US makes deal with Mexico on tariffs, immigration, Trump announces

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I hope you don't mind me keeping you on your toes but 'border wall funds were NOT a done deal'
the Dems offered 25Billion but in installments not 25 right away. Plus part of the deal Trump insisted on was
the end of chain migration & eliminating the VISA lottery along with the wall to give amnesty to 1.8 million illegals.
Trump refused and properly so the Wall is a deterrent not the end all, curbing chain migration
& putting an end to the visa lottery were equally emphasized by Trump & the open boarders crowd cried NO! Get your facts straight!

You agree with ending chain migration? You agree with ending the VISA lottery? Hmmmm, sounds like your own party is working against you.

Cornyn said Congress should “address the DACA population and deal with border security and some of those measures and then use that as a confidence-building measure to move on and do other immigration reform. There’s a lot of other things beyond just the diversity lottery, visa lottery.”

Durbin, who like Cornyn scoffed when asked about dropping the issue into the DACA talks, warned against turning the negotiations into an immigration catch-all.

“Please. Stop loading things on for these poor kids. Let’s get them taken care of. Everybody’s got every immigration idea in the world and they want to put it on the backs of these kids,” he said.

Sorry dude, nobody gets EVERYTHING they want, even the President. He has to work WITH Congress, not bully them, but I guess you don't understand that. I guess you believe in dictatorial rule.
If your talking points had value, Congress would have echoed you. They didn't, not even your own party.

But go ahead and blame the Democrats, we know you will.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

There's NO DOUBT Democrats want Open Borders.

But of all the Democratic open borders contingent, Omar takes the cake! It's fascinating to be lectured by a Somali as to what is un-American..

Two junior representatives do not control the entire party, but I guess you need an alternate reality where they actually do.
I cannot address such weaponized ignorance, NO one can.

 

[slick]

You agree with ending chain migration? You agree with ending the VISA lottery? Hmmmm, sounds like your own party is working against you.



Sorry dude, nobody gets EVERYTHING they want, even the President. He has to work WITH Congress, not bully them, but I guess you don't understand that. I guess you believe in dictatorial rule.
If your talking points had value, Congress would have echoed you. They didn't, not even your own party.

But go ahead and blame the Democrats, we know you will.

Your commitment to party dogma is admirable. Disregard how it flies in the face of reality.

Trump succeeds yet again. The libtards running the House are trying to perpetuate the crisis at the border. They denied funds
for the wall, funds for security, fund to help the overwhelmed facilities at the border - its the Democrats who are causing all the
humanitarian suffering. But Trump shows them there is more than one way to skin a cat. Plus, a judge recently denied the Democrats
lawsuit regarding Trump using military funds for the wall, so Trump is going to keep his promise about the border despite the
anti-American Democrats in the House.

Difficult for the President to follow through when members of the New Democratic Party refuse to participate in the
solution, and prefer open borders, and Sanctuary Cities and States roll out the welcome mat. So Trump persuades
the Mexican Govt. for assistance because the Dems wouldn't budge.

Open borders are a treasonous objective, and voters should keep that in mind as the National Emergency on the Southwest Border intensifies.
The very reason we established a federal government was to do things like protect our borders. Trump is only doing this because congress wont act.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Your commitment to party dogma is admirable. Disregard how it flies in the face of reality.

Trump succeeds yet again. The libtards running the House are trying to perpetuate the crisis at the border. They denied funds
for the wall, funds for security, fund to help the overwhelmed facilities at the border - its the Democrats who are causing all the
humanitarian suffering. But Trump shows them there is more than one way to skin a cat. Plus, a judge recently denied the Democrats
lawsuit regarding Trump using military funds for the wall, so Trump is going to keep his promise about the border despite the
anti-American Democrats in the House.

Difficult for the President to follow through when members of the New Democratic Party refuse to participate in the
solution, and prefer open borders, and Sanctuary Cities and States roll out the welcome mat. So Trump persuades
the Mexican Govt. for assistance because the Dems wouldn't budge.

Open borders are a treasonous objective, and voters should keep that in mind as the National Emergency on the Southwest Border intensifies.
The very reason we established a federal government was to do things like protect our borders. Trump is only doing this because congress wont act.

You do realize that just making **** up without anything to support your **** doesn't actually work, yes?

 

[ecofarm]

Open borders are a treasonous objective, and voters should keep that in mind as the National Emergency on the Southwest Border intensifies.

Where'd you get Southwest from? It's southern border. Adjective southern, not a proper noun. There's no south central or south east, that's all water.

So, just southern and no capital.

 

[slick]

You do realize that just making **** up without anything to support your **** doesn't actually work, yes?

Being one upped by Trump I see has his hate mongering adversaries & their base seething again!
The organizers of this disaster on the border & there partners in crime checkmated once again by Trump 'the man of the people'!!!

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Being one upped by Trump I see has his hate mongering adversaries & their base seething again!
The organizers of this disaster on the border & there partners in crime checkmated once again by Trump 'the man of the people'!!!

What are you talking about? Congratulations to President Trump for singlehandedly fixing the Mexico issue, no more illegals, did you not hear his announcement? Or don't you believe it? I believe it.
In fact I believe it so much that I look forward to not hearing about during the campaign, because he has now fixed it.
Why don't you believe your president when he says that there is no more illegal immigration problem?

By the way, if you ever decide that I AM ALLOWED to HAVE my own opinions and position on immigration I'll be more than happy to share them with you but as long as you and the other 209,879,783,487,238,736,287,648,764,634,874 Trump supporters continue to insist I am for open borders and free stuff for everyone, there's no way I will take anything you say seriously.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Where'd you get Southwest from? It's southern border. Adjective southern, not a proper noun. There's no south central or south east, that's all water.

So, just southern and no capital.

He's just parroting something he hears on Hannity, if you ask him to dissect the issue his head will explode.
Take for instance the fact that both Republicans AND Democrats passed Trump's initial border bill unanimously and it went to his desk for a signature and Trump changed his mind at the last minute and he comes back with:

The libtards running the House are trying to perpetuate the crisis at the border. They denied funds
for the wall, funds for security, fund to help the overwhelmed facilities at the border - its the Democrats who are causing all the
humanitarian suffering. But Trump shows them there is more than one way to skin a cat.

 

[ecofarm]

He's just parroting something he hears on Hannity, if you ask him to dissect the issue his head will explode.

I found his hyperbolic and nonsensical grammar and word choice rather appropriate for the hyperbolic and nonsensical garbage he was pushing. Maybe I was too quick to criticize. Maybe it was fashion.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

i found his hyperbolic and nonsensical grammar and word choice rather appropriate for the hyperbolic and nonsensical garbage he was pushing. Maybe i was too quick to criticize. Maybe it was fashion.

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i won!!!!1!!!1q!!!

 

[ecofarm]

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i won!!!!1!!!1q!!!

 

[slick]

Where'd you get Southwest from? It's southern border. Adjective southern, not a proper noun. There's no south central or south east, that's all water.

So, just southern and no capital.

I also capitalized 'National Emergency' would it have suited you better if I hadn't. Anyway, very insightful thanks for sharing.

"While there are some official government regions, such as those used by the U.S. Census Bureau and the Standard Federal Regions,
most people use five major regions when dividing up the states. They are the Northeast, Southeast, Midwest, Southwest, and West."
I guess I should have posted the Southwest & California which is not considered Southwest. I'll be more specific next time!

 

[ecofarm]

How about National Emergency should they not have been capitalized. Anyway, very insightful thanks for sharing.

Very welcome. My pleasure, really.

"While there are some official government regions, such as those used by the U.S. Census Bureau and the Standard Federal Regions,
most people use five major regions when dividing up the states. They are the Northeast, Southeast, Midwest, Southwest, and West."
I guess I should have posted the Southwest & California which is not considered Southwest. I'll be more specific next time!

There's no southeast border. That's water. Just southern. Cause there's only one.

 

[slick]

Very welcome. My pleasure, really.



There's no southeast border. That's water. Just southern. Cause there's only one.

Extremely silly low value post, move along!

 

[ecofarm]

Extremely silly low value post, move along!

I'm getting mixed signals.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

It doesn't matter. If it amounts to any relief or solution to the border crisis, the left and MSM will do everything to undermine it, misrepresent it, or credit somebody, anybody but Trump. If Trump succeeds at anything, or tries to help our country in any way, if you only get your news from MSM, you won't know about it anyway.

I think that I agree with your "If Trump succeeds at anything, or tries to help our country in any way, if you only get your news from MSM, you won't know about it anyway.".

HOWEVER, I do note that that sentence does start out with the word "if" and also note that I do NOT "only get (my) news from (American) MSM".

So far, except for propaganda organs supporting Mr. Trump (almost all of which are based in the United States of America) I haven't seen much evidence (actually almost none) that Mr. Trump has "succeed(ed) at anything, or trie(d) to help (America) in any way". I have, however, seen a lot of evidence that Mr. Trump HAS been very successful in forcing people into doing what they wanted to do by giving them what they wanted him to give them.

I suppose that that is one definition of "success".

 

[Nickyjo]

There is a vast difference between " Checked " Asylum seekers like Vietnamese feeling
Vietnam from untold persecution and how Cuba and Haiti have been viewed.
Yes,Cuba and Haiti were run into the ground by very selfish power mad tyrants.
But at least we knew of their origins.And why they fled.
This Unchecked and ridiculous mass of Illegals streaming-in are from God knows
where.Guatemala.Or Venezeula.Probably El Savador and the Honduras.Maybe
sneaking in from Somalia.

Plenty of info out there as to why these people have fled. That’s why we have an asylum system, to find out what individual circumstances are. Many Cubans were let in en masse, with little review.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

But you have pointed that out and I don't dispute it, as it even reinforces my point further.

Can't see anything amiss in that assessment either.

Shall we continue to "dispute" over whether or not our agreement is agreed to be an agreement?

Or, since "Box A" fits inside "Box B" and since "Box B" fits inside "Box C", shall we continue to debate whether it is also correct to say that "Box A" fits inside "Box C"?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

wagerweb.eu

Odds to win Senate Control 2020
Republicans -260 Democrats +200


Odds to win House Control 2020
Republicans -240 Democrats -185

Which means the Republicans have a slightly better chance to win the house than the democrats have to win the senate, key word slightly

Since I don't really feel like signing up for an on-line gaming site, could you please provide a direct link to the page that you got those odds from?

Also, I don't quite understand what the odds actually mean. From the "+" and "-" signs, it appears that the Republicans has a NEGATIVE chance to win control (I'll take that to mean 50%+1 vote) of the House of Representatives and the Democrats have a POSITIVE chance, which I can understand. However, it also appears that NEITHER the Republicans NOR the Democrats have a POSITIVE chance to win control (I'll take that to mean 50%+1 vote) of the Senate. If that is the case, then are the European bookies saying that the Senate is going to be split 50/50 or are they saying that there is some third party in the US that no one has heard of yet that is going to win at least two US Senate seats (thus enabling that third party to "control" the US Senate unless the Republicans and the Democrats actually work together in order to pass legislation?

 

[MauiMan]

I hope that the Trump opposition is not too proud to concede, and admit that this is a good deal for our country.

The deal was made months ago. Trump has conned you yet again.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Since when has Our United States turned into a dumping ground for " asylum seekers ".

Cutting out all of the inflammatory rhetoric, the answer is 1951.

Since they lost the Presidency in 2016.

No, since 1951.

They are now in the desperate throes for a new voting block.

Who is "they"?

Blacks appear to be looking at President Trump in a serious way.

Indeed, but, unfortunately for Mr. Trump, NOT in an overly kindly manner.

Unless one thinks Jim Brown is some kind of kitschy sellout. Just listen on Sirius Radio { Stationl 126 } to Urban Radio and " The Black Eagle " or lifelong activist Joe Madison.The guy who constantly says " And ... By The Way! ".

Exactly who are those people and why should I be listening to them?

About as rude,Intolerant and Belligerent as they come. Him with his Degree in Sociology. Talk about a worthless piece of sheepskin.

Absolutely, "Dem n***ers shun't be larnin mor'en theys needs fer ta werk inda fields lahk God wanned 'em ta du." is the way that all Real Patriotic True Patriotic Conservative Patriotic Right-thinking Patriotic American Patriotic Patriots should be thinking here in the 19[SUP]th[/SUP] Century.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Did you think in such terms when the United States turned into a dumping ground for Cuban asylum seekers who were mostly conservative? By the way, Florida became a crucial battleground that gave the win to the republicans in at least one election ( 2000).

Standard expected response of "That's DIFFERENT!!!".

Odds against 10 :: 1.

Want to place a bet?

LATE ADD

Aren't you glad you didn't bet?

 

[Erod]

Meanwhile, China's economy is suffering horribly from the tariffs. They needed to be called on their illegal trade practices for decades, and it's finally be done. The experts said that China's economy would withstand the pressure and America would suffer, but instead, America's economy continues to thrive and China's is taking a nose dive.

It's working.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

si se puede!

I have it on good authority (from a usually reliable and highly placed source who provided this information on the condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to provide this information) that that agreement includes a "secret protocol" whereby Hawai'i will remain as a monarchy but that Mr. Trump will be crowned its King [whereupon the second "secret protocol" - which places the "King of Hawaii" as the ex officio "President of the United States of America" - will kick in.

There are also "secret protocols" that provide for the physical movement of the "White House" from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to 21°18′24″N 157°51′32″W. Right next to the soon to be built (private) bridge to the "King Donald the First World's Most Super Highest Tower, Most Super Posh Luxurious Resort, and Most Super-Duper Fantastically Greatly Super Golf Course Complex" (formerly Kauai).

 

[trixare4kids]

The deal was made months ago. Trump has conned you yet again.

Nope.