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Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally

CRModeration said:
The topic at hand is Trump's increased use of racial rhetoric and the increase in hate crimes that could follow.
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No the topic at hand is president Trump is cleaning the democrats clock and their desperation is showing in this stupid thread!
I hope you guys are going to come up with something better this this phony racist stuff? :peace
 
CRModeration said:
The topic at hand is Trump's increased use of racial rhetoric and the increase in hate crimes that could follow.
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Luckily, most people aren't that stupid & destructive. :)

Well, except for Antifa...
 
 
CRModeration said:
Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally | SBS News

Trump invokes slogan used regularly by local SC KKK division in campaign rally

"At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'."

“If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it" - that was US President Donald Trump’s message about four Democratic congresswomen at a rally in North Carolina, where supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back”.

“Let ’em leave,” Mr Trump said of the four women. “They’re always telling us how to run it, how to do this, how to do that. You know what? If they don’t love it, tell ’em to leave it.”

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I find it hard to believe that his handlers weren't aware of this reference in this specific area of the country—especially in regards to the topic at hand.

The question is, what level of racial rhetoric does Trump have to use before his supporters find it abhorrent enough to call him out on it? My guess is there is no bottom, no mark to hit on that.
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This slogan was used widely by the old guard during the Viet Nam era.

Hardly a group of White Supremacists.

What's wrong with Jackwagons that don't know history and twist any bit of news to the lying narrative they want?
 
Common Sense 1 said:
No the topic at hand is president Trump is cleaning the democrats clock and their desperation is showing in this stupid thread!
I hope you guys are going to come up with something better this this phony racist stuff? :peace
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Citing the oncoming increase in racial animosity towards certain groups of people will suffice, because that's what happens when you ignore obvious red flags and let the wackos get bold.

Would you be concerned if that was the result of Trump continuously stirring the pot on this?
 
HenryChinaski said:
They more than likely suggested it because of it's origins. Trump has gone "balls out, **** it, the GOP is no longer going to tread lightly hiding their true beliefs" We're racists and make no apologies for it"
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Yes. After all, it was Steve Bannon, Donald Trump‘s chief Republican party strategist, who recently told Nazis “let them call you a racist, wear it as a badge of honor”.

The mask is off. All that other fiscal conservatism, small government, state rights nonsense was just a front for what really ails these folks .
 
 
Crystal said:
To summarize! Everyone who does not agree with the left is a racist.
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Sad but true.

The word "racist" is as watered down as the phrase "Breaking news".
 
CRModeration said:
I'm sorry, but this is absurd.

The 4 are not not Satan ✔

It IS easily recognizable white nationalist language ✔

The 4 having free speech to express their views on the US is not treacherous ✔

Neither liberals or conservatives are the metaphorical "slobs," and your comment about "cleaning the nation up" is absolutely ominous to say the least ✔
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No need to apologize. I respect your right to have a difference of opinion.
 
code1211 said:
This slogan was used widely by the old guard during the Viet Nam era.

Hardly a group of White Supremacists.

What's wrong with Jackwagons that don't know history and twist any bit of news to the lying narrative they want?
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The slogan was used by the SC KKK as well.

That is very much a group of white supremacists.

What's actually wrong is jackwagons who cite only one major instance of the slogan being used when it's current usage parallels the racial undertones used by the localized KKk.
 
CRModeration said:
Citing the oncoming increase in racial animosity towards certain groups of people will suffice, because that's what happens when you ignore obvious red flags and let the wackos get bold.

Would you be concerned if that was the result of Trump continuously stirring the pot on this?
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You are just making up stuff.... That slogan is not Racist and you know it! Stop with your race bait BS.
Are you talking about the lefty wacko that attacked the ICE facility? Yes...AOC needs to stop calling them concentration camps.
 
Crystal said:
These are people’s opinions of racist comments. I want you to tell me what he said and what makes it racist
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He originally told 4 American Congresswomen of color to go back to their home countries if they didn't like America.

3 out of the four are natural-born citizens. One has been a US citizen for longer than even Melania.

All four are home.

So, explain to me how he determined these 4 in particular should "go back home" to countries they have either never been to or didn't truly grow up in.

We all know that you know the answer how, but you're going to play the "there's no link" when clearly even some republicans saw the comment as abhorrent racial in nature.

I can't believve it's this hard for you guys to just acknowledge Trump said something terrible and should stop for the good of the country. There's real conservatives who recognize this is degenerate, and then there's this new breed of Trump conservatism (if you can even call it that) that is entirely unrecognizable from the people I used to know.
 
HenryChinaski said:
They more than likely suggested it because of it's origins. Trump has gone "balls out, **** it, the GOP is no longer going to tread lightly hiding their true beliefs" We're racists and make no apologies for it"
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Since when is "America--love it or leave it" a KKK slogan? And just because a tiny minority of Americans have co-opted it, if indeed they have, doesn't mean that it's a racist slogan because KKKers are racists. People who used this expression in the '70's weren't referring to race at all. A Brief History of Loving or Leaving America | HuffPost
 
CRModeration said:
He originally told 4 American Congresswomen of color to go back to their home countries if they didn't like America.

3 out of the four are natural-born citizens. One has been a US citizen for longer than even Melania.

All four are home.

So, explain to me how he determined these 4 in particular should "go back home" to countries they have either never been to or didn't truly grow up in.

We all know that you know the answer how, but you're going to play the "there's no link" when clearly even some republicans saw the comment as abhorrent racial in nature.

I can't believve it's this hard for you guys to just acknowledge Trump said something terrible and should stop for the good of the country. There's real conservatives who recognize this is degenerate, and then there's this new breed of Trump conservatism (if you can even call it that) that is entirely unrecognizable from the people I used to know.
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So if he told four white people to go back to where they came from it would or would not be racist?
 
Crystal said:
These are people’s opinions of racist comments. I want you to tell me what he said and what makes it racist
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That’s an odd thing to ask, after everything we have seen and heard, from the central park five, to Charlottesville, to now this.

The question at this point we should really be asking is: what could he possibly ever say or do that would NOT be dismissed as not being racist? I bet he could burn a cross on the front lawn of the White House, and you would still be asking the same thing.
 
ataraxia said:
That’s an odd thing to ask, after everything we have seen and heard, from the central park five, to Charlottesville, to now this.

The question at this point we should really be asking is what could he possibly ever say or do that would NOT be dismissed as not being racist? I bet he could burn a cross on the front lawn of the White House, and you would be asking the same thing.
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Someone went to the basement and started a thread about me being from stormfront. No one gives a **** about you leftists and your constant use of you frayed out ****ing race card. So let me ask you since the other guy won’t answer. If Trump told a White woman to go back to where she came from would that be racist?
 
Crystal said:
Someone went to the basement and started a thread about me being from stormfront. No one gives a **** about you leftists and your constant use of you frayed out ****ing race card. So let me ask you since the other guy won’t answer. If Trump told a White woman to go back to where she came from would that be racist?
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It would be hateful and maybe even racist. But it wouldn’t really be quite the same thing, given that the white woman is in a demographic majority. The difference is in the long history of that phrase being used, most notably against vulnerable minorities. It is particularly Alarming that he’s using this phrase to refer to four women of color. If that’s not a dog whistle, I don’t know what is.

It’s a little like someone saying “workers unite”! Of course that could just be in a friendly game of baseball where the workers are playing against their bosses. But if someone uses that phrase and tries to excuse it as such, given the long history of how that phrase was used to invoke violent protest, we would all just smile knowingly and know what they really meant. Don’t you think?
 
nota bene said:
Since when is "America--love it or leave it" a KKK slogan? And just because a tiny minority of Americans have co-opted it, if indeed they have, doesn't mean that it's a racist slogan because KKKers are racists. People who used this expression in the '70's weren't referring to race at all. A Brief History of Loving or Leaving America | HuffPost
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I grew up in the punk scene in the 80's with violent white power skins around that would use "Go back to where you came from!" when they were assaulting and harassing non-whites on the street. One Skinhead used some semblance of just that before he pushed an elderly Asian man that was fishing off of a pier to his death in Lake Michigan. One kid that I hung with, his grandmother was from Alabama and a proudly racist woman who used "Love it or leave it" on occasion from what I remember. Yes, these phrases that Trump and his supporters are using are racist, to deny that is willful ignorance.
 
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Fletch said:
It was used during the Vietnam War. Was it racist then too? And where is the evidence that this slogan was invented by the KKK?
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Of course it wasnt racist then. Correct about its use against war protesters. Turns out they were right about the war as a wrong policy, and Nixon had to sort of leave. But don't be so coy:it was perhaps racist with Trump given his long history, plus that he didn't say it to Ryan, Schumer, Pelosi or other white folks with whom he differed. SurPRAZE, surPRAZE, as Gomer would say, he used it on darker skinned people.

I don't remember "love it or leave it" as coming from the KKK at all, but it represents one of our worse political instincts, like Lindsey Graham calling people communists, much as people called Martin Luther King and Cesar Chavez Commies.

For future reference and for foreigners learning US political culture, these are the politically correct rules: Unless you are Trump or other conservatives criticizing American carnage or the swamp or the deep state, you cannot criticize the US. You may be asked to leave if you do. On international topics, Trump can say "it's all about the Benjamins" to explain US policy towards Saudi Arabia, but one can't say the same about AIPAC's influence without being accused of anti-Semitism. It's not much different than reflexive calls of racism from the left, or of fascism from the infantile left in the US. Sort of what you do when you can't answer with facts or an argument.

I was called a commie and told to go back to Mexico once. Badge of honor of a sort, but I am from Brooklyn with parents from Italy. Bigots gotta bigot.
 
ataraxia said:
It would be hateful and maybe even racist. But it wouldn’t really be quite the same thing, given that the white woman is in a demographic majority. The difference is in the long history of that phrase being used, most notably against vulnerable minorities. It is particularly Alarming that he’s using this phrase to refer to four women of color. If that’s not a dog whistle, I don’t know what is.

It’s a little like someone saying “workers unite”! Of course that could just be in a friendly game of baseball where the workers are playing against their bosses. But if someone uses that phrase and tries to excuse it as such, given the long history of how that phrase was used to invoke violent protest, we would all just smile knowingly and know what they really meant. Don’t you think?
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Well, I had a person of color tell me a white woman to go back to Europe! So the person of color was the racist I take it! Right?
 
CRModeration said:
Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally | SBS News

Trump invokes slogan used regularly by local SC KKK division in campaign rally

"At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'."

“If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it" - that was US President Donald Trump’s message about four Democratic congresswomen at a rally in North Carolina, where supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back”.

“Let ’em leave,” Mr Trump said of the four women. “They’re always telling us how to run it, how to do this, how to do that. You know what? If they don’t love it, tell ’em to leave it.”

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I find it hard to believe that his handlers weren't aware of this reference in this specific area of the country—especially in regards to the topic at hand.

The question is, what level of racial rhetoric does Trump have to use before his supporters find it abhorrent enough to call him out on it? My guess is there is no bottom, no mark to hit on that.
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Lying is the #1 Democratic Party tactic.

It is a LIE to claim "Love it or leave it" is a KKK slogan. It was MOST used in American history in relation to criticism of the anti-Vietnam war protesters.

There are now at least 10 threads if not more over what Trump said started by Democrats on the forum, and every OP they have started is based upon a known and deliberate lie. President Trump never said anything about race.
 
The policy stance of the Democratic Party is that if you do not openly hate and incessantly curse the United States, capitalism and Americans you are a racist. Anyone who isn't a corporate fascist is a racist to the Democratic Party. It has become a meaningless word.
 
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