This is why you never trust people like Schiff

[ludin]

Document reveals Ukraine had already reopened probe of Hunter Biden-linked firm months before Trump phone call | Fox News

A newly unearthed document shows that Ukrainian officials had opened a new probe into the firm linked to Hunter Biden months before President Trump's phone call with that country's leader, Fox News contributor John Solomon reported late Tuesday.

"The U.S. government had open-source intelligence and was aware as early as February of 2019 that the Ukrainian government was planning to reopen the Burisma investigation," he claimed. "This is long before the president ever imagined having a call with President Zelensky," he added, noting Petro Poroshenko was still Ukraine's president at that time.

"This is a significant shift in the factual timeline."

Solomon said the information he obtained, including documents shown on "Hannity" Tuesday, was omitted from a U.S. intelligence community whistleblower's complaint lodged against Trump last month.
Solomon said that NABU -- an FBI-like anti-corruption agency in Ukraine -- requested the probe into Burisma and owner Mykola Zlochevsky be reopened earlier this year. The investigation then went forward, Solomon said. The new probe later resulted in a "Notice of Suspicion" being filed, alleging the existence of "illicit funds" running through the firm, Solomon also claimed.

The younger Biden was reportedly paid as much as $1 million per year for his time on the board, but Solomon said investigators in Ukraine filed a 15-page "notice of suspicion" indicating they were "looking at the possibility that the $3.4 million paid to Hunter Biden's firm may have been part of the illicit funds that were moving through the company."

"A month later, in April, the prosecutor's office -- open-source intelligence, again -- the U.S. government officials confirming they were aware of this -- made a request of another investigative agency in Ukraine for assistance in going through these bank records," Solomon claimed.

The WB needs to testify as to why he lied.
schiff needs to testify as to why this was left out of evidence?

I told you people that this whole thing stunk to high heaven and schiff was behind the stench.

This is probably what trump was talking if he was talking about investigations at all.
wow finally the truth comes out.

 

[Lovebug]

Pro Trump news from the Trump echo chamber.

 

[ecofarm]

It's a Hannity exclusive for more than one reason.

 

[Hypothetical]

BOOM! i knew that... to put it VERY nicely...guy.. needed to be investigated further.

 

[ecofarm]

BOOM! i knew that... to put it VERY nicely...guy.. needed to be investigated further.

It's moronic bs. Don't be a sucker.

 

[Drowning Man]

If this is true, then why did Trump need to pressure Zelenskyy into announcing an investigation and why didn't Zelenskyy announce that investigation?

If this is true, the most that you have proved is that Trump's abuse of power was stupid...not that it wasn't there...

 

[Hypothetical]

It's moronic bs. Don't be a sucker.

we shall see. I fully believe that Hunter Biden made a lot of money by having the VP as his dad for one reason or another. we need an unbiased investigation into why that was. perhaps it was all legal and on the up and up, but it need to be looked at... again.

 

[ludin]

Pro Trump news from the Trump echo chamber.

how is ukraine government pro trump echo chamber?

 

[ludin]

If this is true, then why did Trump need to pressure Zelenskyy into announcing an investigation and why didn't Zelenskyy announce that investigation?

If this is true, the most that you have proved is that Trump's abuse of power was stupid...not that it wasn't there...

It is true they have the document. did you not read?
Zelensky just took over he probably wasn't aware of it yet.

Trump didn't pressure anyone unless you want to call zelensky a liar.

 

[ecofarm]

we shall see. I fully believe that Hunter Biden made a lot of money by having the VP as his dad for one reason or another. we need an unbiased investigation into why that was. perhaps it was all legal and on the up and up, but it need to be looked at... again.

The strange thing is not a single organization under Trump's direction is doing so. Why's that?

 

[Drowning Man]

we shall see. I fully believe that Hunter Biden made a lot of money by having the VP as his dad for one reason or another. we need an unbiased investigation into why that was. perhaps it was all legal and on the up and up, but it need to be looked at... again.

Good thing that the Trump's kids aren't profiting from their dad's position, then, huh...

 

[Sampson Simpson]

we shall see. I fully believe that Hunter Biden made a lot of money by having the VP as his dad for one reason or another. we need an unbiased investigation into why that was. perhaps it was all legal and on the up and up, but it need to be looked at... again.

So what? People get on boards for their connections, their knowledge, all the time. Boards are often diverse as well, don't need all people experts in the particular field, you need other expertise. Boards are also very political as well. Company is free to put anyone on their board. you think that is the first time someone benefitted from their dad being president? Bush's entire career was him getting positions he was unqualified for because of his dad (even presidency)

Do you ignore Trumps kids making millions off their position in the White House? Running around getting access to state secrets, conducting business in foreign countries they are working on setting policy with, selling things to benefit from Daddy's presidency, representing the US in big meetings when she isn't even a confirmed cabinet position, among all the other garbage.

Someone with no credentials to do anything that they are doing. And who daddy had to force teh FBI to clear them, because they were compromised.

But yeah, worry about Hunter Biden, who isn't even in politics and has dick all to do with Trumps corruption

 

[ecofarm]

unless you want to call zelensky a liar.

First, why would that be a problem.

Second, we know why Zel demurred and later admitted the pressure and concerted effort by Trump goons and the White House.

 

[less right]

Document reveals Ukraine had already reopened probe of Hunter Biden-linked firm months before Trump phone call | Fox News

A newly unearthed document shows that Ukrainian officials had opened a new probe into the firm linked to Hunter Biden months before President Trump's phone call with that country's leader, Fox News contributor John Solomon reported late Tuesday.

"The U.S. government had open-source intelligence and was aware as early as February of 2019 that the Ukrainian government was planning to reopen the Burisma investigation," he claimed. "This is long before the president ever imagined having a call with President Zelensky," he added, noting Petro Poroshenko was still Ukraine's president at that time.

"This is a significant shift in the factual timeline."

Solomon said the information he obtained, including documents shown on "Hannity" Tuesday, was omitted from a U.S. intelligence community whistleblower's complaint lodged against Trump last month.
Solomon said that NABU -- an FBI-like anti-corruption agency in Ukraine -- requested the probe into Burisma and owner Mykola Zlochevsky be reopened earlier this year. The investigation then went forward, Solomon said. The new probe later resulted in a "Notice of Suspicion" being filed, alleging the existence of "illicit funds" running through the firm, Solomon also claimed.

The younger Biden was reportedly paid as much as $1 million per year for his time on the board, but Solomon said investigators in Ukraine filed a 15-page "notice of suspicion" indicating they were "looking at the possibility that the $3.4 million paid to Hunter Biden's firm may have been part of the illicit funds that were moving through the company."

"A month later, in April, the prosecutor's office -- open-source intelligence, again -- the U.S. government officials confirming they were aware of this -- made a request of another investigative agency in Ukraine for assistance in going through these bank records," Solomon claimed.

The WB needs to testify as to why he lied.
schiff needs to testify as to why this was left out of evidence?

I told you people that this whole thing stunk to high heaven and schiff was behind the stench.

This is probably what trump was talking if he was talking about investigations at all.
wow finally the truth comes out.

Sorry. I couldn't slog through your whole post because the headline stopped me.

Why did Trump ask for an investigation if one was already going on?

Maybe the answer is in the title. A "Hunter Biden linked firm" is not an investigation of Biden and Trump wanted a "Biden investigation" not just a corruption investigation.

Schiff was right.

 

[Drawdown]

If this is true, then why did Trump need to pressure Zelenskyy into announcing an investigation and why didn't Zelenskyy announce that investigation?

If this is true, the most that you have proved is that Trump's abuse of power was stupid...not that it wasn't there...

Trump asked him to investigate, not "announce an investigation". Try to actually offer facts not DNC talking points once in awhile.

 

[Hypothetical]

The strange thing is not a single organization under Trump's direction is doing so. Why's that?

maybe because he knows how Dems will blow it up into holy hell while his impeachment for trying to do so is still going on. maybe because he'd rather work with the PM of Ukraine to investigate it since that is where the company in question is located.

 

[ecofarm]

Trump asked him to investigate, not "announce an investigation". Try to actually offer facts not DNC talking points once in awhile.

The aid was predicated on announcement, not investigation. Trump doesn't care about any investigation; if he did then he'd have directed an agency to do so.

 

[Mr Person]

we shall see. I fully believe that Hunter Biden made a lot of money by having the VP as his dad for one reason or another. we need an unbiased investigation into why that was. perhaps it was all legal and on the up and up, but it need to be looked at... again.

Joe Biden is the candidate. To the extent his actions had anything to do with Burisma, it was to expose Bursima to greater potential liability by helping remove a corrupt prosecutor that wasn't investigating Bursima. He had nothing to do with Hunter getting on the board. And nothing about Hunter Biden taking free money from a company that thought it might be buying access is wrong unless Joe Biden gave Bursima some kind of underhanded access.

The whole thing is ****. Anyone with their eyes open and an honest eye knows this was all only ever about damaging Joe Biden.




Joe announces his candidacy, Trump suddenly becomes concerned about corruption around the world, and it's just a coincidence that the only alleged corruption he is worried about is on the part of a new candidate's son? I've got a bridge on Mars to sell you if you think that makes any sort of sense.

The GOP is also concerned about things like justice, which is consistent with them fully coordinating with the defendant in the case they are to judge, announcing that they have no intention of being impartial, stonewalling right along with Trump, and it's just just a coincidence that the only witness they want to hear form is Joe Biden? I've got a bridge to sell you on Betelguese V if you're buying that. I'll even give you keys to the Heart of Gold for a day.

 

[Drawdown]

Joe Biden is the candidate. To the extent his actions had anything to do with Burisma, it was to expose Bursima to greater potential liability by helping remove a corrupt prosecutor that wasn't investigating Bursima. He had nothing to do with Hunter getting on the board. And nothing about Hunter Biden taking free money from a company that thought it might be buying access is wrong unless Joe Biden gave Bursima some kind of underhanded access.

The whole thing is ****. Anyone with their eyes open and an honest eye knows this was all only ever about damaging Joe Biden.




Joe announces his candidacy, Trump suddenly becomes concerned about corruption around the world, and it's just a coincidence that the only alleged corruption he is worried about is on the part of a new candidate's son? I've got a bridge on Mars to sell you if you think that makes any sort of sense.

Investigating criminal activity is usually damaging to the criminal. In this case, Joe violated the Hobbs Act.

 

[Grandpappy]

Actually, John Solomon's journalism has pretty much been spot on.
The MSM are no longer investigative journalists.
They're just copy and paste propagandists. Believe them at your peril.

 

[ludin]

First, why would that be a problem.

Second, we know why Zel demurred and later admitted the pressure and concerted effort by Trump goons and the White House.

prove he was lying then.

 

[Hypothetical]

So what? People get on boards for their connections, their knowledge, all the time. Boards are often diverse as well, don't need all people experts in the particular field, you need other expertise.

Do you ignore Trumps kids making millions off their position in the White House? Running around getting access to state secrets, conducting business in foreign countries they are working on setting policy with, selling things to benefit from Daddy's presidency, representing the US in big meetings when she isn't even a confirmed cabinet position, among all the other garbage.

Someone with no credentials to do anything that they are doing. And who daddy had to force teh FBI to clear them, because they were compromised.

But yeah, worry about Hunter Biden, who isn't even in politics and has dick all to do with Trumps corruption

ya well if they start making an exorbitant amount of money from other countries who they may have extorted or done other favors to make said money, comes to light and they seem to only have been useful in being there to help launder the money, AND their dad brags about getting someone fired that may have had something to DO with said circumstance, we should then investigate them as well.

and spare me with "facts" from your favorite left wing sources, as I do not abide by them. I will believe it when the courts or a seemingly unbiased investigator says otherwise.

 

[ludin]

Sorry. I couldn't slog through your whole post because the headline stopped me.

Why did Trump ask for an investigation if one was already going on?

Maybe the answer is in the title. A "Hunter Biden linked firm" is not an investigation of Biden and Trump wanted a "Biden investigation" not just a corruption investigation.

Schiff was right.

it is not my job to educate you on the subject if you can't read then that is your problem.
no schiff was wrong and not only wrong but possibly committed some crimes with him and his
staff helping the WB submit knowingly false information.

 

[Mr Person]

Joe Biden is the candidate. To the extent his actions had anything to do with Burisma, it was to expose Bursima to greater potential liability by helping remove a corrupt prosecutor that wasn't investigating Bursima. He had nothing to do with Hunter getting on the board. And nothing about Hunter Biden taking free money from a company that thought it might be buying access is wrong unless Joe Biden gave Bursima some kind of underhanded access.

The whole thing is ****. Anyone with their eyes open and an honest eye knows this was all only ever about damaging Joe Biden.




Joe announces his candidacy, Trump suddenly becomes concerned about corruption around the world, and it's just a coincidence that the only alleged corruption he is worried about is on the part of a new candidate's son? I've got a bridge on Mars to sell you if you think that makes any sort of sense.

The GOP is also concerned about things like justice, which is consistent with them fully coordinating with the defendant in the case they are to judge, announcing that they have no intention of being impartial, stonewalling right along with Trump, and it's just just a coincidence that the only witness they want to hear form is Joe Biden? I've got a bridge to sell you on Betelguese V if you're buying that. I'll even give you keys to the Heart of Gold for a day.

Investigating criminal activity is usually damaging to the criminal. In this case, Joe violated the Hobbs Act.

:lamo

Interested in one of the bridges? Both? I'll cut you a special deal. Two for the price of one, and you get the keys for three days. But we have to close this within the next half hour.

 

[ecofarm]

prove he was lying then.

He later claimed that Trump pressured him and sent goons. Trump admitted pressuring him on more than one occasion and we know the Rudy goons were playing mobster with the ambassador. We also know that Rudy lobbied for the announcement.