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The US economy will grow by an extra $7 trillion over the next decade due to immigration, the CBO says

Bye, bye.
We know how developed economies eventually face stagnation in population growth, and that it necessarily limits future output. This has been established across the orthodox economic paradigm. There can be no denial.

Furthermore, your following post was equally cringe. It's about your feelings. Nobody cares. While I can't deny the longer term relationship between productivity growth and per-capita output, that does not in any way substantiate your claim that immigration is detrimental to society. Sure, extreme circumstances can lead to shortages, but capitalism requires both population growth and / or technological transformation.

See Japan.
 
We know how developed economies eventually face stagnation in population growth, and that it necessarily limits future output. This has been established across the orthodox economic paradigm. There can be no denial.

Furthermore, your following post was equally cringe. It's about your feelings. Nobody cares. While I can't deny the longer term relationship between productivity growth and per-capita output, that does not in any way substantiate your claim that immigration is detrimental to society. Sure, extreme circumstances can lead to shortages, but capitalism requires both population growth and / or technological transformation.

See Japan.

Your repeating of another superficial, simple minded, and popular myth compel me to answer this one. Population stabilization (what you call stagnation) is irrelevant to GDP growth PER CAPITA (as opposed to aggregate growth). In fact, very low population growth countries that are shrinking like Finland, Taiwan, and Japan have been doing just fine or excelling on per capita basis, while most of the countries with very high population growth rates are impoverished dung holes.

More to the point, if quality of life is important, then you have to face the reality that the continued population growth of a country or of the planet means an accelerating need for more water from aquifers, rivers, and lakes. It means a greater and growing demand for energy, greater urban expansion, more density, more air pollution, traffic, and loss of land and open space. There are certain things there is only so much of (eg land) and unless you aspire to live in the density level of a crowded Japan or Hong Kong more immigration isn't a solution, its a problem.

The socalled "population problem" has zero to do with having more unskilled landscapers and dishwashers. It actually a temporary demographic concern of a bulge of aging non producers (eg baby boomers) and the declining numbers of young workers to fund them. And this problem is acute because at least some western countries created an entitlement Social Security system designed as an intergenerational Ponzi scheme. And like all such cons, it required a huge and growing base of workers to support many fewer retirees.

Moreover, what is often overlooked by non economists is that in addition to the retired old, there is the trend of extended childhoods, from the elimination of child labor generations ago to the increasingly longer period before grown children leave the home and become net contributors. And unlike the old and retired who do have savings and investments that provide the economy capital, "biff and buffy" only become tax net contributors after 25 (depending on their level of employment).

Now in the longer run baby boomers in the west will die off, and if support services are still shrinking then younger folk will have to get a job sooner. Frivolous, expensive, and unnecessary higher education will be less of a problem and society will benefit by no longer have less demand (and higher prices) on housing, water, energy etc resources .
 
Your repeating of another superficial, simple minded, and popular myth compel me to answer this one. Population stabilization (what you call stagnation) is irrelevant to GDP growth PER CAPITA (as opposed to aggregate growth).
Population stabilization? 🤣

The population is getting older. Specifically, there are going to be a higher percentages of the population retired and not producing, which alters the way economics operate.

Nominal per capital output is dependent on technology and government debt. Smaller countries with vast amounts of natural resources will have a slight advantage.
In fact, very low population growth countries that are shrinking like Finland, Taiwan, and Japan have been doing just fine or excelling on per capita basis
Low population growth that are shrinking huh? Come on... technology and public debt. This is simply a matter of fact.
while most of the countries with very high population growth rates are impoverished dung holes.
These are developing economies.
More to the point, if quality of life is important, then you have to face the reality that the continued population growth of a country or of the planet means an accelerating need for more water from aquifers, rivers, and lakes. It means a greater and growing demand for energy, greater urban expansion, more density, more air pollution, traffic, and loss of land and open space.
That's capitalism. See Japan.
There are certain things there is only so much of (eg land) and unless you aspire to live in the density level of a crowded Japan or Hong Kong more immigration isn't a solution, its a problem.
When more of the population is 60+... it becomes a problem. They require more technological transformation and public debt to maintain growth.
The socalled "population problem" has zero to do with having more unskilled landscapers and dishwashers.
Study up on growth economics.
It actually a temporary demographic concern of a bulge of aging non producers (eg baby boomers) and the declining numbers of young workers to fund them.
Temporary demographic concern? 🤣
And this problem is acute because at least some western countries created an entitlement Social Security system designed as an intergenerational Ponzi scheme.
ALL developed economies.
Moreover, what is often overlooked by non economists is that in addition to the retired old, there is the trend of extended childhoods, from the elimination of child labor generations ago to the increasingly longer period before grown children leave the home and become net contributors. And unlike the old and retired who do have savings and investments that provide the economy capital, "biff and buffy" only become tax net contributors after 25 (depending on their level of employment).
You're refuting your own position.
Now in the longer run baby boomers in the west will die off, and if support services are still shrinking then younger folk will have to get a job sooner. Frivolous, expensive, and unnecessary higher education will be less of a problem and society will benefit by no longer have less demand (and higher prices) on housing, water, energy etc resources .
Made up nonsense. Japan is only the first to begin experiencing the demographic time bomb. Immigration is the solution. Your xenophobic tirade is pure trash.
 
Illegal immigrants are being lured into the USA by stalwart conservative patriots who want to make bucks off cheap labour.
It's quicker, easier and cheaper than relocating to Mexican maquiladora zones.
We could solve illegal immigration in a day if we were willing to jail the business owner or CEO of publicly held companies to 48 hours in jail for every undocumented worker found working in their company. Not the hiring manager or the head of HR...the boss.
 
Your repeating of another superficial, simple minded, and popular myth compel me to answer this one. Population stabilization (what you call stagnation) is irrelevant to GDP growth PER CAPITA (as opposed to aggregate growth). In fact, very low population growth countries that are shrinking like Finland, Taiwan, and Japan have been doing just fine or excelling on per capita basis, while most of the countries with very high population growth rates are impoverished dung holes.

More to the point, if quality of life is important, then you have to face the reality that the continued population growth of a country or of the planet means an accelerating need for more water from aquifers, rivers, and lakes. It means a greater and growing demand for energy, greater urban expansion, more density, more air pollution, traffic, and loss of land and open space. There are certain things there is only so much of (eg land) and unless you aspire to live in the density level of a crowded Japan or Hong Kong more immigration isn't a solution, its a problem.

The socalled "population problem" has zero to do with having more unskilled landscapers and dishwashers. It actually a temporary demographic concern of a bulge of aging non producers (eg baby boomers) and the declining numbers of young workers to fund them. And this problem is acute because at least some western countries created an entitlement Social Security system designed as an intergenerational Ponzi scheme. And like all such cons, it required a huge and growing base of workers to support many fewer retirees.

Moreover, what is often overlooked by non economists is that in addition to the retired old, there is the trend of extended childhoods, from the elimination of child labor generations ago to the increasingly longer period before grown children leave the home and become net contributors. And unlike the old and retired who do have savings and investments that provide the economy capital, "biff and buffy" only become tax net contributors after 25 (depending on their level of employment).

Now in the longer run baby boomers in the west will die off, and if support services are still shrinking then younger folk will have to get a job sooner. Frivolous, expensive, and unnecessary higher education will be less of a problem and society will benefit by no longer have less demand (and higher prices) on housing, water, energy etc resources .
All of worries are also economic activity. You neglect to add in that most undocumented workers in America are not acting as landscapers or dishwashers. Most are visa overstays or ar working in healthcare, something Americans are not getting from our native population.
 
All of worries are also economic activity. You neglect to add in that most undocumented workers in America are not acting as landscapers or dishwashers. Most are visa overstays or ar working in healthcare, something Americans are not getting from our native population.

I addressed population stabilization, GDP interactions, impacts on our quality of life, demographic bulges that are shrinking, and that the socalled population problem is not cured by getting more unskilled and uneducated for low level service jobs.

How is that relevant to "forgetting visa overstays"? For the purpose of this analysis it does not matter HOW the unskilled get here, it only matters that of those who get here illegally and then stay to sink roots, they are not the sort of folk needed to replace retiring skilled, education, and literate workers.

And, the overwhelming majority of illegals are in these jobs.
 
I addressed population stabilization, GDP interactions, impacts on our quality of life, demographic bulges that are shrinking, and that the socalled population problem is not cured by getting more unskilled and uneducated for low level service jobs.

How is that relevant to "forgetting visa overstays"? For the purpose of this analysis it does not matter HOW the unskilled get here, it only matters that of those who get here illegally and then stay to sink roots, they are not the sort of folk needed to replace retiring skilled, education, and literate workers.

And, the overwhelming majority of illegals are in these jobs.
Visa overstays are not, in general, low-skilled or uneducated.
 
I addressed population stabilization, GDP interactions, impacts on our quality of life, demographic bulges that are shrinking, and that the socalled population problem is not cured by getting more unskilled and uneducated for low level service jobs.
You did not. What we were gifted was an offer generalized and highly uninformed montage.
, they are not the sort of folk needed to replace retiring skilled, education, and literate workers.
They are not the ones replacing skilled workers. Try to keep up!
And, the overwhelming majority of illegals are in these jobs.
That you are both unqualified for and refuse to do.
 
Regrettably - only rarely.
As will be the case until it makes sense for low- automation (which typically is the most expensive).
 
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