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#UraniumOne: How Clinton Sold Out the U.S. to Russia

dobieg said:
It has not been debunked. They simply said there is not any direct evidence of quid pro quo for the $145 million the Clinton Foundation received from Uranium One executives. Hardly a resounding proclamation of innocence.

And I see most of those sources failed to add this little bit from the Hill that was updated on Snopes.





https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/
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Whatever the "reason" for the donation to an accredited charity (and not into the Clinton's pockets), it WAS NOT because of Uranium one. Hillary had no say defeating it anyway. It a 1st class CT nothing more. I'de worry about the foreign money going into Trump's pocket daily instead of this decade old nothingburger.
 
iguanaman said:
Whatever the "reason" for the donation to an accredited charity (and not into the Clinton's pockets), it WAS NOT because of Uranium one. Hillary had no say defeating it anyway. It a 1st class CT nothing more. I'de worry about the foreign money going into Trump's pocket daily instead of this decade old nothingburger.
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Well since you said it and said it with emphasis,....
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
I dont do anymore than conveyance of message to the opposition...its a signature subtle form of disrespect after years of putting up with your sides incessant inane trashing. See, you get the message. As regards your prefrontals, I am not convinced they are still attached.

Prove me wrong...how about start by actually addressing the OP in a meaningful manner...eh?
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I don't even understand what your post means.
 
Emwu said:
The Uranium One scandal saw major U.S. and foreign #uranium mines passed to Russia. Millions of dollars made their way to the Clinton Foundation from individuals tied to the deal, as then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton helped approve the sale to Russia on the government side. This also made the United States increasingly reliant on Russia for nuclear energy, despite U.S. intelligence warnings that Russia was attempting to exert foreign influence by controlling energy markets.

Inforgraphic: https://www.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2018/02/09/EPOCH_TIMES_URANIUM_ONE_FINAL.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPmEwwJNI8
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At the time of the Uranium deal the US was on friendly terms with Russia...but that was before they invaded Ukraine in 2014. And I think the US only gets 2% of it's uranium from Russia which is hardly a "reliance on Russia."

The article below says the deal was signed off by a Republican appointee...twice.

"...In fact, a Utah state official reviewed the Uranium One deal. Rusty Lundberg was a Republican appointee who was leading the state’s Division of Radiation Control back at the time.

“Ours was an interaction directly with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission,” he said....

Lundberg signed off on the sale – twice. Once when the Russian company bought 51 percent of Uranium One, and three years later with the sale of the remaining shares.

Another reason his review was so low-key is that nothing was happening at the Shootering Canyon plant and hadn’t for decades. The plant processed uranium for just 76 days in just after it opened in the early 1980s. It’s been idle - on “standby” - ever since.

Lundberg said he’s never heard from the State Department about Uranium One. Or the Clinton Foundation. Or political operatives from Washington or Utah. And his story checked out with the state’s files on Uranium One...."

How A Tiny Utah Town Got Thrown Into The 'Real' Russia Scandal | KUER 90.1​

So far it doesn't appear that anyone is currently operating the uranium mine in Utah...and that's a good thing.




AG Sessions appointed U.S. Attorney for Utah, John Huber to investigate the Uranium One Deal back in March 2018...but no one's heard a peep from him since.

 
Saladin4 said:
Your late...Story has been de-bunked
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And debunked, and more debunked and even further debunked. Sadly it seems some Trump supporters need one/two/three/hell one thousands more whines and digs at someone who is no longer a presidential candidate and who will not run against him in 2020.
 
iguanaman said:
You're afraid that if you look you will realize how foolish you appear. Got it. Not only is it a lie but you are making a mountain out of an anthill. It really is pathetic.



https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/06/561587174/the-alternative-russia-scandal
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You see, this is EXACTLY why your folks use of your go to sources ARE NOT, CANNOT, be trusted.

1. Is Uranium a national security asset? Yes.

2. As such, does our control of this necessary national security aset need to remain under US control? Or, as your side constantly, is unfettered to unhinged in its clamorous manner always asserting to the point of drving us into a war, or should it have been handed over to our ostensible arch- ENEMIES...the ( shudder) Russians and the evil of evil, Putin?

3. The huge amount of money happening to fall into Clinton Foundation coffers, timing of BJs trips to Russia, who he met with and his receiving double his already high speaking fees by those connected to the deal...is certainly, at best, highly questionable

4. That we have an American patriot ex-lobbyist who witnessed all this who has come forward with douments, tapes etc... even under an unprescedented gag order placed on him by the Justice Dept so he could not speak out.

5. The FBI (under guess who? coinky-dink of co-inky-dinks, now Special Counsel, the Muel) never informed CFIUS that all this was under investigation...add that we would never have known about ANY of this had the fat lady been elected.

6. It matters not at all if ANY uranium ever went to RUSSIA, that is a red herring, NONE of it was ever supposed to be exported ANYWHERE at all. And it was. I dont think, as we lost control of it, we know where all of it went...cannot be ruled out yet that it did not go to OTHER US ENEMIES.

7. The actual amount is ALSO inconsequential. It like going in to rob a bank and only running out with a dollar fifty...amount doesnt matter, its the bank robbery that is the problem.

7. As the US has little of the world market in this precious listed NATIONAL SECURITY ASSET...is it smart, or beyond traitorous, to give control of that to our nations enemies?

8. This from Snopes (so you just might believe it) https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

Updated [17 October 2017]: Added synopsis of new reportage by The Hill.
Updated [1 November 2017]: Added clarifications, more sources, and the announcement of a congressional investigation.
Correction [16 November 2017]: Previous versions of this article incorrectly stated that no Uranium One-produced uranium had been exported to foreign countries.

I rest my, at this point, still unresolved, but ONGOING, case.

VERDICT : NOT DEBUNKED
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
You see, this is EXACTLY why your folks use of your go to sources ARE NOT, CANNOT, be trusted.

1. Is Uranium a national security asset? Yes.

2. As such, does our control of this necessary national security aset need to remain under US control? Or, as your side constantly, is unfettered to unhinged in its clamorous manner always asserting to the point of drving us into a war, or should it have been handed over to our ostensible arch- ENEMIES...the ( shudder) Russians and the evil of evil, Putin?

3. The huge amount of money happening to fall into Clinton Foundation coffers, timing of BJs trips to Russia, who he met with and his receiving double his already high speaking fees by those connected to the deal...is certainly, at best, highly questionable

4. That we have an American patriot ex-lobbyist who witnessed all this who has come forward with douments, tapes etc... even under an unprescedented gag order placed on him by the Justice Dept so he could not speak out.

5. The FBI (under guess who? coinky-dink of co-inky-dinks, now Special Counsel, the Muel) never informed CFIUS that all this was under investigation...add that we would never have known about ANY of this had the fat lady been elected.

6. It matters not at all if ANY uranium ever went to RUSSIA, that is a red herring, NONE of it was ever supposed to be exported ANYWHERE at all. And it was. I dont think, as we lost control of it, we know where all of it went...cannot be ruled out yet that it did not go to OTHER US ENEMIES.

7. The actual amount is ALSO inconsequential. It like going in to rob a bank and only running out with a dollar fifty...amount doesnt matter, its the bank robbery that is the problem.

7. As the US has little of the world market in this precious listed NATIONAL SECURITY ASSET...is it smart, or beyond traitorous, to give control of that to our nations enemies?

8. This from Snopes (so you just might believe it) https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

Updated [17 October 2017]: Added synopsis of new reportage by The Hill.
Updated [1 November 2017]: Added clarifications, more sources, and the announcement of a congressional investigation.
Correction [16 November 2017]: Previous versions of this article incorrectly stated that no Uranium One-produced uranium had been exported to foreign countries.

I rest my, at this point, still unresolved, but ONGOING, case.

VERDICT : NOT DEBUNKED
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Actually it was debunked, in many ways. But let's start with the easy one, this was never Hillary's decision to make. Her signature/agreement was just one of many who all agreed to this deal even though they had no links with the Clinton foundation.

Also there is no evidence that Hillary Clinton intervened on Russia one's behalf in her own department because:

Hillary Clinton has said she delegated the approval decision to a deputy on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) and did not apply any pressure.

Which would mean that were no decision on this made by Clinton but the the CFIUS. Now the CFIUS is made up from:

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

Department of the Treasury (chair)
Department of Justice
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of State
Department of Energy
Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

Office of Management & Budget
Council of Economic Advisors
National Security Council
National Economic Council
Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.
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Those people decided that deal, not Cllnton and I am pretty sure she could not browbeat all of those members into approving a deal they did not want to approve. And then again, 8 other signatures/approvals were needed before this deal could go through.

Also, while some uranium was exported, it was true at the moment of the agreement that it could not be exported. The chance to do that was when the firm owning Uranium One was removed from a list banning them from exporting such goods. And even then it was only approved for export to allies like Canada and one shipment to Europe for enrichment.

And that decision was made by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, an independent agency which Clinton also could not control.

None of this even smells as something suspicious to those not absolutely predisposed of rehashing the 2016 presidential campaign.
 
dobieg said:
Again, this is all they had to say about the $145 million the Clinton Foundation received from multiple Uranium One executives.

But there is no evidence that the donations or the speaking fee had any influence on the approvals granted by the NRC or the Committee on Foreign Investments.
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Yeah, ok. There is no DIRECT evidence but $145 million sure is more than a little bit suspicious.
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And the donors didn't own the company when the donations were made.
There is no indication that Giustra was contemplating any transaction with Russian interests at the time he began donating to the Clinton Foundation in 2005; rather, he sold UrAsia Energy to Uranium One, a Canadian company, in 2007. That sale was completed two months before he made his pledges to the Clinton Foundation.
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bubbabgone said:
again ... in what way was it debunked?
Saladin4 doesn't count as a source but you can explain what you think constitutes its debunking.
If you have nothing don't bother responding.
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Saladin4 said:
I don't go to Alex Jones conspiracy web sites.....Like apparently you do
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That settles it.
You have no knowledge about the subject at hand and you insist on demonstrating it.
Call when you want to be serious.
 
Peter King said:
And debunked, and more debunked and even further debunked. Sadly it seems some Trump supporters need one/two/three/hell one thousands more whines and digs at someone who is no longer a presidential candidate and who will not run against him in 2020.
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Sounds like you may be able to explain the details of the debunking so ... what are the details of the debunking?
(note: a Shepard Smith video is not an acceptable source)
 
biglawnmower said:
america made him president. while you hillary lovers cried at the outcome. enjoy more trump :)
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No, the Electoral College made Trump president.

America wanted Hillary.......by 3,000,000 votes
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
You see, this is EXACTLY why your folks use of your go to sources ARE NOT, CANNOT, be trusted.

1. Is Uranium a national security asset? Yes.

2. As such, does our control of this necessary national security aset need to remain under US control? Or, as your side constantly, is unfettered to unhinged in its clamorous manner always asserting to the point of drving us into a war, or should it have been handed over to our ostensible arch- ENEMIES...the ( shudder) Russians and the evil of evil, Putin?

3. The huge amount of money happening to fall into Clinton Foundation coffers, timing of BJs trips to Russia, who he met with and his receiving double his already high speaking fees by those connected to the deal...is certainly, at best, highly questionable

4. That we have an American patriot ex-lobbyist who witnessed all this who has come forward with douments, tapes etc... even under an unprescedented gag order placed on him by the Justice Dept so he could not speak out.

5. The FBI (under guess who? coinky-dink of co-inky-dinks, now Special Counsel, the Muel) never informed CFIUS that all this was under investigation...add that we would never have known about ANY of this had the fat lady been elected.

6. It matters not at all if ANY uranium ever went to RUSSIA, that is a red herring, NONE of it was ever supposed to be exported ANYWHERE at all. And it was. I dont think, as we lost control of it, we know where all of it went...cannot be ruled out yet that it did not go to OTHER US ENEMIES.

7. The actual amount is ALSO inconsequential. It like going in to rob a bank and only running out with a dollar fifty...amount doesnt matter, its the bank robbery that is the problem.

7. As the US has little of the world market in this precious listed NATIONAL SECURITY ASSET...is it smart, or beyond traitorous, to give control of that to our nations enemies?

8. This from Snopes (so you just might believe it) https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

Updated [17 October 2017]: Added synopsis of new reportage by The Hill.
Updated [1 November 2017]: Added clarifications, more sources, and the announcement of a congressional investigation.
Correction [16 November 2017]: Previous versions of this article incorrectly stated that no Uranium One-produced uranium had been exported to foreign countries.

I rest my, at this point, still unresolved, but ONGOING, case.

VERDICT : NOT DEBUNKED
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LOL Uranium one was NEVER an American asset security or otherwise. It belonged to a CANADIAN Company before ti was sold to Russia. Verdict: You have no clue.
 
Peter King said:
Actually it was debunked, in many ways. But let's start with the easy one, this was never Hillary's decision to make. Her signature/agreement was just one of many who all agreed to this deal even though they had no links with the Clinton foundation.

Also there is no evidence that Hillary Clinton intervened on Russia one's behalf in her own department because:

Hillary Clinton has said she delegated the approval decision to a deputy on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) and did not apply any pressure.
Which would mean that were no decision on this made by Clinton but the the CFIUS. Now the CFIUS is made up from:



Those people decided that deal, not Cllnton and I am pretty sure she could not browbeat all of those members into approving a deal they did not want to approve. And then again, 8 other signatures/approvals were needed before this deal could go through.

Snip.

And that decision was made by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, an independent agency which Clinton also could not control.

Snip.
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Can you actually read and process?

First of all, being debunked "in many ways" doesnt mean debunked in all ways.

Was any of this CFIUS group informed of the ongoing FBI Investigation regarding the shady Clintoms dealings with "Russians"? Which of these names you put up (I have asked this in thread before, unanswered, so please keep up) are not Slenderman appointees? Which of this other group that "observed"? If Hillary, the main lead of all these names, as SoS did not object the others, follower appointees, would/DID rubber stamp these transactions...especially as they had no knowledge of the investigation into nefarious dealings.

And its laughable that we are supposed to take the fat lady's word that she did nothing, by ommission or commission, to influence this deal? After shes lied to congress, broken multiple national security and FOIA statutes, etc etc on and on...

Must not teach critical thinking in your schools over there.

She doesnt have to browbeat, just not oppose and THEY followed. Republicans tried to block this...https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/5/4-gop-leaders-warn-of-uranium-mine-sale/

Which administration stealthily removed the restrictions o n export?
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show

No uranium produced at either facility may be exported,” the NRC declared in a November 2010 press release that announced that ARMZ, a subsidiary of the Russian state-owned Rosatom, had been approved to take ownership of the Uranium One mining firm and its American assets.

...
The NRC never issued an export license to the Russian firm, a fact so engrained in the narrative of the Uranium One controversy that it showed up in The Washington Post’s official fact-checker site this week. “We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license, which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.

Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show.

Snip...

Rather than give Rosatom a direct export license — which would have raised red flags inside a Congress already suspicious of the deal — the NRC in 2012 authorized an amendment to an existing export license for a Paducah, Ky.-based trucking firm called RSB Logistics Services Inc. to simply add Uranium One to the list of clients whose uranium it could move to Canada.

The license, reviewed by The Hill, is dated March 16, 2012, and it increased the amount of uranium ore concentrate that RSB Logistics could ship to the Cameco Corp. plant in Ontario from 7,500,000 kilograms to 12,000,000 kilograms and added Uranium One to the “other parties to Export.”

The move escaped notice in Congress.
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but everyone in the executive branch went along. Coincidence, eh? The whole slenderman misadministration along the top tiers is now exposed as being totally corrupt, muchless putting American ntetests first.

So...

Go stick your head into your OWN country's business/problems... and th EU, its not like y'all havent enough problems of your own to solve....and dont be trying to tell ME what is suspicious or not.

Fact is, UNDENIABLE, the investigations are ongoing.
 
iguanaman said:
LOL Uranium one was NEVER an American asset security or otherwise. It belonged to a CANADIAN Company before ti was sold to Russia. Verdict: You have no clue.
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Jesus, thats about the most unconscious ill informed statement (after being informed) I have seen yet on site...and theres certainly lots of competition from your side.
 
Emwu said:
The Uranium One scandal saw major U.S. and foreign #uranium mines passed to Russia. Millions of dollars made their way to the Clinton Foundation from individuals tied to the deal, as then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton helped approve the sale to Russia on the government side. This also made the United States increasingly reliant on Russia for nuclear energy, despite U.S. intelligence warnings that Russia was attempting to exert foreign influence by controlling energy markets.

Inforgraphic: https://www.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2018/02/09/EPOCH_TIMES_URANIUM_ONE_FINAL.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPmEwwJNI8
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Jesus ****ing christ, you people are a joke, just keep bringing out this dumb deflections. This forum is just full of the dumbest trolls
 
OscarLevant said:
No, the Electoral College made Trump president.

America wanted Hillary.......by 3,000,000 votes
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lol!!

the electoral college is the only way to be president. the popularity contest, or the kim kardashian affect, means nothing. lol "popular vote". what is this, high school?

you can only be president by winning the electoral vote and hildabeast got CRUSHED in it.
 
biglawnmower said:
lol!!

the electoral college is the only way to be president. the popularity contest, or the kim kardashian affect, means nothing. lol "popular vote". what is this, high school?

you can only be president by winning the electoral vote and hildabeast got CRUSHED in it.
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I wasn't debating how the president is elected I was pointing out that the president doesn't have the will of the people given that Hillary had 3 million more votes.

clearly the will of the people was with Hillary

No Trump won fewer Electoral College votes than most presidents who won the Electoral College that does not constitute Crush
 
OscarLevant said:
I wasn't debating how the president is elected I was pointing out that the president doesn't have the will of the people given that Hillary had 3 million more votes.

clearly the will of the people was with Hillary
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no, she had the will of california where she spent her whole time campaigning and in her book regrets.

the will of the people elected the president. all 50 states of us. very proud of our state for voting trump. it was the will of our people that won him this massive win over the criminal clinton.

wonder who shes blaming today for her horrible loss
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Can you actually read and process?

First of all, being debunked "in many ways" doesnt mean debunked in all ways.

Was any of this CFIUS group informed of the ongoing FBI Investigation regarding the shady Clintoms dealings with "Russians"? Which of these names you put up (I have asked this in thread before, unanswered, so please keep up) are not Slenderman appointees? Which of this other group that "observed"? If Hillary, the main lead of all these names, as SoS did not object the others, follower appointees, would/DID rubber stamp these transactions...especially as they had no knowledge of the investigation into nefarious dealings.

And its laughable that we are supposed to take the fat lady's word that she did nothing, by ommission or commission, to influence this deal? After shes lied to congress, broken multiple national security and FOIA statutes, etc etc on and on...

Must not teach critical thinking in your schools over there.

She doesnt have to browbeat, just not oppose and THEY followed. Republicans tried to block this...https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/5/4-gop-leaders-warn-of-uranium-mine-sale/

Which administration stealthily removed the restrictions o n export?
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show



but everyone in the executive branch went along. Coincidence, eh? The whole slenderman misadministration along the top tiers is now exposed as being totally corrupt, muchless putting American ntetests first.

So...

Go stick your head into your OWN country's business/problems... and th EU, its not like y'all havent enough problems of your own to solve....and dont be trying to tell ME what is suspicious or not.

Fact is, UNDENIABLE, the investigations are ongoing.
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The only fact is that sore winners like Trump and his supporters are still waging war on Hillary Clinton for no reason. And as Clinton did not influence the decision by the CFIUS nor was she the only signature in this deal, all you are doing is whining about nothing.
 
biglawnmower said:
lol!!

the electoral college is the only way to be president. the popularity contest, or the kim kardashian affect, means nothing. lol "popular vote". what is this, high school?

you can only be president by winning the electoral vote and hildabeast got CRUSHED in it.
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Of the 14 presidential elections with 538 electoral voes, four were decided by fewer electoral votes.

Of all 58 presidential elections under the EC, Trump’s percentage of EVs was 46th.

By no comparative measure did Trump “crush” anyone.
 
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