Trying to resign myself to the idea of Trump being re-elected

[Luckyone]

Is this the fault of Trump or is the fault of a media looking for ratings? Do you know why newspapers and TV shows that try to report "good" news fail? It's because that doesn't sell and CNN and MSNBS know it. Jeff Zucker himself said to do impeachment 24/7. This is where the money is at. Thus, you can hardly blame Trump for the 24.7 hate news.

It is Trump's fault. He is the one that does things that gives the media something to sell. What Trump does is so against what all of us live for it gives the media "fodder" for 24.7 news!

We had an appeaser and apologist in office for 8 years. Did that make us better or more prosperous? I don't see how. You appear to be a model citizen and while that is laudable, you really expect that in real life, others are supposed to march to the beat of your drum? You don't like brashness, boldness, hubris, toughness, braggadocio? Sorry to say but we live in an evil world and we need a leader who has some of those traits. We don't elect priests and counselors to be presidents.We elect hard nosed negotiators who look out for OUR interests and not for the world. This was Obama's problem. He thought he was a "world" leader. Trump is content with being president of AMERICA.

First of all, Obama uplifted all that listened to him. He was a believer in humankind and that was always a positive. Appeaser? perhaps, but then again is what we all should do when we do wrong. It is what makes us be better people as we try to prevent having to be an appeaser. Truth is truth and good and bad should be in the open.

Give me some examples of what he has done while in office that is evil?

I did that clearly in the other post. If you can't read well it is not my problem.

This is hogwash. The separations were minimal and temporary and in many cases the kids came here unaccompanied. Besides, much of this was under Obama anyway and blamed on Trump.

Untrue because the amount of caring under Obama was much greater than under Trump. Trump stimulates people to be cruel while Obama was the opposite, all based on following the law. Case in point is the increase of hate mass killings under Trump.


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Only because he is a conservative president and doesn't comport to your idealistic and unworkable world view where all countries just get along and there is no crime or poverty throughout the entire planet.

The world is what it is because people are what they are. Trump is not going to change that. Under Obama, people tried to be better. Under Trump, people don't given that Trump is proving that there is no accountability to breaking the law or not following the Constitution

 

[Paradoxical]

I will only respond to one commenr which is the final one you made. There is NOTHING, ZIP, NADA, ZILCH that says Trump committed any crimes or broke any laws and EVERY person that has testified to date has agreed with this.

Your three stooges constitutional "scholars" invented "Abuse of Power" which basically is what they say it is. And based on what they say it is, we could have impeached Obama several times because we thought he was doing something we didn't like and just named it "abuse of power".

 

[Mr Person]

A progressive worrying about "traditional American values" ???

If it amazes you it is merely because a tremendous portion of the right has spent decades dishonestly claiming to respect values it pisses all over every chance it gets. These days you are pissing on values simply because it might annoy a liberal somewhere.

 

[Court Jester]

If he was just a bad president, it wouldn't be *that* bad. The issue is he's corrupt, and the Republican party while corrupt, has really embraced corruption under Trump's leadership.
It's that corruption that makes it harder to root out later...makes it easier for corruption to spread more and more. That's the real danger IMO.

Now that facts are no longer valued, reason is replaced by propaganda, and bad actors like Russia who routinely use their money to corrupt found or gates wide open under Trump, it's a dangerous time.
We would not likely see calamity immediately, but if it's not rooted out and repaired, it will be magnified each cycle.

Look at authoritarian/single party rule around the world. China, Russia... you see them un-corrupting their government and ushering in a fair and free government any time soon? They have done everything they can to ensure it can never happen. Kill opponents, surveillance, use justice system to keep opponents out, gain strength by corrupting others and freeing them from prosecution, disinformation, etc.

Democracy is a fragile thing, and it will be destroyed for petty $$$ without hesitation by many in our society if they are allowed to.

Actually you have it all wrong. BOTH parties are corrupt, it's just that the democrats are way more corrupt than the Republicans.

Nothing is more corrupt than socialism. Stealing the hard earned money from fellow Americans.

 

[americanwoman]

Actually you have it all wrong. BOTH parties are corrupt, it's just that the democrats are way more corrupt than the Republicans.

Nothing is more corrupt than socialism. Stealing the hard earned money from fellow Americans.

Dang, you should go to those corporate farms that Trump bailed out and demand your money back!

 

[Mach]

Actually you have it all wrong. BOTH parties are corrupt, it's just that the democrats are way more corrupt than the Republicans.
Nothing is more corrupt than socialism. Stealing the hard earned money from fellow Americans.

Oh stop trying to deny reality like the rest of them. That "both sides" nonsense means you can't debate it.
Both sides have had at least one criminal conviction per administration in the last 50 years.

Republicans had 89
Democrats had 1

You'd like to portray them as similar...as would any crook...look over here..look at those other bad people...everyone does it....corrupt even in discourse.

 

[Fishking]

How about by President and Commander in Chief with integrity and empathy. How about somebody that works diligently for the nation instead of himself.

nah, I mean just look, unemployment is great and america is retreating around the world and look at all those unqualified lifetime judge appointments, not to mention all the cash being generated for Trump Inc. Boy what Greatness.

What good is that if their policies suck? Also, your comment about unqualified judges makes me question whether to take you seriously or not. So far as Trump Inc making money, Trump has lost a lot of money since becoming President. You need to get your facts straight.

 

[Jonsa]

What good is that if their policies suck? Also, your comment about unqualified judges makes me question whether to take you seriously or not. So far as Trump Inc making money, Trump has lost a lot of money since becoming President. You need to get your facts straight.

Even if their policies suck at least they preserve the integrity of the office.

If you have a problem with the record number of unqualified judges being appoint, take it up with the American Bar Association who issues the ratings. But don't take me seriously because you don't want to believe facts.

As for losing money, so what? He's still taking in millions of taxpayer dollars. He's still taking in millions from foreign governments, partisans and special interests. EMOLUMENTS.

He's a lying fraud artist and cheat. But I guess his policies excuse his unfitness to serve.

And trump losing money around the world is not t

 

[poweRob]

Trying to resign myself to the idea of Trump being re-elected ... like I tried to resign myself to him being elected the first time.

I ask "how bad can it be?"

Surely America is strong enough to survive four more years under assault even if the person committing the assault is president. Surely he can't be much worse than he already has been. Right?

But I keep coming back to the fact that the disregard he has shown for laws, ethics, decency and traditional American values has happened when he still needed to be on good enough behavior to get reelected, and when he still had people in his administration who had dedicated their life to serving the country.

He has cleaned house of people who were capable of giving him good advice.

A reelected Trump would be completely untethered.

I see you are taking the "Keep expectations low that way you'll always meet them" approach. I understand why.

 

[Fishking]

Even if their policies suck at least they preserve the integrity of the office.

If you have a problem with the record number of unqualified judges being appoint, take it up with the American Bar Association who issues the ratings. But don't take me seriously because you don't want to believe facts.

As for losing money, so what? He's still taking in millions of taxpayer dollars. He's still taking in millions from foreign governments, partisans and special interests. EMOLUMENTS.

He's a lying fraud artist and cheat. But I guess his policies excuse his unfitness to serve.

And trump losing money around the world is not t

You need to unplug. Your facts are wrong, your logic skewed, and your ability to reason rationally is defunct.

 

[Jonsa]

You need to unplug. Your facts are wrong, your logic skewed, and your ability to reason rationally is defunct.

my facts are correct.
I totally understand why you dont' want to accept what the American Bar Association has to say about the judges nominated for life time appointment.

And as for my ability to reason (fyi, using rationally is redundant) is more than up to the task of dealing with your bull****.

 

[Fishking]

my facts are correct.
I totally understand why you dont' want to accept what the American Bar Association has to say about the judges nominated for life time appointment.

And as for my ability to reason (fyi, using rationally is redundant) is more than up to the task of dealing with your bull****.

No, it's not redundant. You continue to be wrong. It's getting sad now.

 

[Eriech]

Not wanting to wish a year away but I cannot wait to be here come next November. It is going to be beautifully UGLY! Maxine will be impeach the MFer again.

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