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Too Many Guns, Another Example

Rich2018 said:
After some research it seems Mexican can but must restrict them to their own houses/property.
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Mexicans can't own any gun chambered in a caliber used by the military
 
Rich2018 said:
So a Mexican can't buy a pistol in 9mm or the Mexican army doesn't use that caliber ?
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Type of firearms permitted Edit
In regard to what type of firearms are permitted, Title II, Chapter I, Article 9 of the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives states:

(translated) It may be kept or carried, under the terms and limitations established by this law, weapons of the following characteristics:[27]
Semi-automatic handguns of caliber no greater than .380 (9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9×17mm). Left excepted are calibers .38 Super and .38 commander, and also calibers 9mm. [Such as] Mauser, Luger, etc., as well as similar models of the same caliber of the excepted, from other brands.
Revolvers of calibers no greater than .38 Special, left excepted is caliber .357 magnum.
Land tenure owners, common land owners and farmworkers outside urban zones, may keep and carry, upon registration, one weapon of those already mentioned, or a .22 caliber rifle, or a shotgun of any caliber, except those of a barrel length shorter than 25 inches (635mm) and of caliber greater than 12 gauge (.729" or 18.5 MM).
Additionally, Article 10 of the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives states:

(translated) The firearms that can be authorized to participants of shooting or hunting, to keep in their home or to carry with a license, are the following:[28]
Semi-automatic handguns, revolvers and rifles of caliber .22, rimfire ammo
Handguns of .38 caliber for Olympic shooting or other competition
Shotguns in all their calibers and models, except those with a barrel length shorter than 25 inches, and calibers greater than 12 gauge.
Triple-barrel shotguns in the calibers authorized in the preceding section, with a barrel for metallic cartridges of different caliber.
High-powered rifles, of repeating or semi-automatic function, non-convertible to full-auto, with the exception of .30 caliber carbines, rifles, muskets and carbines caliber .223, 7 and 7.62mm, and Garand rifles caliber .30.
High-powered rifles of greater caliber than those mentioned in the previous section, with special permission for their use abroad, for hunting of game bigger than those present in national wildlife.
Under these two articles, private citizens are generally restricted to semi-automatic handguns or revolvers of a caliber no greater than .380 (for home defense),[29] rifles no greater than .22, and shotguns no greater than 12 gauge (hunting and shooting when a member of a club). Anything bigger than those calibers is considered for exclusive use of the military and strictly forbidden for civilian possession, as defined by Article 11 of the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives.[30] Only citizens with collector permits may be authorized to possess firearms outside those permitted for civilian ownership.

Firearms regulation in Mexico - Wikipedia
 
You don't need to translate:


1.Semi-automatic handguns of caliber no greater than .380 (9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9×17mm).


So Mexicans can buy and keep a gun using the same caliber ammunition as the military.
 
Rich2018 said:
You don't need to translate:


1.Semi-automatic handguns of caliber no greater than .380 (9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9×17mm).


So Mexicans can buy and keep a gun using the same caliber ammunition as the military.
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9mm Browning, Kurz etc is not the same as 9mm Parabellum, Luger etc.

You jump to the funniest conclusions.
 
Rich2018 said:
So the Browning 9mm Hi Power doesn't fire 9mm Browning cartridges ?
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No. It fires 9mm Luger. Some are/have been chambered for .40 S&W.
 
RF667799 said:
No. It fires 9mm Luger. Some are/have been chambered for .40 S&W.
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Well there you go. You'd think a 9mm Browning carriage would fit a Browning 9mm pistol.


According to Wiki though Mexican citizens are allowed to own semi-automatic handguns of caliber no greater than .380 (9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9×17mm)


Which implies they could own a Browning Hi Power.


Firearms regulation in Mexico - Wikipedia
 
Rich2018 said:
Well there you go. You'd think a 9mm Browning carriage would fit a Browning 9mm pistol.


According to Wiki though Mexican citizens are allowed to own semi-automatic handguns of caliber no greater than .380 (9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9×17mm)


Which implies they could own a Browning Hi Power.


Firearms regulation in Mexico - Wikipedia
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No, it does not imply that.
 
RF667799 said:
9mm Browning, Kurz etc is not the same as 9mm Parabellum, Luger etc.

You jump to the funniest conclusions.
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Why would assuming the Browning 9mm cartridge can be fired from the Browning 9mm pistol be illogical ?

In any case the Mexican law states no larger than .380
 
Rich2018 said:
Well there you go. You'd think a 9mm Browning carriage would fit a Browning 9mm pistol.


According to Wiki though Mexican citizens are allowed to own semi-automatic handguns of caliber no greater than .380 (9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9×17mm)


Which implies they could own a Browning Hi Power.


Firearms regulation in Mexico - Wikipedia
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I'm pretty sure it will fit. Try one and get back with us.
 
Rich2018 said:
Why would assuming the Browning 9mm cartridge can be fired from the Browning 9mm pistol be illogical ?

In any case the Mexican law states no larger than .380
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A 9mm Luger is "larger" (more powerful) than a .380 ACP. Which is also sometimes known as a 9mm Browning, as that is who designed the cartridge. It wont work in a Browning Superposed either.
 
Rich2018 said:
Why would assuming the Browning 9mm cartridge can be fired from the Browning 9mm pistol be illogical ?

In any case the Mexican law states no larger than .380
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Because the Browning High Power (name of the pistol) fires 9MM Parabellum AKA 9MM Luger 9x19.

9MM Browning AKA .380 is 9x17.
 
RF667799 said:
I'm pretty sure it will fit. Try one and get back with us.
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So easy for a casual gun owner to walk away with the wrong ammo.

Until recently I didn't know a .357 Magnum round fitted a .38 Special revolver pistol.
 
Rich2018 said:
So easy for a casual gun owner to walk away with the wrong ammo.

Until recently I didn't know a .357 Magnum round fitted a .38 Special revolver pistol.
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OMFG....

Fail.

A .38 round will work in a .357 revolver or rifle. .357 SHOULD NOT be used in .38 revolvers
 
Rich2018 said:
So easy for a casual gun owner to walk away with the wrong ammo.

Until recently I didn't know a .357 Magnum round fitted a .38 Special revolver pistol.
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Yes, it behooves one to gain a little knowledge before mucking around with guns. Or cars. Or chainsaws. Or rushing head first in with a half baked argument.
 
Fledermaus said:
OMFG....

Fail.

A .38 round will work in a .357 revolver or rifle. .357 SHOULD NOT be used in .38 revolvers
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.357 Magnum has a longer case length to prevent it being loaded in most .38 Special revolvers. Because Rich.
 
RF667799 said:
Yes, it behooves one to gain a little knowledge before mucking around with guns. Or cars. Or chainsaws. Or rushing head first in with a half baked argument.
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Is the past tense of that behoofed ?


Guns being a necessity is the half baked if not downward dishonest argument.
 
RF667799 said:
.357 Magnum has a longer case length to prevent it being loaded in most .38 Special revolvers. Because Rich.
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Sorry I took a course, run by a former policeman, here in Georgia and fired a .38 Special cartridge from a .357 Magnum pistol.

They do fit.
 
Rich2018 said:
Sorry I took a course, run by a former policeman, here in Georgia and fired a .38 Special cartridge from a .357 Magnum pistol.

They do fit.
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Yes, that's what has been explained to you by Fled. He explained, "A .38 round will work in a .357 revolver or rifle."
 
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