Trump 'didn't expect' to get laughed at while speaking at the UN (1 Viewer)

[rocket88]

You people have a very selective memory, no the recession didn't start with Obama but it did start with a Democratic Congress that Obama inherited along with the 2009 budget to sign and a stimulus passed almost day 1. I don't worship a President, I respect results and the ability to generate those results which Obama never had and never generated but perception is reality in your world not actual results.

I voted for an outsider and am happy with the results being generated. Whether or not Bush likes Trump is irrelevant to me. You people hated Bush but now because you claim he doesn't like Trump things have changed? Make up your mind, rhetoric or results?

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...akes-me-look-pretty-good-by-comparison-report

Bush says Trump makes him look good And He knocks Trump "according to the administration." Gee, where would anyone get the idea that they aren't great buddies?

If you "don't worship any President" it's hard to tell from your posts.

 

[VanceMack]

So the invisible and inaudible commenter is "in the video"? Uh-huh.
What exactly was this comment he was responding to?

He obviously commented to Trumps self praise. But the relevant part is...thats NOT when those attending laughed. They laughed at his brushoff of the heckling and anyone with a shred of integrity (that wasnt a mindless leftist twat) would have the character to admit it.

 

[VanceMack]

The most delightful part of this, and I not sure whether to call it irony or karma, maybe a bit of both. Trump before he became President was fond of saying, or tweeting, that the whole world is laughing at America. And now that has literally just happened. And look who it was that it happened to. You can't make this stuff up!

Oh...as you and others have proved...you can make up all kinds of ****.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Oh...as you and others have proved...you can make up all kinds of ****.

No one has to make up anything here. We all saw and heard it. The whole world did.

 

[VanceMack]

No one has to make up anything here. We all saw and heard it. The whole world did.

I highly doubt you did and if you did and are still making the same claims as the others you are lying.

 

[SkyFox76]

I highly doubt you did and if you did and are still making the same claims as the others you are lying.

i saw the laughing and I also saw Trump explain it today. He never mentioned this mysterious comment you speak of.

 

[D_NATURED]

I am truly embarrassed to see the 4 million new taxpayers, the GDP Growth that will exceed 3% this calendar year, all those part time for economic reason employees working full time

It is truly sad seeing so many Americans working, having more spendable income, and good jobs being created

Two words...DEFICIT SPENDING!

When will the conservatives stop bragging about how much they've stolen?

 

[JustHanging]

No one has to make up anything here. We all saw and heard it. The whole world did.

Now now. If they plug their ears hard enough, and close their eyes tight enough, maybe the laughter won't penetrate their bubble.

Sadly, another Trump supporter badly infected with TDS. It's become a real epidemic among his base.

 

[VanceMack]

i saw the laughing and I also saw Trump explain it today. He never mentioned this mysterious comment you speak of.

:lamo

You obviously didnt see the video....

 

[Erod]

As if we don't laugh and make fun of these weak, inferior, and useless countries on a daily basis.

 

[lurchadams]

Woodrow Wilson didn't have a 19.5 trillion-dollar economy and a world dependent on us for goods, services, and defense. You buy everything the left tells you and totally ignores the abuse this country is taken from foreign powers you're about to see a major change and I thank Trump for making most Americans aware of the problem.

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A world that can't depend on us any longer. As long as this maniac is president. Don't you feel unsafe?

 

[Peter King]

Got it, you are use to having politicians tell you what you want to hear and cater to countries around the world, true politicians that created the problems we face in this country. Now we have a President that puts this country first and that drives people like you crazy. Whether you respect Trump or not is irrelevant, the results trump that attitude of yours and others. Not being used to these politics is truly the issue, this President isn't going to be a punching bag like Bush and McCain were and is going to punch back

And now you are twisting my words into nonsense.

1. I was talking about Dutch politics, and they don't have a habit of telling people what they want to hear, here we have a more honest debate

2. cater to countries around the world? Huh? Being honest and respectful as a politician is catering to countries around the world?

3. No, partisan politics and the insane political system in which only 2 parties have a say is what caused the problems in the US. The middle ground, the people who are in the large majority are drowned out by the 2 extremer sides of their parties (both dems and GOP's have that problem).

4. No, you have a president that lies and preaches to a minority of the US (that actually like it) and the people who he is putting first is the ruling class, the rich, the corporations, the mighty, the 1 percent and it indeed drives me crazy, guilty as charged.

5. Bush and McCain were no punching bags, that is another fake comment (if you want to engage your presidents favorite words), they were tough and still were able to be better persons that Trump will ever be. They had a level of class, Trump has none.

 

[MSgt]

Trump did this? When?
Like Obama in Libya.
Trump campaigned against interventionist wars.

You missed the point. "Local outsiders" as in elected leaders who went on to practice autocratic tendencies, thereby destroying their democracies. As an outsider, he fits perfectly in line with so many other outsiders in the twentieth century who either laid the seeds for their own democracy's future destruction, or just pulled it down themselves. He fits best in the Erdogan (Turkey) and Fujimori (Peru) category, but there is some Chavez (Venezuela) in there.

ROTFLOL... no... when you cower from Red Lines, when you “lead with your behind”, when they do not believe a word you say... you look weak. That was Obama. The ME was happy to see his weak ass go.

Western allies could not depend on him... the maggot rescinded the shield from Poland on the day... the anniversary of the day Russia invaded Poland!!!

Tell Vladimir I will have more flexibility after election Komrade.
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Well, Obama's "wait-and-see" strategy was weak and he (along with the GOP) completely missed the opportunity that the Arab Spring presented.

But it is possible, in some circles, for a person to point out Obama's weaknesses in foreign policy without pretending that Trump is God's gift to the world. Trump, is absolutely far worse that Obama ever was. He is a walking contradiction to even his own 2017 National Security Strategy on many blatant levels. He has systemically weakened U.S. influence everywhere, wrecked U.S. credibility everywhere, and strengthened our bigger enemies hands on the geoeconomic, geopolitical, and military levels. But have no fear, he's all over the price of Dairy against those dastardly Canadians.

It just amazes me how some of you nurture your irrational hatreds for Obama to such an alarming degree that you purposefully choose to be so completely blind when it comes to Trump.

 

[Peter King]

Woodrow Wilson didn't have a 19.5 trillion-dollar economy and a world dependent on us for goods, services, and defense. You buy everything the left tells you and totally ignores the abuse this country is taken from foreign powers you're about to see a major change and I thank Trump for making most Americans aware of the problem.

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You sir are delusional if you think the world is dependent on the US for goods. The US exports for about 1.6 trillion, Germany about 1.4 trillion, China about 2.15 billion, Japan 683 billion, South Korea 578 billion, France 551 billion, Netherlands 526 billion, Italy 499 billion, Hong Kong 499 billion, the UK 437 billion and Canada 433 billion.

So the US exports 1.6 trillion, the next 10 countries together export 7.75 trillion. That is about 5 times the US exports. And that is only the top 10. The next 10 countries (Mexico, Singapore, Taiwan, Russia, Switzerland, UAE, Belgium, Spain, India and Saudi Arabia) export over 3.2 trillion, double the US exports.

The US might be a large exporter but to claim the world is dependent on the US for goods is just nonsense. The US imports more than it exports. The world trade is worth tens of trillions, the US might be a significant part of that trade but to claim the worlds depends on the US is just crazy talk.

The world depends on each other when trade is concerned, the world does not depend on 1 country.

 

[MSgt]

The communists within wrecked Venezuala's economy. The people who laughed are members of the government thst helped **** things up.

You are confusing two different things and defaulting to a simplification, after the fact, that is somewhat untrue. Chavez was elected by far more than just communists and Venezuela's fall from democracy had far more to do with Chavez, not aspects of communism. Chavez' economic policy, which involved aspects of communism and fascism, is why Venezuelans experience great shortages. But his policy also involved an express rebuking of American trade relations, petro-defiance, and goods. By obliterating trade with the U.S., he turned to China to help fund his overspending on social programs (giving the people what they wanted). All of this added to the shortages, ranging from hydroelectricity shortages, to food shortages, to a lack of toilet paper.

DEMOCRACY:

Chavez was another outsider who railed against what he cast as a corrupt government elite while promising to save democracy. He tapped into the angry crowd, many of whom felt ignored or mistreated by the establishment. He won as a populist who used seething tactics to denigrate his political opponents as "enemies" and began railing against the free press for any criticism. After his political allies won in the 1999 elections for a new constituent assembly, he re-wrote the constitution. All the while, he blasted the media and closed down stations, arrested political rivals, judges and media figures. A few years later, in 2003, he began packing the supreme court. By now, the media found it easier to ignore Chavez, thus leaving only those who supported him a free hand to glorify him. It was his successor, Maduro in 2015, who took this further by imprisoning political opponents prior to elections. And in 2017, when a new single-party constituent assembly usurped Congress completely, Venezuela was widely -and officially- recognized as an autocracy.

This is how Chavez ruined Venezuelan democracy. Others in the twentieth century present similar stories when they planted the seeds to harm and even destroy their own democracies:

Peron (Argentina)
Corea (Ecuador)
Orban (Hungary)
Erdogan (Turkey)
Fujimori (Peru)
Putin (Russia)

Keep in mind, that these were elected outsiders and much of what they did was legal. By looking between the lines of their constitutions and disregarding the traditional norms that had always given their constitutions strength, thereby preserving their country's democracies, they all chipped away because they found it easier to navigate towards autocracy than to work within the messy grounds of democratic institutions. Between the executive and the congressional, these countries began abusing powers and privileges to the point where their constitutions meant nothing.

 

[zimmer]

You're speaking in bullet points, how about some factual history to your accusations?

Factual accusation: no great society has been created or sustained using Leftist economic ideas.

None. Not one.

Hence your impotent reply.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

The man is delusional. Maybe that's what they were laughing at.

Bro, he was speaking intentionally real slow for the translators .. and liberals.

 

[Thoreau72]

Bro, he was speaking intentionally real slow for the translators .. and liberals.

OK, thanks for the explanation. It's hard to make much sense from the crotch grabbing POTUS.

 

[Conservative]

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...akes-me-look-pretty-good-by-comparison-report

Bush says Trump makes him look good And He knocks Trump "according to the administration." Gee, where would anyone get the idea that they aren't great buddies?

If you "don't worship any President" it's hard to tell from your posts.

So now you like Bush and care what he says? Jimmy Carter says the same thing about Obama. What is hard for you to understand are results as you buy rhetoric and ignore them

 

[Conservative]

Two words...DEFICIT SPENDING!

When will the conservatives stop bragging about how much they've stolen?

Deficit spending? Where was that concern with Obama and his 9.3 trillion added to the debt? Talking about stealing? When will you condone LBJ and Democrats for putting SS and budget and replacing all the money with IOU's?

 

[Conservative]

A world that can't depend on us any longer. As long as this maniac is president. Don't you feel unsafe?

Again, rhetoric trumps actions in the liberal world in which you live Show me the actions of Trump that have made the world less safe? Interesting how you ignore any results to continue to focus on rhetoric and not once have you ever responded to direct questions like posting data to support your claims.

 

[Conservative]

And now you are twisting my words into nonsense.

1. I was talking about Dutch politics, and they don't have a habit of telling people what they want to hear, here we have a more honest debate

2. cater to countries around the world? Huh? Being honest and respectful as a politician is catering to countries around the world?

3. No, partisan politics and the insane political system in which only 2 parties have a say is what caused the problems in the US. The middle ground, the people who are in the large majority are drowned out by the 2 extremer sides of their parties (both dems and GOP's have that problem).

4. No, you have a president that lies and preaches to a minority of the US (that actually like it) and the people who he is putting first is the ruling class, the rich, the corporations, the mighty, the 1 percent and it indeed drives me crazy, guilty as charged.

5. Bush and McCain were no punching bags, that is another fake comment (if you want to engage your presidents favorite words), they were tough and still were able to be better persons that Trump will ever be. They had a level of class, Trump has none.

We have a President who isn't going to take crap from any other country and is going to tell you and them to their face the way it is going to be. You don't like it, tough, the results tell a different story, results you want to ignore.

Now all of a sudden you like Bush and McCain? Did you vote for either?

 

[Conservative]

You sir are delusional if you think the world is dependent on the US for goods. The US exports for about 1.6 trillion, Germany about 1.4 trillion, China about 2.15 billion, Japan 683 billion, South Korea 578 billion, France 551 billion, Netherlands 526 billion, Italy 499 billion, Hong Kong 499 billion, the UK 437 billion and Canada 433 billion.

So the US exports 1.6 trillion, the next 10 countries together export 7.75 trillion. That is about 5 times the US exports. And that is only the top 10. The next 10 countries (Mexico, Singapore, Taiwan, Russia, Switzerland, UAE, Belgium, Spain, India and Saudi Arabia) export over 3.2 trillion, double the US exports.

The US might be a large exporter but to claim the world is dependent on the US for goods is just nonsense. The US imports more than it exports. The world trade is worth tens of trillions, the US might be a significant part of that trade but to claim the worlds depends on the US is just crazy talk.

The world depends on each other when trade is concerned, the world does not depend on 1 country.

And as you have shown results mean nothing to you, explain the trade gap to us and how foreign countries have treated us fairly. Then respond to the following?

https://teanewyork.wordpress.com/2018/09/05/trump-is-winning-everywhere-joel-ross/

You have certainly bought the leftwing narrative again ignoring the actual results

 

[Conservative]

it's not a fantasy that Obama inherited a collapsed economy and that Trump inherited a good one. i have supported my argument. your refusal to recognize this does not bend reality.

There seems to be a problem you are having posting an explanation to the charts you post, Let me help you. Notice the employment numbers and the part time for economic reasons. Think Part time for economic reason employment is equal to or better than full time? Then notice the full time employment in your chart and when it got back to pre recession levels. Yours are pretty charts without context, data provides context

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Years: 2008 to 2018

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 146378 146156 146086 146132 145908 145737 145532 145203 145076 144802 144100 143369
2009 142152 141640 140707 140656 140248 140009 139901 139492 138818 138432 138659 138013
2010 138438 138581 138751 139297 139241 139141 139179 139438 139396 139119 139044 139301
2011 139250 139394 139639 139586 139624 139384 139524 139942 140183 140368 140826 140902
2012 141584 141858 142036 141899 142206 142391 142292 142291 143044 143431 143333 143330
2013 143292 143362 143316 143635 143882 143999 144264 144326 144418 143537 144479 144778
2014 145122 145161 145673 145680 145825 146267 146401 146522 146752 147411 147391 147597
2015 148113 148100 148175 148505 148788 148806 148830 149136 148810 149254 149486 150135
2016 150576 151005 151229 150978 151048 151164 151484 151687 151815 151939 152126 152233
2017 152076 152511 153064 153161 152892 153250 153511 153471 154324 153846 153917 154021
2018 154430 155215 155178 155181 155474 155576 155965

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12032194
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level - Part-Time for Economic Reasons, All Industries
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Hours at work: 1 to 34 hours
Reasons work not as scheduled: Economic reasons
Worker status/schedules: At work part time
Years: 2008 to 2018

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 4846 4902 4904 5220 5286 5540 5930 5851 6148 6690 7311 8029
2009 8046 8796 9145 8908 9113 9024 8891 9029 8847 8979 9114 9098
2010 8530 8936 9233 9178 8845 8577 8500 8800 9246 8837 8873 8935
2011 8470 8464 8645 8652 8576 8427 8281 8788 9166 8657 8447 8171
2012 8305 8238 7775 7913 8101 8072 8082 7974 8671 8203 8166 7943
2013 8151 8178 7722 7964 7937 8103 8099 7816 7764 7936 7718 7827
2014 7302 7304 7451 7516 7260 7425 7400 7169 7007 7031 6885 6817
2015 6820 6693 6653 6622 6643 6386 6234 6411 6025 5807 6159 6027
2016 5960 6021 6099 6027 6491 5751 5898 5977 5893 5955 5719 5554
2017 5776 5670 5500 5309 5268 5264 5236 5209 5148 4880 4851 4915
2018 4989 5160 5019 4985 4948 4743 4567

 

[Conservative]

gladly.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_economic_expansions_in_the_United_States

not too shabby, especially considering the economy that the previous administration inherited from Bush. do i give Obama sole credit for the good economy that Trump inherited? nope. do i think that letting a moron make major economic decisions unilaterally might **** it all up? yep.

You see, here is your problem, monthly changes in employment and employment rate charts look great but the problem is the numbers are skewed by both part time for economic reasons and discouraged workers. When I asked for your explanation of the charts I get silence and understand why.

When the recession started there were 146 million people employed including 4.8 million part time for economic reason employment. When Obama took office with a Democratic Congress that passed his stimulus almost day one the employment dropped to 138 million by the end of 2009 with 9.1 million part time for economic reason employment included in that number and 139 million with 8.3 million part time for economic reason employees in that number two years later.

At the end of the Obama term there were 152 million employed with 5.7 million part time for economic reason employees in that number which are numbers you want to ignore as the part time numbers never got back to pre recession levels as the U-6 shows. Who do you think those people who wanted full time jobs but couldn't find them in the Obama economy voted for?

Your chart on full time employees shows a similar result where full time didn't get back to pre recession levels until 2014 showing the failure of the stimulus and Obama economic policies.

So if you are going to post charts do so with context, pretty charts but meaningless except to radicals who want to look foolish when confronted with context

Wonder who is laughing now at the Trump results of 156 million employed with 4.6 million part time for economic reason employees and historic low discouraged workers?