Trump Walks Out of Border Talks, Calls Them ‘Total Waste of Time’

[tres borrachos]

Well that's...silly.
I see how much you hate Trump. Its rather obvious actually.
So much so, that you'd forsake the security and safety of Americans, just so you can oppose Trump.

And I see how much you love Trump. It's rather obvious actually.

Creepy, but if it makes you happy, I'll support your crush.

 

[Buzz62]

sanctuary cities are nothing other than communities that refuse to use their tax dollars to subsidize the federal obligation to deal with illegal immigration

Which is illegal IMO, and puts the security of illegals ahead of the security of the nation.

 

[Buzz62]

And I see how much you love Trump. It's rather obvious actually.

Creepy, but if it makes you happy, I'll support your crush.

Actually I've said many times that I'm not a huge Trump fan.
But I'm also not a simpleton who engages in group-think and bald-faced hatred of the democratically elected POTUS.
You want "creepy"? Watch CNN carry on for an hour.

 

[tres borrachos]

Actually I've said many times that I'm not a huge Trump fan.
But I'm also not a simpleton who engages in group-think and bald-faced hatred of the democratically elected POTUS.
You want "creepy"? Watch CNN carry on for an hour.

Nonsense. If I hate Trump, then you love him.

Wo said you were a simpleton? And who said the current President of the United States was not democratically elected? Not me. Why do you constantly go off topic?

Nice deflection to CNN. The "Bias in the Media" section, where you can tinkle in your panties about CNN, is that way ------------------->

 

[Buzz62]

Nonsense. If I hate Trump, then you love him.

Wo said you were a simpleton? And who said the current President of the United States was not democratically elected? Not me. Why do you constantly go off topic?

Nice deflection to CNN. The "Bias in the Media" section, where you can tinkle in your panties about CNN, is that way ------------------->

Nonsense huh?
2+ years of the Trump Inquisition. Do you support this witch hunt? I believe you do.
The claim that Trump is a racist, and that his response to Charlottesville prove that. Do you support this supposition? I believe you do.
The claim that walls don't work and that building it would be a waste of time and money. Do you support this asinine claim? I believe you do.
The proposed impeachment of Trump. Do you support this? I believe you do.

Unless I'm wrong about my beliefs...case closed.

 

[tres borrachos]

Nonsense huh?
2+ years of the Trump Inquisition. Do you support this witch hunt? I believe you do.
The claim that Trump is a racist, and that his response to Charlottesville prove that. Do you support this supposition? I believe you do.
The claim that walls don't work and that building it would be a waste of time and money. Do you support this asinine claim? I believe you do.
The proposed impeachment of Trump. Do you support this? I believe you do.

Unless I'm wrong about my beliefs...case closed.

I stopped after "witch hunt". I'm not a Trump parrot. You really shouldn't parrot his words, either (if that's possible). He's a reality TV game show host. Blindly repeating his words is the very definition of group think, or in this case, Trumpthink,

 

[Buzz62]

I stopped after "witch hunt". I'm not a Trump parrot. You really shouldn't parrot his words, either (if that's possible). He's a reality TV game show host. Blindly repeating his words is the very definition of group think, or in this case, Trumpthink,

Good for you.
And thanks for proving my point.

 

[tres borrachos]

Good for you.
And thanks for proving my point.

The point that you love Trump and parrot him? We already knew that.

 

[Buzz62]

The point that you love Trump and parrot him? We already knew that.

:lamo
Bye Bye…
:lamo

 

[year2late]

Nonsense huh?
2+ years of the Trump Inquisition. Do you support this witch hunt? I believe you do.
The claim that Trump is a racist, and that his response to Charlottesville prove that. Do you support this supposition? I believe you do.
The claim that walls don't work and that building it would be a waste of time and money. Do you support this asinine claim? I believe you do.
The proposed impeachment of Trump. Do you support this? I believe you do.

Unless I'm wrong about my beliefs...case closed.

How many years of White Water....how many years for Iran Contra.....how many years for Watergate....etc...

We are not talking about that much time - in relative terms.

If it is a witch hunt...why do they keep finding guilty people?

I have no clue how or IF anything will lead to POTUS...but certainly more than a few in his inner circle are fessing up to their misdeeds.


But frankly, as usual Trump is his own worst enemy.

 

[Buzz62]

How many years of White Water....how many years for Iran Contra.....how many years for Watergate....etc...

We are not talking about that much time - in relative terms.

If it is a witch hunt...why do they keep finding guilty people?

I have no clue how or IF anything will lead to POTUS...but certainly more than a few in his inner circle are fessing up to their misdeeds.


But frankly, as usual Trump is his own worst enemy.

2 people were convicted as a direct result of the White Water scandal. Not some unrelated horse crap.
Same with Iran Contra and Watergate.

Every politician and most wealthy and powerful people, have something to hide.
That includes Hillary-Billary and Obama.
If one turns over enough stones, one finds dirt.

However...NONE of the convictions have to do with Trump and this wet dream of 'collusion'.
Odd huh? An investigation set out to see if the POTUS was 'colluding' with Russians to affect the election, for which no proof, what so ever, has been uncovered, goes on and on prosecuting everyone close to Trump, but completely ignoring their own...like Page for instance.

Trump does say some interesting things. He brings allot of criticism on himself.
But all politicians do that so...ya...there's that.

The wet dream though? That's just hate filled BS.

 

[year2late]

2 people were convicted as a direct result of the White Water scandal. Not some unrelated horse crap.
Same with Iran Contra and Watergate.

Every politician and most wealthy and powerful people, have something to hide.
That includes Hillary-Billary and Obama.
If one turns over enough stones, one finds dirt.

However...NONE of the convictions have to do with Trump and this wet dream of 'collusion'.
Odd huh? An investigation set out to see if the POTUS was 'colluding' with Russians to affect the election, for which no proof, what so ever, has been uncovered, goes on and on prosecuting everyone close to Trump, but completely ignoring their own...like Page for instance.

Trump does say some interesting things. He brings allot of criticism on himself.
But all politicians do that so...ya...there's that.

The wet dream though? That's just hate filled BS.

So you already know the endpoint of the investigation? Please share with the rest of us. We will wait.

 

[Buzz62]

So you already know the endpoint of the investigation? Please share with the rest of us. We will wait.

:lamo
I mean...
:lamo

 

[year2late]

:lamo
I mean...
:lamo

So I guess that is a no....you do not actually know what the endpoint of this investigation is.

I certainly do not.

By the way, of you are investigating and uncover crimes you are not intending to find....do you sweep them under the rug? Or convict the criminals or use them as leverage to cooperate...or both?

 

[Individual]

Yep, let us send these "criminals" back to what they were running from.

If they enter the country illegally, I agree.

For some reason :roll: the Trump administration is now emulating the FDR position on refugees. Bit funny don't you think, seeing as how modern Republicans are constantly denigrating the "socialistic" practices of Franklin D Roosevelt.

I don't recall mentioning FDR.

 

[Buzz62]

So I guess that is a no....you do not actually know what the endpoint of this investigation is.

I certainly do not.

By the way, of you are investigating and uncover crimes you are not intending to find....do you sweep them under the rug? Or convict the criminals or use them as leverage to cooperate...or both?

Under the rug? You mean like the drives Hillary-Billary demolished?
'Collusion' is dead in the water. That's rather obvious by now.
All this investigation serves now, is the wet dreams on Libbies who live on hate.

If you and/or the FBI wanna investigate every politician alive...go ahead.
But be careful what you ask for...

 

[year2late]

Under the rug? You mean like the drives Hillary-Billary demolished?
'Collusion' is dead in the water. That's rather obvious by now.
All this investigation serves now, is the wet dreams on Libbies who live on hate.

If you and/or the FBI wanna investigate every politician alive...go ahead.
But be careful what you ask for...

But Hillary is your excuse. Good gracious. I do not give a rat's ass if she gets investigated. You do realize your side was in total control for quite awhile, right?


Back to the question at hand.

Mueller will eventually give a final report. It will be interesting to know the results.

But for now, I am happy he is carrying out the POTUS promise to drain the swamp. How many more swamp creatures (if any)who knows. I will just wait patiently.

 

[Exactice]

Trump's "zero tolerance" is a new policy where children were separated from parents on a class B misdemeanor.

NEVER in our history did we treat first timers as criminals, at least not en masse as we are doing now.


Calling a first timer "criminal" is like calling someone who is starving who steals a loaf of bread a criminal.
WTFU and get some compassion, but, of course, the right, especially Trump, have none.
No one is saying we should promote illegal entry, just not treat misdemeanors as criminals and take their kids away.
That's what dems are saying.

I hope to have a fair discussion with you......

1) Trump's Zero Tolerance has NOTHING directly to do with Child Separation, BUT it is a BY-PRODUCT of breaking US immigration LAWS PERIOD. DO not unfairly correlate the enforcement of law with emotion. PARENTS that are CAUGHT illegally entering our nation, This means NO travel documents, NO VISA, NO Reciprocity Treaty. Will be detained for violation of our laws REGARDLESS if you have children with you or NOT. When a parent is detained for a crime, Misdemeanor OR Felony the child is then Safeguarded from the Parent, NO where in my experience as a PRIOR LEO did we detain a Parent with a child intow. And arrest or detain the child more so put the child in custody with the parent to include a police car or jail cell. A guardian was contacted, CPS or DHS was contacted to safeguard the child when an Adult is Detained. THIS IS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. Zero Tolerance has NOTHING to directly do with separating children THIS IS a common standard practice with LEO for YEARS.

2) Never in our laws did we treat first timers as criminals? Immigration act of 1965 WELL before Trump illegal immigration deemed them a misdemeanor and thus a second violation a Felony. I actual am curious. IF we were up to this point Properly documenting illegal border crossing to ESTABLISH that some people may have done it on multiple occasion to consider it a "FELONY"

3) Compassion? So Compassion Overrides LAW? So Because Im broke, Have the compassion to ROB a bank? And NOT face any penalty... THE LAW is the LAW for a reason. It intended to create continuity and a peaceful society

4) While I CAN reason with you. Not to Treat Misdemeanors as Criminals (Which regardless a misdemeanor is a crime) To take their children away is a fair consideration BUT , I WILL say this, IT IS a Standard practice that has gone on FOR YEARS..... has NOTHING to do with TRUMP per say.(IT is a by-product) BUT Child Safeguard is a COMMON practice when a PARENT Legal Citizen or ILLEGAL migrate breaks a law and a child intow. the CHILD is Safeguard released to a LEGAL Guardian while the Parent is detained OR if NO legal Guardian CPS/DHS is the in taking sponsor.


DEMS are NOT this... THE are pushing the TERM FAMILY separation. WHICH ZERO Tolerance HAS NO bearing OR GUIDANCE on the separation of Family. THE GUIDANCE is that ANYONE PERIOD that is caught illegally will be detained. HOW we comply with the detainment HAS NOT been altered by Trump's Zero Tolerance PERIOD. Show me in the letter of policy where it states that the DETAINMENT Process has been altered.

 

[Buzz62]

But Hillary is your excuse. Good gracious. I do not give a rat's ass if she gets investigated. You do realize your side was in total control for quite awhile, right?


Back to the question at hand.

Mueller will eventually give a final report. It will be interesting to know the results.

But for now, I am happy he is carrying out the POTUS promise to drain the swamp. How many more swamp creatures (if any)who knows. I will just wait patiently.

Not so good. Not so gracious either, I'm afraid. You just don't understand why conservatives tend to bring up Hillary-Billary, do you?
For me its because I can't understand how, after everything she did as SOS, that getting caught playing hanky-panky with the primaries, financing a shoddy investigation into a political opponent, all while having the Russians crossing her dirty little palms with millions in plain view of the world, and Donald Trump is the one under investigation??? Someone needs their head examined. All this signifies to me is that America is, to its core, partisan as hell.


My 'side' is as guilty as your 'side'. That's one of the most frustrating parts of this. Paul Ryan couldn't muster the balls to work for this wall. To support the Republican president. Same thing happened to Obama.

"Swamp creatures". They're all "swamp creatures". That's the problem...or at least allot of the problem.
Trump is not really much of a politician. In fact his ideas and agenda, are despised by most politicians. Why?
Globalism Vs. Nationalism.

Ask yourself this...knowing that the middle class and lower and had no gains in wealth over the last...ohhh say 25 years or so...ever since these trade deals and globalization started taking hold, while the upper class got insanely wealthy and powerful...what benefit has globalization presented to the middle class of the USA?

 

[justabubba]

When a cop stops a person and asks for his/her ID, and then realizes the ID is either false or non-existent, he has cause to detain the person.
Just a little bit of investigating would show who the person is...et voila.

Would you please cite the law which says all persons must carry on their person a current and valid identification card

 

[Buzz62]

Would you please cite the law which says all persons must carry on their person a current and valid identification card

There isn't one in the USA...that I know of.
However when a cop pulls a person over, they'd better have a valid DL. And if that DL is...Mexican, or lets say not American, that person better be able to prove they are not in the country illegally. I think there are still cities that allow random checks too?

 

[Somerville]

There isn't one in the USA...that I know of.
However when a cop pulls a person over, they'd better have a valid DL. And if that DL is...Mexican, or lets say not American, that person better be able to prove they are not in the country illegally. I think there are still cities that allow random checks too?

What if the person is not driving the stopped vehicle? Should they have to show ID?

 

[Somerville]

If they enter the country illegally, I agree.


I don't recall mentioning FDR.

I wonder why you failed to reply to the other words in my earlier post

For the U.S., the effort to protect refugees was also an act of atonement. In 1939, the government had rejected a boat carrying more than nine hundred Jewish escapees from Nazi Germany. At least two hundred of them were later killed in the Holocaust. As the refugee crisis worsened, countless more were refused entry. President Franklin Roosevelt had warned the public that Jews posed a national-security threat, and argued for tighter restrictions on their numbers.

 

[justabubba]

Which is illegal IMO, and puts the security of illegals ahead of the security of the nation.

[emphasis added by bubba]

please cite the law that is being broken by local leos in sanctuary communities who do not enforce federal immigration laws

 

[Individual]

I wonder why you failed to reply to the other words in my earlier post

Are you claiming Mexico will kill them?