Trying to resign myself to the idea of Trump being re-elected

[bradt99]

it's scary to consider that someone who committed impeachable offenses confirmed by himself and multiple primary and secondary sources might skate by and continue as CiC. if the Democrats can't operate in an environment this fertile, then their entire leadership needs to step down immediately. it's partially their fault that this debacle happened in the first place. they need a team which can compete with the kind of Machiavellian minds which gerrymandered most of the country and successfully installed a panting moron using foreign interference and every other means at their disposal. if current Democrats can't play on that field, then it's time for a new coach and staff.

I don't know maybe it's because democrats have lost touch with the poor and working class of this country. They passed NAFTA which destroyed industry in the midwest and in turn that cost them their jobs.

 

[bradt99]

I'm seeing a lot of that resignation to the inevitable.

More and more on the left are realizing Trump bad is not a good campaign slogan.

Didn't they campaign on that in 2016 too? lol.

 

[Paradoxical]

If he was just a bad president, it wouldn't be *that* bad. The issue is he's corrupt, and the Republican party while corrupt, has really embraced corruption under Trump's leadership.
It's that corruption that makes it harder to root out later...makes it easier for corruption to spread more and more. That's the real danger IMO.

Now that facts are no longer valued, reason is replaced by propaganda, and bad actors like Russia who routinely use their money to corrupt found or gates wide open under Trump, it's a dangerous time.
We would not likely see calamity immediately, but if it's not rooted out and repaired, it will be magnified each cycle.

Look at authoritarian/single party rule around the world. China, Russia... you see them un-corrupting their government and ushering in a fair and free government any time soon? They have done everything they can to ensure it can never happen. Kill opponents, surveillance, use justice system to keep opponents out, gain strength by corrupting others and freeing them from prosecution, disinformation, etc.

Democracy is a fragile thing, and it will be destroyed for petty $$$ without hesitation by many in our society if they are allowed to.

Watch out for those Twitter, Facebook and Instagram posts around election time. Remember, any post you see where Trump is praised and your stellar nominee Corey Booker is denigrated is from a Russian operative. I might as well tell all of you right now that I am a Russian agent. I came in here a few weeks ago on order of the Kremlin and Putin himself to sow seeds of doubt into the feeble brains of leftists and progressives so that when you go to the voting booth you will be confused and disoriented and punch the wrong person and not realize it.

I did it in 2016 and will do it again in 2020. Watch out for Russian agents like me and many other operatives messing with your brain and forcing you to pull the wrong trigger. Vladimir knows how week the leftist/progressives are in America and is trying to sow dissent. I know that you all think that this is a joke post and a real Russian agent would never warn people. This is exactly what Donald Trump and his good buddy utin want you to think so you will be caught by surprise.

Donald Trump approves of this message

 

[smallvoice]

I'm kinda hoping Trump's re-election will break them, and they'll become docile and resigned.

I imagine that once he is re-elected and the voice of the American people has exonerated him, the Dims will decide that maybe their best approach is to actually do what whey were elected to do - Legislate, not investigate.

 

[humbolt]

Take a deep breath, it will be ok.

She could be hyperventilating. My heat pump may have done that once, too. Not sure. But she may need a paper bag. She's over O2'd. Try some helium.

 

[jimbo]

there is no way that our allies are sharing all their intel with us like they did before.

i hope that works out for us.

As always, they'll share it when it serves their interest.

The difference now is we'll get something in return.

 

[trixare4kids]

Tens of millions of Americans are indeed stupid enough to re-elect Trump.

It can definitely happen.

Then, tens of millions of Americans who are stupid enough to stress out over a presidential election will have to get over themselves. Won't they and furthermore, why haven't they already?

 

[lemmiwinx]

If you want to be the new boss you have to beat the old boss. Trump's the old boss and nobody from the other side's getting near him so far.

 

[Paradoxical]

No, we will not withstand 4 more years of this maniacal traitor. We're already losing the Constitution forever in bits and pieces, slowly. But with another 4 years it will dissolve very quickly. The people that will notice it first are the poor. They're already suffering under the cutbacks with the SNAP program. For a family of three to qualify, their gross monthly income cannot exceed $2,300. What counts as income? SNAP counts cash income from all sources, including earned income (before payroll taxes are deducted) and unearned income, such as cash assistance, Social Security, unemployment insurance, and child support. Does anyone believe that a family of 3 living just barely over the 130% poverty line can survive without assistance if they don't qualify for SNAP?

But wait, there's more. Enter 2021 with Trump in his second term. More bad news is going to come for the poorest, sickest, and oldest Americans in this country with cuts to Medicaid, Medicare, and eventually S.S. too. Don't say it's not going to happen, it's already starting to happen, and those entitlements are top priorities on the slash list for Republicans.

They can get a second job. They can go to night school. They can stop being leeches and societal parasites.

 

[3leftsdoo]

Trying to resign myself to the idea of Trump being re-elected ... like I tried to resign myself to him being elected the first time.

I ask "how bad can it be?"

Surely America is strong enough to survive four more years under assault even if the person committing the assault is president. Surely he can't be much worse than he already has been. Right?

But I keep coming back to the fact that the disregard he has shown for laws, ethics, decency and traditional American values has happened when he still needed to be on good enough behavior to get reelected, and when he still had people in his administration who had dedicated their life to serving the country.

He has cleaned house of people who were capable of giving him good advice.

A reelected Trump would be completely untethered.

I know it's going to be incredibly rough - like living as a hunted individual in Nazi Germany. except not like that at all - but you can always give all the money you've made in the Trump Economy to charity, so that may offer some solace to you.

:thumbs:

 

[jimbo]

Didn't they campaign on that in 2016 too? lol.

They did.

The left are slow learners.

 

[Airyaman]

Trump is in his 70s, his kids are dumber than he is and with much less charisma, and he might face indictment should he not be re-elected.

Nothing to be concerned about here.

Nothing at all.

 

[smallvoice]

Oh, have you bought a newer car or anything like that since your money has grown? I'm happy for you.

I already have four Jaguars to drive and a Lexus to go grocery shopping in. I don't need another car. A Yacht might be in my future. <sarc>

 

[CaughtInThe]

As always, they'll share it when it serves their interest.

The difference now is we'll get something in return.

yeah, that's not true. we have a loudmouth as a president so leaders of other countries, when they're not laughing at him, are pulling back from sharing intel because they know they can't trust our President.

you'd have to be an idiot to trust him. those leaders aren't idiots. heck, even lowly North Korea played us.

 

[Jay59]

A progressive worrying about "traditional American values" ???

There is nothing wrong with that. The Democrats were once a party that believed in family and hard work. While thr party long ago moved away from such things, the ideas linger in the constituency.

If he was just a bad president, it wouldn't be *that* bad. The issue is he's corrupt, and the Republican party while corrupt, has really embraced corruption under Trump's leadership. It's that corruption that makes it harder to root out later...makes it easier for corruption to spread more and more. That's the real danger IMO.

Now that facts are no longer valued, reason is replaced by propaganda, and bad actors like Russia who routinely use their money to corrupt found or gates wide open under Trump, it's a dangerous time. We would not likely see calamity immediately, but if it's not rooted out and repaired, it will be magnified each cycle.

Look at authoritarian/single party rule around the world. China, Russia... you see them un-corrupting their government and ushering in a fair and free government any time soon? They have done everything they can to ensure it can never happen. Kill opponents, surveillance, use justice system to keep opponents out, gain strength by corrupting others and freeing them from prosecution, disinformation, etc.

Democracy is a fragile thing, and it will be destroyed for petty $$$ without hesitation by many in our society if they are allowed to.

So you are willing to demonize a capable President and savage the Constitution to get rid of him. You don't get the irony that Democrats are using surveillance, use justice system to keep opponents out, gain strength by corrupting others and freeing them from prosecution, disinformation, etc.

It is beginning to look like it will not just be a reelection, but a repudiation of the Democrats.

 

[bradt99]

I already have four Jaguars to drive and a Lexus to go grocery shopping in. I don't need another car. A Yacht might be in my future. <sarc>

Ahh well may you ccan find a good preowned one

 

[bradt99]

Ahh well may you ccan find a good preowned one

My uncle had a houseboat which he kept at a marina, it was a 1975 model I think, but he enjoyed it and did a lot of work on it.

 

[PLizzy]

Trying to resign myself to the idea of Trump being re-elected ... like I tried to resign myself to him being elected the first time.

I ask "how bad can it be?"

Surely America is strong enough to survive four more years under assault even if the person committing the assault is president. Surely he can't be much worse than he already has been. Right?

But I keep coming back to the fact that the disregard he has shown for laws, ethics, decency and traditional American values has happened when he still needed to be on good enough behavior to get reelected, and when he still had people in his administration who had dedicated their life to serving the country.

He has cleaned house of people who were capable of giving him good advice.

A reelected Trump would be completely untethered.

Here's an idea: don't consider failure an option.

You know all of the trolling of "liberal tears! yuck, yuck, yuck!" that rub your nose in Trump previous victory? Remember it and use it as motivation to remind others, who don't agree with Trump's behavior that they too must vote next year.

Let's win the next election and rub conservatives noses in it, just like they do us.

 

[Paradoxical]

Tens of millions of Americans are indeed stupid enough to re-elect Trump.

It can definitely happen.

I am going to become a zillionaire. As we speak, I am stocking up on comfort dogs and teddy bears and those plastic snowflakes. When he wins again by a landslide in 2020, I will rake in the dough. I will have all sorts of other things to make it easier for leftists/progressives/socialists to be able to deal with their pain and anguish. Things like paprika to make people stop biting their nails. Jackets for their comfort dogs because it will be snowing bigly snowflakes. Pretty clothing for their teddy bears. Padding for college dorm comfort rooms or bedrooms. I will be helping humanity while I make money and prove capitalism works, much to the chagrin of the affected progressive socialists

 

[Perotista]

Trying to resign myself to the idea of Trump being re-elected ... like I tried to resign myself to him being elected the first time.

I ask "how bad can it be?"

Surely America is strong enough to survive four more years under assault even if the person committing the assault is president. Surely he can't be much worse than he already has been. Right?

But I keep coming back to the fact that the disregard he has shown for laws, ethics, decency and traditional American values has happened when he still needed to be on good enough behavior to get reelected, and when he still had people in his administration who had dedicated their life to serving the country.

He has cleaned house of people who were capable of giving him good advice.

A reelected Trump would be completely untethered.

LOL, after the GOP New Hampshire primary when it became evident Trump would be the Republican nominee, I resigned myself to a Hillary Clinton presidency. I just knew the Republicans blew it big time with Trump. So you're not the only one who resigns themselves. For me 2016 was a good news, bad news election. The good news, Hillary lost. The bad news, Trump won. I cursed both major parties for giving us the choices they did. I took the only option available, I voted third party, against both Trump and Clinton.

The democrats should win in 2020, but then again, they should have won in 2016. They would have with a decent candidate, one not so lazy, one who didn't have such an inept campaign strategy. The trick to winning in 2020 is to nominate a candidate attractive to the independent voter. Hillary wasn't, Trump won the independent vote and thus the white house. The ball is in the Democrats hands, who they hand that ball to will determine the fate of the 2020 election.

 

[smallvoice]

yeah, that's not true. we have a loudmouth as a president so leaders of other countries, when they're not laughing at him, are pulling back from sharing intel because they know they can't trust our President.

you'd have to be an idiot to trust him. those leaders aren't idiots. heck, even lowly North Korea played us.

You really should wean yourself from MSNBC and find more reliable news sources. Those leaders aren't idiots. They have been 'playing' our idiots for the past 20 years, but they can see that that isn't working for them.

 

[trixare4kids]

If you want to be the new boss you have to beat the old boss. Trump's the old boss and nobody from the other side's getting near him so far.

The polls say Trump is losing, but until the fat lady sings, and the very last vote is counted after Nov. 3, 2020, I won't believe it.
Hell, I could hardly believe he won in 2016 because of what the polls were saying prior to the election.

 

[Helix]

I don't know maybe it's because democrats have lost touch with the poor and working class of this country. They passed NAFTA which destroyed industry in the midwest and in turn that cost them their jobs.

NAFTA was a bad idea. however, Mexico is hardly the biggest threat to jobs. right to work for less / gutting unions, fire at will, automation, and globalization are much bigger obstacles for workers.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Trying to resign myself to the idea of Trump being re-elected ... like I tried to resign myself to him being elected the first time.

I ask "how bad can it be?"

Surely America is strong enough to survive four more years under assault even if the person committing the assault is president. Surely he can't be much worse than he already has been. Right?

But I keep coming back to the fact that the disregard he has shown for laws, ethics, decency and traditional American values has happened when he still needed to be on good enough behavior to get reelected, and when he still had people in his administration who had dedicated their life to serving the country.

He has cleaned house of people who were capable of giving him good advice.

A reelected Trump would be completely untethered.

We are electing a House and Senate, too.
Job #1 is to sweep majorities into the House and Senate, hobble the orange dictator.
And if we're lucky and do our duty, he's gone, too.

 

[CaughtInThe]

You really should wean yourself from MSNBC and find more reliable news sources. Those leaders aren't idiots. They have been 'playing' our idiots for the past 20 years, but they can see that that isn't working for them.

are you really not able to see what Trump really is?

of course it doesn't matter. foreign leaders all have opinions of American Presidents. some i'm sure they trust. some not at all. just like when our leaders deal with different foreign leaders. we didn't deal with Thatcher the same as Gordon Brown or Chamberlain.

but i really don't expect current Trump supporters to understand that. he conned them so easily they aren't gonna understand global politics and or international relationships (and how they change and evolve).