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Trump: 'US will not allow transgender individuals to serve in military' [W:144]

dobieg said:
It's comical that liberals can't understand something so simple.



There is absolutely no similarity working with a LQBTQ in the real world and being forced to work with a LQBTQ in the military. That you can't understand that shows how many liberals live in their. "everyone pharts unicorns" fantasy World.
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No one is forced, if they do not like it then they can get out.
Ya know like when Truman did this, EO 9981. I am sure some people did not like having to work with people not lily white and got the **** out. No loss then, no loss now
https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=true&doc=84
 
Manc Skipper said:
One of the SEALs who took out Bin Laden is trans. Trump dodged the draft FIVE times. Any trans person going out their front door in the morning shows more courage than Trump ever will.
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LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Donald Trump’s Draft Deferments
An overview of Donald Trump's Selective Service records from 1964 through 1972, when he was classified 4-F (not qualified for military service).

Donald Trump's Draft Deferments
 
prometeus said:
Isn't medical coverage part of the compensation for service? Are you saying that some who would have this type of medical procedure do not serve?
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Preexisting conditions disqualifies people, all the time.
 
vesper said:
Well what I posted is the standard that must be accepted to enter the military to serve and I don't see how transgenders reach that threshold to qualify. Some may start a process after they have enlisted but if that process started before they enlisted it would disqualify them.

I have never seen such an effort to promote and coddle even children to question their sexual identity. Not sure what is going on but I don't find it healthy thought.
A person that chooses to change their sex identity loses all rights to reproduce. They will never be able to produce offspring. They also live on cocktails of hormones and other drugs. No longterm studies have been performed on the outcome of such therapies and the adverse affects on their bodies. If margarine an artificial butter, refined sugar and processed foods can cause havic on all
of us causing all kinds of diseases, what are the consequences of pumping a body full of hormones it was never intended to process?
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Being unable to produce children does not make a person less of a person.
 
volsrock said:
About the same as Bill Clinton
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Good to see you guys are still following the lead of the Clintons. I knew you secretly idolized them, but it's starting to get ridiculous.
 
rocket88 said:
Being unable to produce children does not make a person less of a person.
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I never stated such. And is the best shot you could make out of my reply to Luther? Really?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Donald Trump never dodged the draft. That is a pure fabrication
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He took four student deferments, then developed bone spurs within two years of being passed A1 fit for service. The bone spurs may have deferred him serving, but not from active sports such as basketball, tennis, and squash.
 
Cardinal said:
You really felt that "fart" was such an offensive word that you needed to bleep it with "phart?"
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Probably against Conservative values to admit to farting.
 
volsrock said:
LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Donald Trump’s Draft Deferments
An overview of Donald Trump's Selective Service records from 1964 through 1972, when he was classified 4-F (not qualified for military service).

Donald Trump's Draft Deferments
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Did you take out time from your worship services for that?
 
vesper said:
I never stated such. And is the best shot you could make out of my reply to Luther? Really?
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Then by bring it up? Is producing offspring an important function of the military?
 
Re: Trump to reinstate US military ban on transgender people

DA60 said:
And Trump takes another step to try and push America back to the 1950's.
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Uhh...you mean push us back to like 5 months ago?
 
Logicman said:
I'm sure after tansgenderism runs its course, the liberals will come up with some other perversion to try to inject into the armed forces, or to try to legitimize.
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Once again "logic"man is completely free of anything resembling logic.
 
rocket88 said:
Then by bring it up? Is producing offspring an important function of the military?
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BS you are bastardizing my post to Luther. It was simply a fact about those who choose to change their sexual identity. It simply points out that those who choose such a thing will forever be on a regimen of hormones their bodies are unable to produce.
 
faithful_servant said:
Not permanent deployment, but rather permanently in their defined roles. Instead of having a soldier be a soldier for 13 months and then head stateside to be a supply clerk, you have a soldier rotate back to a training facility after 13 months to be a better soldier (rest and recuperation being a big part of that). The reason I say this is because I grew listening to my dad talk about being an Air Force flight engineer (top level airplane mechanic) and having qualified people on his crew get rotated out to combat positions and non-qualified soldiers getting rotated in and having to teach them everything pretty much from scratch. I got the idea from an 8 year Air Force veteran who lived the reality of having the wrong people in the jobs and seeing the cost of that decision.
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I really don't get what you are talking about. The military is already broken down into defined roles. In the Army it's called your MOS. It's the job you will do for the entire time you are in the military unless you reclass which means going back to school to learn a new job. If you are am infantryman then that is what you do. You are not going to do that for a year and then go be a mechanic or a office clerk. If you ate an office clerk then that is what you are going to do. You will not be a mechanic.
So I really have no idea what you are talking about.
 
vesper said:
BS you are bastardizing my post to Luther. It was simply a fact about those who choose to change their sexual identity. It simply points out that those who choose such a thing will forever be on a regimen of hormones their bodies are unable to produce.
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So you bring it up, but it's not important?
 
Re: Trump to reinstate US military ban on transgender people

Renae said:
I got NO Problem with this. The amount of medical care required to transition, be it with my physiatrist, with an Endocrinologist, taking my daily HRT... I'm trying to imagine this being supported when I was deployed... don't see it happening, and that was on a mid-sized naval vessel, imagine that out in the field for weeks or months at a time?

No, President Trump is right on this one. The reality of War > the reality of Transitioning.
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I think it should be perfectly fine for non-transitioned transgender individuals. They can even be open about being trans and no one should give them **** about it because that's bull**** to do to someone. However, if they want to transition, or are transitioned, that's an entirely different story.
 
is the military forced to pay for anyone's else "ELECTIVE" surgery? Or is it just Trans?
 
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