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This is now 16 Women that have Accused Trump of Sexual Attacks

Sabre said:
Facts? An accusation is not a fact unless you are a lib and they are about a conservative.

Remember a join statement from Tom Foley and George Mitchell?



and that is where you are with this!
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Fact is that 24 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. If you can find ONE other case in history where a man has been accused by so many people and then found innocent of the accusations, I will kowtow to you. Right now and by the amount of women accusing him, the chances of his being guilty of at least some of the accusations is over 99.9%.

If you require 100% proof before deciding on whether the man that is in charge of your life and of all those that you care for is guilty, then you are a gullible person or simply a fool.
 
Luckyone said:
If you require 100% proof before deciding on whether the man that is in charge of your life and of all those that you care for is guilty, then you are a gullible person or simply a fool.
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"Who needs that "proof" ****? He's guilty cuz I said so!"
Is that what you're saying?
 
Sixteen, sch-mixteen....

Before it's all over, Trump's gonna **** us all. Why bother counting?
 
vegas giants said:
I know. Remember all those sexual misconduct allegations against Obama. Lol

You will believe anything


You grab them by the p###y
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This lady is selling a book. Never said one word before and now with a book coming out, what's the best way to sell lots of copies?
 
Moderate Right said:
This lady is selling a book. Never said one word before and now with a book coming out, what's the best way to sell lots of copies?
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All 24 of them are selling books?

Dude...you have to be kidding
 
Roadvirus said:
"Who needs that "proof" ****? He's guilty cuz I said so!"
Is that what you're saying?
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Not me saying it. There are 24 women saying it and those kinds of numbers show guilt if only because it is virtually impossible that all of those women are lying.

If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

If Trump was a person that was not in charge of the welfare of 350 million people and his guilt or innocence did not affect anyone in any way and it meant jail or freedom, I would be willing to wait until "proven without a shadow of a doubt" came to pass. Nonetheless, when so many people depend on this man's character, personality and decision making abilities, proving his innocence without a shadow of a doubt is pure folly. I am not trying to put him in jail and cost him his freedom, but I definitely do not want a man making decisions that affect me, my family, my community, my state and my country that even places himself in a position of there being 24 people that accuse him of sexual misconduct.

I asked this question of others yesterday and I would like to ask you the same question.

Would you allow your young daughter to be tutored alone in the man's house if the man had been accused by 24 women of sexual misconduct but never proven guilty?

If you would not allow it to happen, then how can you allow the same person to run your country? If you would allow it, it would mean that yo have no thoughts of preventing your daughter from suffering the same fate as the other 24 women that accused him. It would also mean that you trust this particular man that you do not know personally with the safety of your daughter.

Think about this question and be at least truthful to yourself. That is of course, if you have a family and care about them.
 
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Alleged folks, alleged. Covington, la Crosse, Smollet.
 
Lovebug said:
Alleged folks, alleged. Covington, la Crosse, Smollet.
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I suggest you and all the Trump cult members here read this 100% verified story:

Ivanna (Trump's ex wife) said:

"During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me.

"I wish to say that on one occasion during 1989, Mr Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage.

"As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness which he normally exhibited toward me, was absent. I referred to this as a 'rape,' but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.

"Any contrary conclusion would be an incorrect and most unfortunate interpretation of my statement which I do not want to be interpreted in a speculative fashion and I do not want the press or media to misconstrue any of the facts set forth above.

"All I wish is for this matter to be put to rest."

Donald Trump and his ex-wife Ivana Trump attend The Eric Trump 8th Annual Golf Tournament at Trump National Golf Club Westchester on 15 September, 2014
After The Daily Beast ran their story about the rape allegations made in the book, Ms Trump released a statement to CNN to say: “I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald. The story is totally without merit.

"Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised three children that we love and are very proud of.

The divorce case between Donald and Ivana Trump was granted on the grounds of his "cruel and inhuman treatment" of her, according to a report in the New York Times in December 1990.

Ivana Trump was also subject to a gag order, which stops her from talking about her marriage to Donald Trump without his permission.
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and..........

In The Mad World of Donald Trump, English television presenter Selina Scott claimed Mr Trump became "extremely abusive" and wrote 13 letters attacking her when he realized he wouldn't have control over a profile film she was making about him.

She said: “It surprises me that any woman in America can vote for this guy.”
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If nothing else, this divorce clearly states that he treated his wife in a cruel and inhuman way.

Nothing more was ever said and nothing of the rape was ever proven but the gag order that she signed clearly suggests that a monetary agreement was made to keep her quiet.

If you treat your own wife in a cruel and inhuman way (proven fact by a court document he signed) does suggest that you have no morals, ethics, principles, or humanity. Not that such treatment does not happen often among marriages that break up but then add 24 accusations of sexual misconduct, a tape with Trump clearly saying "he goes up to them and kisses them in the mouth" and then he also says that "you can grab them by the ***** and they allow you to" and then him having sex wit a porn star and a playboy bunny while married and his wife was having a baby, makes his defense unsupportable by any common sense guidelines.
 
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Luckyone said:
I suggest you and all the Trump cult members here read this 100% verified story:

Ivanna (Trump's ex wife) said:



She (Trump's own wife) went on to say:



If nothing else, this divorce clearly states that he treated his wife in a cruel and inhuman way.

Nothing more was ever said and nothing of the rape was ever proven but the gag order that she signed clearly suggests that a monetary agreement was made to keep her quiet.

If you treat your own wife in a cruel and inhuman way (proven fact by a court document he signed) does suggest that you have no morals, ethics, principles, or humanity. Not that such treatment does not happen often among marriages that break up but then add 24 accusations of sexual misconduct, a tape with Trump clearly saying "he goes up to them and kisses them in the mouth" and then he also says that "you can grab them by the ***** and they allow you to" and then him having sex wit a porn star and a playboy bunny while married and his wife was having a baby, makes his defense unsupportable by any common sense guidelines.
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let me suggest to you that " innocent until proven guilty" is a matter of law, not cult.
 
Lovebug said:
let me suggest to you that " innocent until proven guilty" is a matter of law, not cult.
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Let me say to you, this is not about proving his guilt but proving his decision making abilities that he would even put himself in a position such as this. The Hollywood tape, the Stormy Daniels and playboy bunny affairs, the lying about it, and then 24 different women accusing him that is the question. Those events are already fact. The only other president that ever had anything even related to this was Bill Clinton and it turned out he was guilty. Thinking Trump is innocent is beyond reason.
 
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Luckyone said:
Fact is that 24 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. If you can find ONE other case in history where a man has been accused by so many people and then found innocent of the accusations, I will kowtow to you. Right now and by the amount of women accusing him, the chances of his being guilty of at least some of the accusations is over 99.9%.

If you require 100% proof before deciding on whether the man that is in charge of your life and of all those that you care for is guilty, then you are a gullible person or simply a fool.
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Thank you very much for your assessment of me, I can't tell what I think of it and you, really I can't - the board has rules. By the way, that's 2.
 
Just because a liberal says a thing doesn’t make it true, chances are more likely that it’s a lie!
 
Sabre said:
Thank you very much for your assessment of me, I can't tell what I think of it and you, really I can't - the board has rules. By the way, that's 2.
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I made no assessment of you given that I don't know you. I made a general statement about those that require 100% proof under these conditions are in my opinion either gullible or fools. You are the one that made the association, not me.
 
Luckyone said:
Let me say to you, this is not about proving his guilt but proving his decision making abilities that he would even put himself in a position such as this. The Hollywood tape, the Stormy Daniels and playboy bunny affairs, the lying about it, and then 24 different women accusing him that is the question. Those events are already fact. The only other president that ever had anything even related to this was Bill Clinton and it turned out he was guilty. Thinking Trump is innocent is beyond reason.
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So where does that leave us? Morality? How about killing the unborn or condoning whatever pleasure? Let us not be hypocrites. Let us not start about Christianity either, because you either believe or you don't. Moral outrage. Let those who are without sin cast the first stone. Please. We aren't electing the pope but a human being.
 
Lovebug said:
So where does that leave us? Morality? How about killing the unborn or condoning whatever pleasure? Let us not be hypocrites. Let us not start about Christianity either, because you either believe or you don't. Moral outrage. Let those who are without sin cast the first stone. Please. We aren't electing the pope but a human being.
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Trump is president and he is the one making decisions and therefore he is the one with the cross to bear. Killing the unborn and condoning whatever pleasure is your opinion and even if you are correct, they have no ability to make it happen without others agreeing to it. We do decide things in a democratic way, don't we? Trump is making decisions that affect all of us right now without it even being discussed with others and his ability to make those decisions is what we need to ascertain.
 
Luckyone said:
I made no assessment of you given that I don't know you. I made a general statement about those that require 100% proof under these conditions are in my opinion either gullible or fools. You are the one that made the association, not me.
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Eh, no.... Your statement was "If you require 100% proof before deciding on whether the man that is in charge of your life and of all those that you care for is guilty, then you are a gullible person or simply a fool."

You
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[yo͞o, yə]

PRONOUN
1.used to refer to the person or people that the speaker is addressing.

I was the only person you were directly addressing, had you truly meant it in a general sense it would be thus: "If one requires 100% proof before deciding on whether the man that is in charge of their life and of all those that they care for is guilty, then they're a gullible person or simply a fool".

You are correct, you do not know me, I don't you but, I believe you are smart enough to know the differences of word usages.
 
Lovebug said:
let me suggest to you that " innocent until proven guilty" is a matter of law, not cult.
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Did you know that it's illegal to shout out "fire!" in a theater? Anyway, if there was one or five women at the most that came forward with allegations of sex crimes committed by this man, I could let it pass as nothing more than women looking for some exposure to fame. But...sixteen? Sixteen women that you believe are ALL lying and who have put themselves out in the public eye for scrutiny, for being harassed on social media and Fox network, subjected to being embarrassed and humiliated? Nope, I don't buy that at all especially since it has already been proven that he paid hush money to two women that he had sex with to shut them up. Know why he paid them? Because they were 'someone'. Karen McDougal was one of Hugh Hefner's 'girls' before Trump got his hooks into her and Stormy Daniels is very well known in her field and also being a pretty well-known director of porn films. They were both more high profile with big connections and he had to pay for their silence.

But the others, Jessica Leeds for example. She claimed Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt during a flight to New York in the 1970s. In a 2017 interview, Leeds said that when she saw Trump at a fund-raising gala three years after the airplane encounter, he referred to her as a c---. Jessica Leeds is an older woman now of course, 40 years later, so Trump was able to dismiss her easily with his base. Because she's an older woman people like you dismiss her just as easily.

The real truth is that you and others in his base defend it by saying it 'they have no real proof', and yes, it's his word against theirs except in the cases of McDougal and Stormy Daniels. The fact is you just simply do not care if he's a sexual predator, it's not important that he has sexually mistreated women. I guess you must have to be a woman, like myself, that has experienced unwanted and uninvited sexual molestation to understand what these women have been through.
 
Sabre said:
Eh, no.... Your statement was "If you require 100% proof before deciding on whether the man that is in charge of your life and of all those that you care for is guilty, then you are a gullible person or simply a fool."

You
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[yo͞o, yə]

PRONOUN
1.used to refer to the person or people that the speaker is addressing.

I was the only person you were directly addressing, had you truly meant it in a general sense it would be thus: "If one requires 100% proof before deciding on whether the man that is in charge of their life and of all those that they care for is guilty, then they're a gullible person or simply a fool".

You are correct, you do not know me, I don't you but, I believe you are smart enough to know the differences of word usages.
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Or......

2.

used to refer to any person in general.

"after a while, you get used to it"
 
Luckyone said:
All 24 of them? Highly improbable.
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Not nearly so improbable as the likelihood that they're all women of impeccable character and integrity.

It is Trump, after all. At this point, I'd disbelieve the MSM, if it claimed he once drank a glass of water.
 
NoC_T said:
It is Trump, after all. At this point, I'd disbelieve the MSM, if it claimed he once drank a glass of water.
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Of course you would. It's amazing what excuses people can come up with to justify their hypocrisy.
 
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