[W:108]Which Trump do you agree with

[Airyaman]

Re: Which Trump do you agree with

I find it interesting that this guy who is not even accepting a salary to do this job is incessantly accused of only considering his own financial advantage.

What has he done to provide a foundation on which you have built your fantasy?

By the end of his eighth year, this will add up to a little more than 3 million he's turned away. I don't recall another President since JFK refusing his salary. I kind of wish he'd send it my way.

Trump-O-Meter: Take no salary | PolitiFact

It's all a show for the rubes. He makes his money elsewhere (think of all the trips to his own properties, paid for by the government). I'll be interested to see if he turns it down if reelected.

 

[tres borrachos]

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So its misogynistic now to be uninterested in promoting female privileges? How very misandrist of you to that shaming tactic.

No wonder there is a growing population of people that are not empathic to women's complaints.

The law is the law. If women dont want to be pregnant, dont spread your legs.

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Female privileges. Yes, keep us locked in our rooms wearing a chastity belt until you decide you want to engage in sex with us. And if we get pregnant, it's our problem, and our fault, not yours.

You never had a woman love you in your entire life, did you?

The law is the law. SCOTUS settled it, as Brett Kavanagh said. Abortion is legal. You just have to live with it. No worries though - I would guarantee no woman would "spread her legs" for you if she was aware of the ignorance that flows through your head.

 

[trouble13]

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At least you aren't going with the "trump isn't a politician" nonsense.

Good on you for that.

Trump is a political animal. I have no illusions about that.

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[marke]

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There's an old adage, 'a leopard can't change his spots'. Trump has changed? From what, a self-centred con artist, fraud and a crook into a decent, caring individual?

Who said politicians are caring individuals? After all, it was Hillary who asked what the hell difference did the deaths of American heroes under her care make as long as she and Obama still looked good in public.

 

[Carleen]

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Absolutely true.

I was a Democrat when the Democrat party was more like JFK. So was Reagan.

Regardless of party, if you can't make fun of any politician, you just aren't trying. In truth, you're using incredible restraint. Perhaps just showing incredible bias...

I've posted here that Trump should change parties just we can all have a little fun watching the lying hypocrites from both parties running into each other as they change allegiances. Again.

Suddenly the Dems would be calling him a stable genius and the Reps would be moving to impeach. The possibilities are endless and hysterical.

He would never have won running as a dem.

 

[calamity]

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Who said politicians are caring individuals? After all, it was Hillary who asked what the hell difference did the deaths of American heroes under her care make as long as she and Obama still looked good in public.

American heroes? Ah, that only applies when you can blame a democrat for something. I get it. Oh, yeah, and it's also like calling murderers heroes when a Republican wants to pardon them.

 

[trouble13]

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Female privileges. Yes, keep us locked in our rooms wearing a chastity belt until you decide you want to engage in sex with us. And if we get pregnant, it's our problem, and our fault, not yours.

You never had a woman love you in your entire life, did you?

The law is the law. SCOTUS settled it, as Brett Kavanagh said. Abortion is legal. You just have to live with it. No worries though - I would guarantee no woman would "spread her legs" for you if she was aware of the ignorance that flows through your head.

You are the queen of scarecrows. Feel free to link my quote of keeping women in chasity belts until i want to engage in sex with them.

What seems to have your panties in a bunch is that i treat women with the same attitude you treat men with.

On more than 1 occasion you have told me that if men do not like the consequences of sex they should not engage in it. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

Get over your egotistical view that women are special and deserve privileges men are not entitled to. Once conception occurs men do not have the privilege to decide if they want to be fathers or not and now in some states women no longer are entitled to that privilege either.

Those states have made the newly formed human's life a more important priority than the privilege women enjoyed that allowed them to electively kill it for any reason they deem appropiate.

The fact that you dont like being treated the way you treat men i find hysterical. You are an immoral hypocrite.

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[Gina]

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Moderator's Warning:

You all are not the topic. Stop the personal stuff and address the topic in the OP.

 

[marke]

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He abandoned all Democratic positions in order to get his base to vote for him. He'd change back in a wink if he thought that was the way to maintain power.

You might be right. Hillary has flip-flopped on issues as well. For example she was first in favor of the Iraq war before she was against it, like dozens of others as well.

 

[marke]

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American heroes? Ah, that only applies when you can blame a democrat for something. I get it. Oh, yeah, and it's also like calling murderers heroes when a Republican wants to pardon them.

Those who died defending the American outpost in Libya were heroes, no matter what morons like Hillary and other democrats think.

 

[jamesrage]

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To put this into perspective, Trump supported the Clinton position that Abortion should be legal and RARE.

That position was nothing more than a lie meant to appease those who found abortion appalling.

The current Democrat position is that abortion should be employed as often as possible and employed even if the baby to be aborted is already born.

Thats always been their position. Its why these people fought tooth and nail over late term abortion bans.

The debate on this issue has evolved and EVERYONE'S position should have evolved as a result.

Those with rigid and crippled minds, prone to the regimentation of the agenda produced by their elites, seem unable to accept new ideas and so adapt to a changing set of data and information.

Nothing more than an attempt to justify Trump's constant position changes.

 

[jamesrage]

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Trump has always been a Dem. He ran as a Republican because Dems would never have accepted him as a candidate.

You are probably right on that.Because of that I have to wonder what will happen if Trump gets another term and the democrats win the majority of both the house and senate. Will he still go by what he campaigned on or will his positions slide to the left since he doesn't have to worry about winning another term in office?

 

[code1211]

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Not loving abortion is not a principle. Neither is hating abortion.

Neither is agreeing with someone which is apparently what you are doing with Trump.

 

[code1211]

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Politicians lie. But I thought Trump wasn't a politician? Didn't you support him because he's an outsider and not a politician?

No. I supported him because he said he would increase jobs for All Americans, promised to work for all Americans instead of segmented slivers of voters, promised to put America first and reduce insane regulatory strangulation of the economy.

As it turns out, he's doing it and there is more opportunity for All Americans and greater wealth for All Americans than ever before.

Did you vote for Hillary because you like her predictions of doom or was it the flying monkeys?

 

[code1211]

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I think the information is out there, in "the media".

Trump thinks they should all be as fawning as Fox, which is absurd. There's a big difference between not covering and not fawning.

We just went through around three years of the media broadcasting stories that are all now shown to be lies with regard to the collusion between Trump and the Russians. They still seem to be doing it.

They breathlessly "reported" that the lying party loyalists were holding evidence that would prove the collusion. They continue to air the lies from the party loyalists that have been shown to have lied to them previously.

We are now left with one or both of two choices to explain why they did this and are continuing to do this:

1. They are are also party loyalists broadcasting propaganda for no other reason to attack Trump because they happen to hate him.

2. They are utter morons and idiots who have no idea what their job is or how to do it.

Which is it? Are they lying propagandists or utter morons? You make the call.

 

[code1211]

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No one "loves" abortion.
Trump does not love freedom of choice. He wants the government to make the choice.

In what way do his words, actions or policies lead you to this conclusion?

As I understand it, Trump recommends removing the Feds completely from the regulation of Choice. Trump heads the Federal Government. This places the regulation squarely on the shoulders of the elected representatives in the various states.

How does Trump removing the Federal Government from the decision process entirely equate in your mind to Trump "wants the government to make the choice"?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

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Neither is agreeing with someone which is apparently what you are doing with Trump.

Yeah, not loving abortion is a pretty popular opinion.:roll:

 

[code1211]

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I'm kinda immune to a lot of persuasion because many techniques are targeting emotional circuits that are "broken" due to my Aspergers.

This forces me to look at things myself because I can't just take peoples word on things.

Trump is a horndog who doesn't like condoms (or may just be so small he can't keep one on).

Yet no one knows of any illegitimate children. So it is highly unlikely that he has never paid for an abortion.

I'm sorry that you are affected by Aspergers.

It seems pretty likely given the crap storm of anti-Trump lies and information that if there was an abortion performed on demand for a Trump consort, it would have gained release.

Lord knows the lying propagandists have released EVERYTHING else they could find, true or not, that they felt might hurt Trump.

Assuming that something happened and presenting no proof seems weak. As your only proof to support your assertion, you present the fact that there is no proof to support your assertion. This seems illogical to me.

I'm not really in touch with the effect the Aspergers has on logic. Does the absence of proof qualify as the presence of proof to you?

 

[code1211]

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It's all a show for the rubes. He makes his money elsewhere (think of all the trips to his own properties, paid for by the government). I'll be interested to see if he turns it down if reelected.

According to Forbes, his net worth is down vs the net worth before the election.

That aside, though, are you seriously asserting that running for and winning the presidency was nothing more than an elaborate scheme to increase his income?

What level of Never Trumpism is demanded to support this line of thinking?

Donald Trump Net Worth 2018: Why the President'''s Fortune Fell | Money

 

[code1211]

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He would never have won running as a dem.

Given the rigged primary system, he could never have been nominated.

That said, though, I think it's interesting that Hillary was pre-chosen then nominated because she was next in line. She had earned the right to be the nominee based on party loyalty and ideological purity.

Next one up? Biden!

To me, this sounds very similar to the process that delivered Dole, McCain and Romney to be the losing candidate.

Prior to him winning the Republican Nomination and the subsequent Presidential Election, the smart money was that he could not win the nomination OR the election.

Go figure. Sometimes the smart money just isn't.

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[Airyaman]

Re: Which Trump do you agree with

According to Forbes, his net worth is down vs the net worth before the election.

That aside, though, are you seriously asserting that running for and winning the presidency was nothing more than an elaborate scheme to increase his income?

What level of Never Trumpism is demanded to support this line of thinking?

Donald Trump Net Worth 2018: Why the President'''s Fortune Fell | Money

He didn't plan to win.

 

[code1211]

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That position was nothing more than a lie meant to appease those who found abortion appalling.


Thats always been their position. Its why these people fought tooth and nail over late term abortion bans.


Nothing more than an attempt to justify Trump's constant position changes.

Is allegiance to an obsolete position even when new information is brought to light preferred over adapting based on better, more current information or abilities?

Condemning a person for adaptability seems like an odd reason to condemn.

Do you own a cell phone or are you sticking with the old, tried and true Harvest Gold Wall Mount?

 

[<alt>doxygen]

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We just went through around three years of the media broadcasting stories that are all now shown to be lies with regard to the collusion between Trump and the Russians. They still seem to be doing it.

They breathlessly "reported" that the lying party loyalists were holding evidence that would prove the collusion. They continue to air the lies from the party loyalists that have been shown to have lied to them previously.

We are now left with one or both of two choices to explain why they did this and are continuing to do this:

1. They are are also party loyalists broadcasting propaganda for no other reason to attack Trump because they happen to hate him.

2. They are utter morons and idiots who have no idea what their job is or how to do it.

Which is it? Are they lying propagandists or utter morons? You make the call.

So you maintain that the Trump campaign in no way worked with the Russians? Is that it? Try reading the Mueller report.

OR,

Maybe you should stick to the alternate reality of Fox and Breitbart.

 

[<alt>doxygen]

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He didn't plan to win.

Trump won. The dog caught the car. Now he has to hold on for 6 more years until the statute of limitations runs out or he likely goes to jail (SDNY).

 

[Dittohead not!]

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You might be right. Hillary has flip-flopped on issues as well. For example she was first in favor of the Iraq war before she was against it, like dozens of others as well.

Good point. Trump is only just slightly worse than Hillary Clinton.