voice]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

Got it.....next time.

In the meantime, I loved that crowd yelling LOCK HIM UP as Stone preened and pranced before the TV camera's. He is such a phony diva.

I just love the fact that he got indicted. His smug butt needed to be brought down a peg or two. And now that he has, #45 has to be shacking in his boots! That's 2 of Trump's closest confidants now in handcuffs. Get Jr and Mueller could probably wrap this thing up by this summer.

 

[haymarket]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

I just love the fact that he got indicted. His smug butt needed to be brought down a peg or two. And now that he has, #45 has to be shacking in his boots! That's 2 of Trump's closest confidants now in handcuffs. Get Jr and Mueller could probably wrap this thing up by this summer.

But we have been told this hs nothing to do with Trump nor Russia.

 

[Objective Voice]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

But we have been told this hs nothing to do with Trump nor Russia.

I'll just put this here for the sake of those who may have missed it the first time...:wink:

There can be only three outcomes here:

1. Trump was completely oblivious as to what members of his campaign were doing behind his back. Thus, he's completely innocent of any wrong-doing.

2. Trump didn't want to know what members of his campaign were doing in order to advance his chances of being elected. So, he gave vague orders, i.e., "do what you have to do", so as to claim he knew nothing - plausible deniability.

3. Trump knew what was going on but agreed to go about things in a covert way which would include agreeing for his son and members of his campaign using burner phones to disguise their cellphone conversations - even going as far as using people outside his campaign to exchange information, i.e., Donald Trump, Jr., Michael Cohen and Roger Stone.

If (1) is true, Trump is an idiot.

If (2) is true, Trump can pin the blame on others while claiming "he did not collude with the Russians".

If (3) is true, Mueller is closing in and will find out the truth one way or another.

Right now, it's looking like (2) is the excuse but (3) is the reality.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

Re: Steve Bannon is the ‘high-ranking’ Trump official in Roger Stone indictment who asked about futu

As much as I don't like Trump... Trump Jr. might be even a bigger a'hole? Is that possible??