Trump Insults Several Million American Jews

[Grand Mal]

No, they put leftist ideals ahead of any care they may have for Israel. Otherwise, they wouldn't have voted for someone like Obama.

You're saying they put their loyalty to America ahead of their feelings for Israel. And you're saying it like it's a bad thing.
So what did Trump mean? Who would American Jews be disloyal to by voting Democratic?

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Oh the drama..... Upset, upset and more upset........ Oh don't forget... Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi That is all! :lamo :lamo

Time and time again Trump supporters show us all why there are no good right wing comedians.

 

[Grand Mal]

Putin wanted to interfere in the US elections to sow divisiveness and discord. Well guess what? Mission accomplished.

The 'divide' phase is progressing nicely.

 

[Grand Mal]

Time and time again Trump supporters show us all why there are no good right wing comedians.

I know, right? Not since Bob Hope died, anyway.

 

[Nickyjo]

Yes, telling someone that you'll take away everything they've gotten from you. Seems to be a very good method for ensuring loyalty. Not to mention continuing to promise more things to be just given away.

I see, sort of like corporations or the 1%.

 

[Nickyjo]

No, they put leftist ideals ahead of any care they may have for Israel. Otherwise, they wouldn't have voted for someone like Obama.

You are aware that Jews in the US were liberals long before Obama came on the scene, aren’t you?

Strange, last few posts I have been involved with on DP people have suggested that neither minorities nor Jews know what they are doing politically since they vote for democrats. Some on right seem to adhere to the prejudices that minorities are dumb and Jews are smart. So black people and Hispanics have been voting for democrats/liberals, apparently not knowing that civil rights and labor laws are bad for them, and Jews despite being smart, vote the same way despite the fact that the left hates Israel.

 

[trouble13]

The question, trouble 13, is who are Jews disloyal to if they vote Democratic?
Don't be pulling diversions out of your ass. This has nothing to do with any of your leftist anti-semites boogeymen. This is about Cheeto Mussolini's quote.

I dont think its much of a question at all. I think he is clearly saying that the democrats are antisemitic and voting for them is a betrayal to all jews. Its no different than the left calling black conservatives uncle toms or oreos. The left demands loyality and fidelity from many mi iority groups and the ones that dont they call names just as bad as being called an anti-semite.

My advice to the left is dont dish it out if you cant take it back.

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[trouble13]

I know, right? Not since Bob Hope died, anyway.

Adam Sandler, Tim Allen, Adam Corolla, Dennis Miller, Dennis Leary, Rob Schneider, are all conservatives and fuuny. I think david spade is as well. I can think of quite a few top comedians that lean right.

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[Grand Mal]

I dont think its much of a question at all. I think he is clearly saying that the democrats are antisemitic and voting for them is a betrayal to all jews. Its no different than the left calling black conservatives uncle toms or oreos. The left demands loyality and fidelity from many mi iority groups and the ones that dont they call names just as bad as being called an anti-semite.

My advice to the left is dont dish it out if you cant take it back.

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The left demands loyalty? Then what's Trump on about? Trump says Jews who vote Democratic are disloyal.
Tell you something. I've been asking conservatives this same question, citing the example of a direct Trump quote, and all I get is vague, empty words. Show me an example of the left demanding loyalty from Jews.
Tell you something else. The radical right has been accusing Jews of divided loyalty/disloyalty for so long that it's become a meme. It's a scare tactic- vote Republican to prove your loyalty.

 

[trouble13]

The left demands loyalty? Then what's Trump on about? Trump says Jews who vote Democratic are disloyal.
Tell you something. I've been asking conservatives this same question, citing the example of a direct Trump quote, and all I get is vague, empty words. Show me an example of the left demanding loyalty from Jews.
Tell you something else. The radical right has been accusing Jews of divided loyalty/disloyalty for so long that it's become a meme. It's a scare tactic- vote Republican to prove your loyalty.

I dont know that i can cite any examples of the left demanding loyality from jews. Why are you limiting it to only them. Is it only not ok to demand their fidelity but its fine to demand fidelity from all the groups that the left does demand it from. The platform on the left is litterally that if you vote for a Republican and you are black, female, gay, Muslim, or latino, you are voting sgainst your groups self interests. How is that any different than what Trump is doing other than Trump is targeting a different group?

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[Anthony60]

You're saying they put their loyalty to America ahead of their feelings for Israel. And you're saying it like it's a bad thing.
So what did Trump mean? Who would American Jews be disloyal to by voting Democratic?

Nope, that's not what I said.

 

[akyron]

Do you have a source for a Democratic President accusing people of color of disloyalty if they vote republican?

Ayanna Pressley says no more 'black faces that don’t want to be a black voice'



If you dont look like me, If you dont think like me, If you dont vote the way I tell you "DONT SHOW UP". -- Seems to be the current message of democrats today in general. Quite a cult.

Inside the White House

"I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years.

Lyndon B. Johnson, said to two governors regarding the Civil Rights Act of 1964, according to then-Air Force One steward Robert MacMillan. As quoted in Inside the White House (1996), by Ronald Kessler, New York: Simon and Schuster, p. 33"

I wont even bother to go into the Wilson years.

On this subject, the NYT actively colluded with nazi germany to hide the extent of the death camps. I will get into more of that later. I am out of time for now.

 

[AProudLefty]

It's because the left only cares for Jewish people, if they can continually exploit them apparently.

Kind of like how they feel about any minority.

Wow...

 

[AProudLefty]

If calling the right racists is fair game, calling the left anti-semites is as well.

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Who has been calling the left antisemites since 2016?

 

[Winston]

Trump is the dumbest President of all times.

 

[trouble13]

Who has been calling the left antisemites since 2016?

I give up, who?

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[AProudLefty]

I give up, who?

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I'll give you one more chance because I know you're smarter than that.

 

[Ouroboros]

You're saying they put their loyalty to America ahead of their feelings for Israel. And you're saying it like it's a bad thing.
So what did Trump mean? Who would American Jews be disloyal to by voting Democratic?

FWIW, in his most recent press conference-- yesterday, I think-- Trump was asked that question by a reporter, and the Prez said such Jews would be disloyal to Israel. Given the awkward construction of his original remark, there's no telling whether he originally meant that or not. But I wish he'd leave this kind of "party loyalty" stuff to the Far Lefties.

 

[Deuce]

FWIW, in his most recent press conference-- yesterday, I think-- Trump was asked that question by a reporter, and the Prez said such Jews would be disloyal to Israel. Given the awkward construction of his original remark, there's no telling whether he originally meant that or not. But I wish he'd leave this kind of "party loyalty" stuff to the Far Lefties.

He successfully claimed the vast majority of Jewish Americans are bad people. The right wing is accepting this new thought process. More right wing nazi attacks will follow.

 

[mrjurrs]

:lamo CNN...lol, they're outraged at anything Trump....like you.

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I wouldn't have expected you to know, but disloyalty to the nation they are living in is an anti-semitic tome that dates back to medieval times. My conclusion would be that the President is either an anti-semite or an idiot. After looking at that sentence, I'm going to go with him being an anti-semitic idiot.

 

[Ouroboros]

He successfully claimed the vast majority of Jewish Americans are bad people. The right wing is accepting this new thought process. More right wing nazi attacks will follow.

It's no different from the Progressives telling people they're not welcome at the table if they don't play identity politics in the approved way:

Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) speaks at Netroots Nation conference: "I don't want to bring a chair to an old table. This is the time to shake the table. This is the time to redefine that table. Because if you're going to come to this table, all of you who have aspirations of running for office. If you’re not prepared to come to that table and represent that voice, don’t come, because we don't need any more brown faces that don't want to be a brown voice. We don’t need black faces that don't want to be a black voice. We don't need Muslims that don’t want to be a Muslim voice. We don’t need queers that don't want to be a queer voice. If you’re worried about being marginalized and stereotyped, please don't even show up because we need you to represent that voice."

The difference here is that Trump hasn't played identity politics to the same extent as his Progressive opponents. That's why I said that this is not a fruitful direction for him to take, while knowing of course that Trump rarely plans things out and probably didn't even give his rhetoric much thought. (Of course, in this case "too much thought," as in overthinking, may be as bad as "too little thought.")

 

[Grand Mal]

FWIW, in his most recent press conference-- yesterday, I think-- Trump was asked that question by a reporter, and the Prez said such Jews would be disloyal to Israel. Given the awkward construction of his original remark, there's no telling whether he originally meant that or not. But I wish he'd leave this kind of "party loyalty" stuff to the Far Lefties.

Far left, far right, the lunatic fringe on both sides demands unflinching loyalty. Far right, I guess 'blood and soil', their country and it's ethnic heritage. Far left, I guess party first, party being the extremist social and political agenda and loyalty meaning no variance from the agenda is tolerated.
But that about loyalty and Jews is a big far-right talking point. Jews are seen as usually left-leaning and influential and the right has made much hay out of accusing them of divided loyalty and disloyalty. Trump, the President, declaring that Jews who vote Democratic are disloyal probably sent a shiver up a few backs. If he says now he meant disloyal to Israel, well, one has to ask why an American should put loyalty to Israel first when voting for a President.
It's nearly dog-whistle stuff, thinly veiled and meant not for American Jews but for his followers, his loyal base voters. Not just a few of them got a message they've been hearing for a looong time, got affirmation from their President of what they've been telling each other for years.

 

[What if...?]

Israel already has nuclear weapons, but it is unsurprising that you would want to encourage nuclear war in the Middle East just to annoy "the left".

That's the problem with dog whistles.

The dogs get bored eventually and you gotta keep ratcheting it up.

 

[Deuce]

It's no different from the Progressives telling people they're not welcome at the table if they don't play identity politics in the approved way:



The difference here is that Trump hasn't played identity politics to the same extent as his Progressive opponents. That's why I said that this is not a fruitful direction for him to take, while knowing of course that Trump rarely plans things out and probably didn't even give his rhetoric much thought. (Of course, in this case "too much thought," as in overthinking, may be as bad as "too little thought.")

It’s very different

 

[Top Cat]

Yeah i'm sure you'd be saying the same thing if Obama said: "I think any Jewish people that vote for a republican, I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

:roll:

Obama's not that stupid