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Trump and Republicans prove they are unable to govern in their Covid 19 response

PoS said:
Because America isnt a dictatorship? If you want the government to run everything you and the other lefties can move to China or NK. The governors at the state level should be in charge, because its how the Federal government works.
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Yet the federal government is all up in the states' mouths like forks and spoons.
 
Jay59 said:
C-

No snap and little originality. Are you sure you want this line of work?


I did not realize I would be called on to critique bad attempts at humor. That's not analysis. It's an explanation of a literary reference.

Trump is winning by looking Presidential in a crisis. This is not difficult.
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Since when is ignorant and at a loss "presidential"?

Here's a clue: if you're doing a great job you don't need to tell us you're doing a great job several times a day. You don't need to include yourself in every positive thing that happens.
 
PoS said:
The last time we had a Brit telling America what to do, we threw him out, in 1776.
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Ooh, that hurt!:roll: While you're at it, could you tell me how you saved our arses in WW2 again? I never tire of hearing that story.
 
iguanaman said:
I have never seen such incompetence in the Federal Govt. Fema is unable to handle the procurement and distribution of needed Medical supplies so each of the 50 States must bid against each other to grab what they can for themselves. What is the reason for this failure? It is one that will definitely cost American lives. Why can't Trump grow a pair and take the reigns on this? It is inexcusable and grounds for his removal. I'm really am sorry to say this but it is what it is.
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COVID 19 deaths. Highly valued.
Seasonal flu deaths. It's seasonal.
 
Perotista said:
The folks looking out deep dark blue tinted glasses can't see their flaws the same as those wearing deep red tinted glasses. Whether FEMA takes over or whether Trump should initiate that isn't the question or the problem I had with your post. My problem was you stating that 89% of Republicans want more people to die. That is an pure asinine statement out of pure political partisanship politics. They don't want more people to die anymore than the Democrats do.

If you think Trump flubbed the handling of this crisis, fine. I've no problem with that, everyone has an opinion when it comes to Trump. But to state because most Republicans want people to die, that I couldn't stay quiet about. If 89% of Republicans want people to die because they support and approve of Trump's response to this pandemic, so too do the 48% of independents, and 12% of Democrats which make up 50.2% of all America. Your way of thinking is just over half of all Americans want more people to die only because they approve so far of Trump's handling of the situation. Only those who disapprove, currently 46.3% want people to live.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of President Trump's Handling of the Coronavirus
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It looks to me like the."get back to work I need my profits. Most of you will live, quit whining!" cadre had his ear for a bit there. Whatever Fauci has on trump that lets him contradict him in real-time I'm really glad he has it or we'd all be screwed right now.
 
Trump is an insecure idiot. We shouldn't expect anything from him or his Yes men.
 
iguanaman said:
So passing partisan blame while our caregivers are crying for help is what you have become? Shame on you. FEMA is not doing their job and I want to know why.
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The whole "Its actually the individual state governors that are responsible. Its not the feds' job" is kinda belied by the very existence of a Federal Emergency Management Agency dontcha think?

It's right there in the name.
 
Jay59 said:
Look at the thread title. The thread is dedicated to bashing Trump. Non-cultist like you and I are not welcome.


The best irony is almost always unintentional.


He's the one saying you are overreacting. The next two weeks are going to be ugly, partly because we are just starting to get tests broadly available. By the end of the month we could be past the worst, so taking the bet might be the smart play.
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Us stupid liberals in our ****ed up liberal state of California are on track, using the same models as the administration is now using, to peak April 18th without exceeding our hospital capacity.

Please stand by your red states who didn't comply with social distancing and stay there while they burn.
 
snakestretcher said:
Trump has won nothing, ever. Even his election was a fluke of your electoral college. He has been a loser his entire life; his father would tell you if he was still alive.
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I love it someone makes an absolute statement, then immediately provides a counter example, disproving the statement. Bravo. It's also a bit silly, because Trump threw out large chunks of Obama's legacy his first week in office. That's a win.

He also placed two Supreme Court Justices and reformed the federal bench, pushed tax reform through, passed the First Step Act, moved the embassy to Jerusalem, defeated ISIS, found a way to curtail the flood of illegal immigrants, survived Mueller, crushed impeachment, rewrote dozens of trade deals, and so on. It's a long and impressive list, which is why the Republican party is so solidly behind him. He has not only stayed in office--a win in itself--he has been more effective than any President of either party since Reagan.

Next time bring some facts. Perhaps you won't get embarrassed again.

What if...? said:
Wait, what winning are you referring to? Doesn't seem like anybody is winning right now. And we know for certain that you think anything he does is winning. History is gonna excoriated grump over this. And he will live to see it irrevocably written. That is our only solace.
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It appears you will die unfulfilled. History will praise him. Long after the abrasive personality is forgotten, his impact will endure.
 
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Jay59 said:
I love it someone makes an absolute statement, then immediately provides a counter example, disproving the statement. Bravo. It's also a bit silly, because Trump threw out large chunks of Obama's legacy his first week in office. That's a win.

He also placed two Supreme Court Justices and reformed the federal bench, pushed tax reform through, passed the First Step Act, moved the embassy to Jerusalem, defeated ISIS, found a way to curtail the flood of illegal immigrants, survived Mueller, crushed impeachment, rewrote dozens of trade deals, and so on. It's a long and impressive list, which is why the Republican party is so solidly behind him. He has not only stayed in office--a win in itself--he has been more effective than any President of either party since Reagan.

Next time bring some facts. Perhaps you won't get embarrassed again.
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Little of what you have written is true. No wall, only the rich got a tax break; yours expire in 2025, ISIS has not been defeated, those trade deals are little different from their predecessors and have yet to be ratified. Oh, he moved an embassy? Big ****ing deal; he just guaranteed that his 'peace plan' will fail.
Any other glowing 'achievements' you want to mention before I school you again?
 
What if...? said:
The whole "Its actually the individual state governors that are responsible. Its not the feds' job" is kinda belied by the very existence of a Federal Emergency Management Agency dontcha think?

It's right there in the name.
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But if inaction bumps off a bunch of Social Security recipients; it's a big win, right?
 
snakestretcher said:
Little of what you have written is true. No wall, only the rich got a tax break; yours expire in 2025, ISIS has not been defeated, those trade deals are little different from their predecessors and have yet to be ratified. Oh, he moved an embassy? Big ****ing deal; he just guaranteed that his 'peace plan' will fail.
Any other glowing 'achievements' you want to mention before I school you again?
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The tax law was passed. Fact. ISIS is not significantly active in the middle east. Fact. The number of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border is reduced. Fact. REagan, both Bush's and Obama planned to move the embassy, but none did. Fact.

Bring some facts next time.
 
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AncientGeek said:
But if inaction bumps off a bunch of Social Security recipients; it's a big win, right?
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Yeah. That will mean there's a surplus to skim to give pork to donors.

Can't have it remain solvent. Gotta get that money in the market....and it's gone.
 
Perotista said:
Personally, I think it's a shame our two major parties can't come together, work together to beat this thing instead of continuing on with their partisan politics as usual. This makes me think neither party gives a damn about anything but gaining a political advantage.
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Is Trump leading us in terms of being non-partisan, or partisan? He's setting the tone, I'm sorry to say. He has the bully pulpit. We don't hear Nancy and Chuck or Biden all day on TV or a twitter, it's Trump, the leader of the country.

Now, if you've watched his briefings, a reporter asked him that exact question. Why President Trump, were you just calling for bipartisanship, and then for 8 straight days since then, you've publicly attacked prominent Democrats in he briefings and on twitter. Don' t you have a responsibility to lead by example on this?

Trump said no. If he feels someone sleights him, he attacks back.
They also asked him if the bucks stops with him. He said no.

That's not filtered, that's not partisan. That's what the leader of the nation told you, from the White House. Just those two statements alone would have been a month long scandal of epic proportions in earlier administrations. But now, people don't even see it for the constant deplorable day after day, month after month (excluding CV19 crowding out now). I mean, they are still talking about Hillary's ****ing emails....that's the extend of how bad Democrats were apparently.

You have a feud mentality president Perotista. You can blame "both parties", but both parties didn't win the leadership of the nation, and both parties don't stand on that briefing room podium.
Right wing crazy propaganda went from fringe, to mainstream. It elected a president. We have an extremist right wing president put into power by absolutely bat-**** crazy right wing, 100% partisan media. They *have* to have an enemy to attack, and it's liberals, and now liberals + media. They must attack them, to exist...whether you do anything or not it's the same.
 
Perotista said:
I'm not a doctor and I don't know the best way to take care of this. But under the circumstances I would think the leaders of this nation, from both political parties can sit down together and come up with a plan. If that is letting FEMA take over all medical supplies, so be it. But it does seem neither party want to cooperate with the other.
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FEMA doesn't require anything other than the president's orders to take action.

This is all on Trump.
 
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