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Trump digs in on racist tweets: ‘Many people agree with me’

j-mac said:
I am a strong proponent of advocating that people who constantly bitch about America, and how their ancestral home lands are so much better, for whatever reason, should if they hate America so, leave it and go to where they think it is better for them...
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So Obama haters should have gone back to where they came from?
 
j-mac said:
Where did I say that opposition of a political party, or politician was the criteria?
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You said you advocate for people who bitch about America to get out.
 
AProudLefty said:
You said you advocate for people who bitch about America to get out.
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He needs help to get it...

The opposition party is the one which mostly bitches about America.

Trump and his supporters did not see America being "great" under Obama.
 
pamak said:
He needs help to get it...

The opposition party is the one which mostly bitches about America.

Trump and his supporters did not see America being "great" under Obama.
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Bingo
 
AProudLefty said:
Bingo
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Here are some examples of TRump's bitching about America before he became president and after when he tried to defend Putin, lolol

Here's Trump hating on America. Is it time for him to leave? | US news | The Guardian

Crippled America
Trump’s 2015 book, Crippled America, was rife with critical quotes, referring to the country as “this mess” and “Uncle Sucker”, among other things, and took great pains to point out just how weak we had become.

The idea of American Greatness, of our country as the leader of the free and unfree world, has vanished … I couldn’t stand to see what was happening to our great country. This mess calls for leadership in the worst way.

Lots of killers
When asked during an interview with Bill O’Reilly in 2017 about his praise for Putin, Trump said America wasn’t much better. But was Putin was “a killer”, O’Reilly said. Trump replied:

There are a lot of killers. You think our country’s so innocent?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From Associated Press

Trump digs in on racist tweets: ‘Many people agree with me’
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Defiant in the face of widespread criticism, President Donald Trump renewed his belligerent call on Monday for four Democratic congresswomen of color to get out of the U.S. “right now,” cementing his position as the most willing U.S. leader in generations to stoke the discord that helped send him to the White House.

Content to gamble that a sizeable chunk of the electorate embraces his tweets that have been widely denounced as racist, the president made clear that he has no qualms about exploiting racial divisions once again.

“It doesn’t concern me because many people agree with me,” Trump said at the White House. “A lot of people love it, by the way.”

The episode served notice that Trump is willing to again rely on incendiary rhetoric on issues of race and immigration to preserve his political base in the leadup to the 2020 election.

COMMENT:-

This time Mr. Trump IS 100% correct - many Americans DO agree with him. They are quite on board with his suggestion that anyone who isn't white and male should not have any say in the governance of the United States of America and that they should all "go back where they came from" (regardless of whether they, and their parents, and their grandparents, and their great grandparents, and their great great grandparents were born in America).

Sad, isn't it?
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If the sad mentality of the cult followers understood what "White Nationalism of Wealthy White Male Dominance is and who it serves", they would be awakened to the fact the system of White Nationalism of Wealthy White Male Dominance don't give a s___ about "poor whites", and even less about minorities of any minority group. It was the same White Nationalist of the Well To Do and Wealthy Ranks, who created the term "poor whites" and as time moved forward they added the adjective "trash" to the label.

Most of these cult followers don't read history, they are fed daily "drama by right wing media" both TV and Radio... they refuse to actually read and learn truths that are not to be found on Right Wing Website and Certainly not delivered in right wing Media.

White Nationalism of Wealthy White Male Dominance, is driven by the principles of Plutocracy, and Autocratic motivations when it comes to monetary status and racial ethnicity. To those that don't understand what that means. It means, "they want money and power, and they want to dictate over the poor, yes, that means poor whites, and they want to dominate over minorities. But its not just a matter of blacks, or very brown skin minorities, but ethnic groups that don't fit with the WASP Wealthy Agenda.

It's truly a sad thing that these people who fall for the delusion of the word conservatism... have no idea what it means. It means, what it has always meant, which is: Tax money is to be spent on what benefits White Nationalism and the Wealthy white males who promote that system and its ideology, it is about "conserving the past"... the delusion of adding the world Fiscal... is a clarifies, which identifies the want, and agenda to spend tax money "only" where it benefits wealthy whites, and to cut the tax of wealthy whites so nothing of their resources go into supporting the government doing anything or poor whites, minorities and nothing to improve infrastructure in their communities nor in sectors of the states and cities where poor whites and minorities are concentrated.

In 20-25 yrs, the young will look back and wonder how their current day family members of the poor white ethnicity could be so blind and led like a cult, they will look back the same as generation looked back and wondered how their ancestry could have supported and endorsed slavery, and still again, some now look back and wonder how their ancestry could have been cooperative and supportive of segregation.
They will especially see those of day, as being "brainwashed with bigotry, bias and made into a cult of "guard dogs" for plutocrats, who have continued to keep them in the category as poor whites, while agitating racist ignorance to ensure they don't pay attention to their cult leader's who control them.

They still have not figured out, it was these same "White Nationalism of Wealthy White Male Dominance " who shipped the industry away from America and Created the $22 Trillion debt... and now they have the Senate Power, they don't give a damn about the National Debt... When they gave themselves a $ Trillion Plus tax relief, and have done nothing for infrastructure, and did so while we are still spending a $100's of Billions annually trying to dominate and dictate over people in the Middle East.
 
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j-mac said:
And others see it differently, that doesn't mean that they are racist, or that the President is racist, only that your opinion is that it came from a racially charged place, and you took the opportunity to broad brush everyone with your own slur....Nice.
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Oh come on

You know very well that is traditionally a racist term, you know that a rally had people chanting send her back.

The president is not an idiot, he knew what he was doing and how people would understand what he said
 
pamak said:
Here are some examples of TRump's bitching about America before he became president and after when he tried to defend Putin, lolol

Here's Trump hating on America. Is it time for him to leave? | US news | The Guardian

Crippled America
Trump’s 2015 book, Crippled America, was rife with critical quotes, referring to the country as “this mess” and “Uncle Sucker”, among other things, and took great pains to point out just how weak we had become.

The idea of American Greatness, of our country as the leader of the free and unfree world, has vanished … I couldn’t stand to see what was happening to our great country. This mess calls for leadership in the worst way.

Lots of killers
When asked during an interview with Bill O’Reilly in 2017 about his praise for Putin, Trump said America wasn’t much better. But was Putin was “a killer”, O’Reilly said. Trump replied:

There are a lot of killers. You think our country’s so innocent?
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Donald Trump: The master of 'disaster'
Trump calls NAFTA a "disaster"
Donald Trump: Jobs Numbers an "Absolute Disaster"
 
If the poor whites who aspire to Republican mentality truly take a look at programs that help them, they will find those programs were created by Modern Day Democrats... and it is Modern Day Democrats working to sustain those programs and make more programs that help "All" American people.

Democrats don't dislike the poor whites, and if Republican Poor whites actually pay attention and look, it is the Liberal Poor whites who are making strides, because they let go of their bias, and they don't fall for being racially driven and they don't promote racial animosity.. They get in and work with a multicultural society, and they advance as a collective of simply "people"... trying to make a better life, make life better and find ways to contribute to building a better nations.

It's really a sad thing, because no matter how much some try and awaken those who have been misled by Republican Ideals.. they simply can't bring themselves to let go of that... When they do.. they find they have a pathway to expand their potential, make a better life for their family, and they become less anguished and more hopeful and they become inspired to step forward with the changes of life and society.

Society will not go backwards, and the ideals of the Democratic Agenda is to move all people forward, and that means 'any' who want to come along. It simply requires a change in "thinking"... and many of these people will find its not so hard to move out from under the yoke of Republican agenda..

I've worked with some white people who said, they once followed that racist stuff and they were caught up in the right wing thinking, but something happened in their lives, that made them realize that people can and do accept them, and will work with them, help them and treat them as much with equality as anyone. I often see some of these people in general public, and they seem so much happier as just an individual, they don't struggle with trying to condemn everything, and they have real comfort with their diverse group of associates.

I'm sure other in this site have also met people who made transition from the grooming of the past that was common in their upbringing.

I'd suggest that many of these people who think there's no way out... Watch the movie "The Best Of Enemies".... and Watch the Movie "The Hate You Give".


We should teach understanding, not let anguish bring us to teach the young, bias, bigotry, racism and generalized ignorance. Everyone's Life is Important, and we all should care to leave in this world... the knowing that we contributed to make a better social and civic society.
 
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AProudLefty said:
What was so bad about America?
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It is not so much about America being bad but making it even greater. We will never reach utopia but we should continue as that our goal.
 
AProudLefty said:
You said you advocate for people who bitch about America to get out.
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Any particular President is NOT AMERICA. The country is a collection of many different people, ideologies, ideas...A President only is a snap shot of the electorates vote at any particular moment in history...America is larger than that.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Oh come on

You know very well that is traditionally a racist term, you know that a rally had people chanting send her back.

The president is not an idiot, he knew what he was doing and how people would understand what he said
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Pleading with me doesn't sway me....
 
j-mac said:
Any particular President is NOT AMERICA. The country is a collection of many different people, ideologies, ideas...A President only is a snap shot of the electorates vote at any particular moment in history...America is larger than that.
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Correct. Wish people would stop equating Trump with America.
 
Crosscheck said:
It is not so much about America being bad but making it even greater. We will never reach utopia but we should continue as that our goal.
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Then it should be Make America Greater.
 
AProudLefty said:
Correct. Wish people would stop equating Trump with America.
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But that's exactly what you were doing when you tried to equate Trump, or Obama with my statement about America....Now what? You realize that and are taking it back?
 
j-mac said:
But that's exactly what you were doing when you tried to equate Trump, or Obama with my statement about America....Now what? You realize that and are taking it back?
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Apparently you missed the point. Trump and his supporters accuse certain people of being anti-American because they criticize Trump.
 
JustHanging said:
As we've seen, neither do facts or reality, so there is that. ;)
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Not true...But, there is no more rational discussion on this site, so all we are left with is really dumb ass posts like this one.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From Associated Press

Trump digs in on racist tweets: ‘Many people agree with me’
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Defiant in the face of widespread criticism, President Donald Trump renewed his belligerent call on Monday for four Democratic congresswomen of color to get out of the U.S. “right now,” cementing his position as the most willing U.S. leader in generations to stoke the discord that helped send him to the White House.

Content to gamble that a sizeable chunk of the electorate embraces his tweets that have been widely denounced as racist, the president made clear that he has no qualms about exploiting racial divisions once again.

“It doesn’t concern me because many people agree with me,” Trump said at the White House. “A lot of people love it, by the way.”

The episode served notice that Trump is willing to again rely on incendiary rhetoric on issues of race and immigration to preserve his political base in the leadup to the 2020 election.

COMMENT:-

This time Mr. Trump IS 100% correct - many Americans DO agree with him. They are quite on board with his suggestion that anyone who isn't white and male should not have any say in the governance of the United States of America and that they should all "go back where they came from" (regardless of whether they, and their parents, and their grandparents, and their great grandparents, and their great great grandparents were born in America).

Sad, isn't it?
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A disgusting and despicable individual.:twisted:
 
AProudLefty said:
Correct. Wish people would stop equating Trump with America.
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Agree:

Trump tries to make those who follow him, think he is America..... when he get's caught in one of his lies and acts that degradate something, some one and attack our allies and side with dictators against our own governing agencies.... and people call him out on it... He wants to claim people as being again America. NO... he is not America, and those who follow him should stop equating him as if he is America. he is not the determiner of who is and who is not an America...

Trump is a belligerent, condescending and bigoted megalomaniac driven and hung up on monetary self measure and delusions of grandeur as if he is above all mankind. Any man walking around talking about he is smarter than all the Generals, he knows more about this or that than anyone and then proclaiming himself a genius.... is one who... is foolish.

If any of us saw someone on the public streets making such statement, we'd immediately deem such one to be a fool and spewing foolishness !!!! Those who follow such vile and malice minded haughitness... make unto and of themselves foolishness.

Any time he comes off with this, "many people have told me", and such type of comments... it is guaranteed that he has lied, or is trying to cover a lie, or trying to incite people with anguished madness at anyone who does not submit to him.
 
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TU Curmudgeon said:
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Trump digs in on racist tweets: ‘Many people agree with me’
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Trump is right to stand up to democrat commies and racists. He said nothing about "women of color." That is a favorite term among racist democrats seeking desperately to keep racist divisions alive in the US. Most Americans have moved on from decades old racist obsessions, but not democrats.
 
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