Trump suggests that it could get 'very bad' if military, police, biker supporters play 'tough'

[Deuce]

No, but then you ignore the question,

If it it's the driving factor, and demand is white hot....WHY ARE BUILDERS CHOOSING NOT TO BUILD.

Shortage of workers. Low margins. HOAs. Local zoning.

 

[JustHanging]

Yeppers.

No kidding. Imagine expecting Americans to understand how the rest of the developed world works. Obviously not going to happen with many.

 

[pamak]

No, but then you ignore the question,

If it it's the driving factor, and demand is white hot....WHY ARE BUILDERS CHOOSING NOT TO BUILD.

I answered it!

Because they focus on higher income customers which is enough to have the builders make their profit! This is why I compared it to the healthcare situation where insurance companies are expecting to make profit from a certain part of the population while they ignore the needs and demand of the uninsured.

 

[sjmay]

Shortage of workers. Low margins. HOAs. Local zoning.

Low margins due to high regulations/taxes,

Long wait times for permits etc,

It's a multitude of things that is not covered by simple supply and demand.

 

[Hatuey]

That's what a primary is. Different flavors of your party to choose from. You seem to be upset that all the candidates aren't exactly the same or something.

You're the one whose pissed at Bernie. I'm not pissed at Hillary. Shows exactly where the divisiveness is coming from.

Pissed? I called him Hillary's Nader. He was. It doesn't mean I'm pissed - it just means I won't vote for the guy. The same way I didn't vote for Nader (then again I wasnt old enough to)

Just for reference: Are the Bernie supporers still running the same 2016 primary because I heard AOC whine and moan about moderates and centrists 2 weeks ago.

Lol, in all seriousness, let's not get it confused. The progressive side isn't as extremist as right wingers would like them to be, but they are definitely divisive. They have been so since 1996 when they saw a way to complain about the left not being left enough. Bernie is just doing what was done to him by progressive predecessors.


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[trixare4kids]

No, actually I do not see Bernie as someone who has a credible plan. He has socialist ideas with which I agree, but it does not mean that he has provided a credible plan of polices. Unlike many Trump supporters, just because I agree ideologically with someone, it does not mean that I can swallow whatever plan he proposes to accomplish his policies. If Bernie says thing which do not make sense (such as the Mexicans will pay for free college), I will hold him accountable. In any case, I do not vote since I am not an American citizen, and on top of this, this forum is about comparing and contrasting arguments to find the strengths and weaknesses of the different political positions and not comparing and contrasting incomes. This is why I did not are to ask about your area of residence and search in internet to find its average income level.

I put Palo Alto into a two second search and up popped the medium income for an area you said you live in.
That leaves me wondering why a non-citizen of the United States, an admitted socialist, would be living in such an expensive area and complaining about a housing shortage. Care to explain?

 

[Conservative]

The state can do little about the supply with respect to regulations because most of these decisions are at a local level below the state!

My wealth came as a result of going to college and become a mechanical engineer. Now you start talking like a communist comrade...

Mechanical engineer, huh, in the private sector, the one you want to destroy now?

so the state cannot do anything about local gov't issues so it is the local governments in say San Francisco that is causing the problem of not addressing supply? Why is that? You want housing prices to drop create more supply. when supply outstrips demand prices drop and there aren't that many billionaires from overseas moving to California to affect supply or demand

 

[Deuce]

Low margins due to high regulations/taxes,

Long wait times for permits etc,

It's a multitude of things that is not covered by simple supply and demand.

Yeah that's what I'm saying. Just saying "it's regulations" and then walking away from the table is dumb. Show me a regulation and how much it costs. Don't just claim it's there.

 

[Conservative]

Listen... I apply to the Mark Twain theory that we are all stupid just in different topics. You're stupid in economics and civics and I'm stupid about denture creams.

Apparently stupid people cannot read their own bank account or know what they have in the bank. Guess I should have you come over and explain it to me. Your claims are like all your others, pointless and without merit as you have offered nothing to support the claim that I am stupid in economics and civics. Seems the official results show us which one of us is indeed stupid and that would be you

 

[sjmay]

Yeah that's what I'm saying. Just saying "it's regulations" and then walking away from the table is dumb. Show me a regulation and how much it costs. Don't just claim it's there.

Obviously it's there.....otherwise builders...you know....would be building....

Obviously something is preventing them, it could be a combination of things...

 

[Deuce]

Apparently stupid people cannot read their own bank account or know what they have in the bank. Guess I should have you come over and explain it to me. Your claims are like all your others, pointless and without merit as you have offered nothing to support the claim that I am stupid in economics and civics. Seems the official results show us which one of us is indeed stupid and that would be you

What does his bank account have to do with anything

 

[Hatuey]

Because he campaigned for her? Because he told his supporters to vote for her? What?

Look, if you think I said Bernie was Hillary's Nader because of a split vote, I am going to take a few minutes and laugh, as that didn't happen in either election.

If you think I said it without knowledge of his last ditch attempt to get people to vote for her over a month.... A month after having lost the last primary to her and even longer after it became mathematically impossible for him to win, you're kidding yourself.

If you think the reason I said it is because the progressive left is in fact often times divisive, then we can agree. Just don't tell me that the people whose entire premise is to differentiate themselves from the party whose support they want badly aren't divisive cause not only will I not laugh, I'll actually take you seriously and prove you wrong.



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[pamak]

I put Palo Alto into a two second search and up popped the medium income for an area you said you live in.
That leaves me wondering why a non-citizen of the United States, an admitted socialist, would be living in such an expensive area and complaining about a housing shortage. Care to explain?

My complain was about the logic of the initial attempt to compare the poverty rates of Texas and California after factoring the living cost! I provided a link to give the full picture which shows that if one does not take in consideration the living cost, Texas actually has a HIGHER poverty rate than CA despite its supposedly pro business environment. I also made clear that I did not object to the fact that CA's poverty rate is increased and surpasses that of Texas after factoring the different cost of living in the states.

My point was that a comparison which factors the cost of living is misleading because the latter will certainly differ a lot between states with different population density and different levels of customer demand. Right or wrong, CA is a more attractive destination than Texas for wealthy foreigners. For Palo Alto, one of the biggest factors for its housing demand is the presence of Stanford University nearby. So, my complain was about the validity of comparing CA's and TX's cost of living when such cost is greatly affected by the housing demand!

 

[poweRob]

Apparently stupid people cannot read their own bank account or know what they have in the bank. Guess I should have you come over and explain it to me. Your claims are like all your others, pointless and without merit as you have offered nothing to support the claim that I am stupid in economics and civics. Seems the official results show us which one of us is indeed stupid and that would be you

Like I said, or I believe Mark Twain said, we are all stupid, just in different topics. Perhaps you should try a different topic? Because this one alludes you.

 

[poweRob]

What does his bank account have to do with anything

Notice he won't broach the thread topic of trump pushing conservative authoritarianism?

Seems he's fine with it.

 

[pamak]

Mechanical engineer, huh, in the private sector, the one you want to destroy now?

so the state cannot do anything about local gov't issues so it is the local governments in say San Francisco that is causing the problem of not addressing supply? Why is that? You want housing prices to drop create more supply. when supply outstrips demand prices drop and there aren't that many billionaires from overseas moving to California to affect supply or demand

As I said, wealthier communities actually have home owners who are more likely to support strict regulations to protect their investment. This is not a "right" or "left" issue. This is something that both conservative and liberal rich people do!

 

[JustHanging]

You don't think supply and demand are a factor?

Remember, they're talking Trumpenomics. The suite price is controlled by how badly the other guy needs to launder his money.

 

[sjmay]

You don't think supply and demand are a factor?

I don't think it's ENOUGH OF A FACTOR to get builders to build, there is something that is stopping them that is having them IGNORE the white hot demand factor.

 

[trixare4kids]

My complain was about the logic of the initial attempt to compare the poverty rates of Texas and California after factoring the living cost! I provided a link to give the full picture which shows that if one does not take in consideration the living cost, Texas actually has a HIGHER poverty rate than CA despite its supposedly pro business environment. I also made clear that I did not object to the fact that CA's poverty rate is increased and surpasses that of Texas after factoring the different cost of living in the states.

My point was that a comparison which factors the cost of living is misleading because the latter will certainly differ a lot between states with different population density and different levels of customer demand. Right or wrong, CA is a more attractive destination than Texas for wealthy foreigners. For Palo Alto, one of the biggest factors for its housing demand is the presence of Stanford University nearby. So, my complain was about the validity of comparing CA's and TX's cost of living when such cost is greatly affected by the housing demand!

Ok, your point is duly noted.

 

[Conservative]

Like I said, or I believe Mark Twain said, we are all stupid, just in different topics. Perhaps you should try a different topic? Because this one alludes you.

Your opinion noted as is your ignorance of official data and basic civics

 

[Conservative]

As I said, wealthier communities actually have home owners who are more likely to support strict regulations to protect their investment. This is not a "right" or "left" issue. This is something that both conservative and liberal rich people do!

Then that is your state problem not anyone else's supply will never grow until you relax regulations and create incentive.

 

[Saladin4]

I guess this nut job in New Zealand was one of trump's "tough guys".......The guy even gave a shout out to trump

 

[ttwtt78640]

Like who? Who would you consider far left?

Most of them so far who support more gun control (specifically UBCs, magazine capacity limits, AWBs and gun registration), sanctuary cities/states, the GND and M4A. The last two are hugely expensive and deserve very detailed explanations of the new and/or additional taxation schemes required to fund them - often that topic is avoided.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Trump suggests that it could get 'very bad' if military, police, biker supporters play 'tough'

All the right leaning Americans that AbsaByGodLutely MUST fly cover every time their Orange Hero says something as dumb as he did in this Britebart interview have my admiration. How you can stay devoted to this Blowhard Con-man as he ****s up on daily basis takes real Trump Devotion Sickness, and yet you seem to continue to function in the real world. Amazing!

Just trying to get back on topic or would yall rather talk about the price of tea in Gina?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

No idea, but you honestly literally said the President asked people to attack his critics, and that's so far from the truth, it's pathetic.

The body count is ZERO.
Yes, I did say that he's encouraging cops, military and biker gangs to attack his critics. There's no other way to look at it if you admit that there's no "body count" from what he claims is "the violent left".

You're in denial.