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US Army prepared to move Vindman to secure location: report

SLC said:
No but why would they offer him the complete control of their military. What makes them think he would be loyal to the Ukraine and not the USA?
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But the fact is, he stuck with America. What they wanted has no bearing on his loyalty.
 
dixon01767 said:
?????? It shows Vindman thinks there are. Nothing has happened.
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You know for a fact he has not been threatened? If he has been threatened, then something has happened.

You don't move someone to safety because something has "happened" (that is too late), you move them because there is a credible threat something could happen.
 
Hamish Howl said:
But the fact is, he stuck with America. What they wanted has no bearing on his loyalty.
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Its just odd that the Ukraine would think he had their backs. Maybe he was little too pro Ukraine? Maybe he pushed his own agenda instead of Trump's.
 
SLC said:
Its just odd that the Ukraine would think he had their backs. Maybe he was little too pro Ukraine? Maybe he pushed his own agenda instead of Trump's.
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Who cares what they thought?

They offered, he declined, he reported it to S2.

He at no point acted inappropriately or in a disloyal fashion.
 
Hamish Howl said:
Who cares what they thought?

They offered, he declined, he reported it to S2.

He at no point acted inappropriately or in a disloyal fashion.
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You can't possibly know that for sure. The Ukrainians approached him to lead their army for some reason. We know he told them to ignore Trump's foreign policy. Trump wanted to investigate corruption in the 2016 election and he told them to ignore Trump.
 
SLC said:
You can't possibly know that for sure. The Ukrainians approached him to lead their army for some reason. We know he told them to ignore Trump's foreign policy. Trump wanted to investigate corruption in the 2016 election and he told them to ignore Trump.
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So now the standard is "an offer was made, so he's a traitor"?

Please tell me that's the standard. This is not a trap or anything. Trust me.
 
Kaepernick, Vindman, the whistleblower etc are learning that there are consequences to their actions.

Democrats will soon see the consequences of their disgusting actions when they are voted out of government. The people will see that for four years congress didn't do their job. Congress wasted their time going after Trump instead of working for the betterment of this nation.
 
Mongidig said:
Kaepernick, Vindman, the whistleblower etc are learning that there are consequences to their actions.

Democrats will soon see the consequences of their disgusting actions when they are voted out of government. The people will see that for four years congress didn't do their job. Congress wasted their time going after Trump instead of working for the betterment of this nation.
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Snitches get stitches?
 
poweRob said:
****ting on war heroes and pardoning war criminals...

:elephantf
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Vindman himself described his wound as superficial. He was back in a couple of hours. You describe him as a hero but his co workers
described him as a pompous pain in the ass and are glad they no longer have to deal with him. It's Pillsbury's problem now because
his new job as a doughboy is already causing problems in the kitchen
 
SLC said:
Does anyone else think its strange that Vindman was offered the position of Defense Minister in the Ukraine?
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Vindman is a patriot all right patriotic to his land of birth. This was so obvious to
the Ukies that he was offered the title of Ukraines Minister of Defense. If anyone was
trying to get one up on Ukraine like Trump does to all countries, and he has done it well
someone so devoted to his homeland like Vindman wouldn't stand for it. If he had
to embarrass himself in this feeble impeachment attempt to protect Ukraine from policy
changes that weren't 100% allied with Ukie interests so be it.
 
d0gbreath said:
I don't see them as particularly threatening.
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Because in the end they will not upend the country as they falsely believe their actions will do. They'll just kill a few innocent people and go to jail or suffer death by suicide or cop. They are not a danger to the republic, they're just a danger.
 
slick said:
Vindman is a patriot all right patriotic to his land of birth. This was so obvious to
the Ukies that he was offered the title of Ukraines Minister of Defense. If anyone was
trying to get one up on Ukraine like Trump does to all countries, and he has done it well
someone so devoted to his homeland like Vindman wouldn't stand for it. If he had
to embarrass himself in this feeble impeachment attempt to protect Ukraine from policy
changes that weren't 100% allied with Ukie interests so be it.
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Since when was the word 'Ukie' a thing? Don't forget it was Twump who tried to collude with 'Ukie' to influence the next election. We've seen the transcripts.
 
slick said:
Vindman himself described his wound as superficial. He was back in a couple of hours. You describe him as a hero but his co workers
described him as a pompous pain in the ass and are glad they no longer have to deal with him. It's Pillsbury's problem now because
his new job as a doughboy is already causing problems in the kitchen
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Okay Republicans and trump supporters no longer get to support the twoops then, deal? The military, their risks and sacrifices are just a convenient prop. The moment one challenges Cadet Bone Spurs, he's a coward/traitor/fake etc is that it?
 
slick said:
Vindman himself described his wound as superficial. He was back in a couple of hours. You describe him as a hero but his co workers
described him as a pompous pain in the ass and are glad they no longer have to deal with him. It's Pillsbury's problem now because
his new job as a doughboy is already causing problems in the kitchen
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Now gop resorting to swift boating a other veteran to protect cadet bone spurs.
 
dixon01767 said:
?????? It shows Vindman thinks there are. Nothing has happened.
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There are days when I can appreciate the "It is totally unwarranted and premature to worry about being murdered until AFTER you have been killed." line of logic.

Today is not one of them.
 
Geoist said:
Lol, if you think Antifa members are Democrats then you demonstrate a clear lack of understanding of left-wing ideologies. The VAST majority of Antifa members are anarchists/socialists/communists. Perhaps a few would vote Democrat as the 'less of evils' but would never actually call themselves Democrats.
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Actually, if you will excuse a tiny bit of over statement, the "VAST majority of Antifa's ACTIVE members are ignorant, boneheaded, jerks who agree withBobby Seale's 'There is a place for women in the revolution - on their backs.'.". The rest of them just like "playing at being revolutionaries".
 
Republicans are angered that Lt. Col. Vindman wore his military uniform to a congressional hearing.
Remember when Republicans used to call men in military uniform testifying before Congress "heroes?"

Oliver North uniform.webp
 
Mongidig said:
Kaepernick, Vindman, the whistleblower etc are learning that there are consequences to their actions.

Democrats will soon see the consequences of their disgusting actions when they are voted out of government. The people will see that for four years congress didn't do their job. Congress wasted their time going after Trump instead of working for the betterment of this nation.
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For four years? Where did the other two years come from? Oh, right, the GOP.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Actually, if you will excuse a tiny bit of over statement, the "VAST majority of Antifa's ACTIVE members are ignorant, boneheaded, jerks who agree withBobby Seale's 'There is a place for women in the revolution - on their backs.'.". The rest of them just like "playing at being revolutionaries".
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Yup, it's street theater and I guarantee you most if not all would be toast after five minutes in a REAL street battle against REAL actual German Nazis. These aren't European partisans of the 1930's, these are kids who freak when their iPhones can't get reception to stream their dumbass hysterics.

Same for the tiki torch boys.
 
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