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The UK Prime Minister speaks in Philadelphia

It wasn't the UK Prime Minister, it was the UK conservative leader.

Since she only talked to republicans in congress, and not ALL members of congress.

And since she was highly partisan.

More shameful division from the GOP .

So democrats can't be accused of causing division?


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OMG, I love what she said today! She's strong, and well spoken.

She's also a patsy. The only UK PM who had any semblance of equality with his American counterpart was Churchill. The "Special Relationship" has never been special since nor has it been a relationship.

That phrase only sells to the part of the UK public who still hanker after days of empire and world leadership.

~ On the other hand conservatives will probably enjoy it ~

May can't hold a candle to Thatcher and she certainly doesn't deserve being in the same sentence. This will be May's relationship with the Trumpster ~

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She's also a patsy. The only UK PM who had any semblance of equality with his American counterpart was Churchill. The "Special Relationship" has never been special since nor has it been a relationship.

That phrase only sells to the part of the UK public who still hanker after days of empire and world leadership.



May can't hold a candle to Thatcher and she certainly doesn't deserve being in the same sentence. This will be May's relationship with the Trumpster ~

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How sick, how low, how very cheap and tawdry.
 
She's also a patsy. The only UK PM who had any semblance of equality with his American counterpart was Churchill. The "Special Relationship" has never been special since nor has it been a relationship.

That phrase only sells to the part of the UK public who still hanker after days of empire and world leadership.



May can't hold a candle to Thatcher and she certainly doesn't deserve being in the same sentence. This will be May's relationship with the Trumpster ~

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I find your opinion irrelevant.
 
I find your opinion irrelevant.

Funny, that's pretty much what every US Pres has said to our PMs over the last 40 years. Until you need British blood on the battlefield and then we are best friends.

How sick, how low, how very cheap and tawdry.

And how very true. History will show she is the same patsy most UK PM;s have been to US presidents.
 
It wasn't the UK Prime Minister, it was the UK conservative leader.

Since she only talked to republicans in congress, and not ALL members of congress.

And since she was highly partisan.

More shameful division from the GOP .

And even if she were the UK prime minister, she is mostly the leader of England (plus Wales possibly) but not speaking for Scotland and possibly not speaking for Northern Ireland.

Also, misses May is delusional, the UK and the US leading the world? The US maybe but the UK? I am not sure there will be a UK if she chooses to go for a hard Brexit. Scotland has already said it would entertain the idea of a Scoxit from the UK and membership of the EU rather than remaining part of the UK. And who knows what Northern Ireland will do.

And what is England? With the power of the city under serious threat from the Brexit? It is not like the English economy and political leadership is the "envy of the world". They are not the strongest European country, that is Germany.

IMO, not a lot of people want to be "lead" by Theresa May, not even inside the UK, but most certainly not in the Europe or the world. Her pathetic attempt to sound important is ludicrous. Trump does not need her and if she thinks she is a mighty leader than she is delusional to boot.
 
It's over!!!! Churchill is back in the oval office, thank heavens for that....:roll:

Thank goodness! Now whenever there's a man-made famine crisis Trump can kiss his fingers and pat Winston's bust and remember how to really punish the poor.
 
Thank goodness! Now whenever there's a man-made famine crisis Trump can kiss his fingers and pat Winston's bust and remember how to really punish the poor.

I made that post in jest but if you think Churchill's legacy is how he handled the poor I'll kindly remind that he got reelected after labour.

P.S one last time 4-0
 
I made that post in jest but if you think Churchill's legacy is how he handled the poor I'll kindly remind that he got reelected after labour.
I doubt he'd have won election as lavatory attendant in India, which was what I was referring to re: man-made famine. His genocidal policies in the early-40s pretty much guaranteed the end of the Raj.

But I was being less than 100% serious. I loathe the reverence the uneducated but nationalist-inclined show for Churchill. More fool them if they let Trump soft-soap them with childish gestures.

P.S one last time 4-0
I'm aware that was your first win over us in 8 attempts, but you probably need to get over it, Higgins. Tell me, how did your FA Cup 4th round tie go? :shock:
 
WITH PIZZAZZ

May can't hold a candle to Thatcher and she certainly doesn't deserve being in the same sentence. This will be May's relationship with the Trumpster

Why should she?

Thatcher came to DC to see a movie-star who shared her loathing for communism. (It was this same guy who implemented the taxation-scheme that has made Income Disparity so acute in the US.)

Both were dorks in terms of economics - I doubt Reckless Ronnie could even spell the word. And Thatcher's preference was a bust-up at "Barlaymont in Brussels" (HQ of the EU's administration arm) just to show the boys "who's boss".

She did absolutely nothing for the British economy and, when things got tough for her economically, she invented a pocket-war on an island of the coast of Argentina that was of no strategic consequence whatsoever.

May is doing the best she can for a Britain that has idiotically voted to leave the EU. It will be nice to see the aftermath of both Scotland leaving GB and Northern Ireland joining the mainland to remain in it. She left Washington empty-handed, indicating how desperate she is to indicate "something meaningful" after 7 months at the helm - and nothing to show for it. Here meeting in Turkey was a non-starter as well. The woman is looking helpless.

When the Brits go off the deep end, they do it with pizzazz ...
 
WITH PIZZAZZ



Why should she?

Thatcher came to DC to see a movie-star who shared her loathing for communism. (It was this same guy who implemented the taxation-scheme that has made Income Disparity so acute in the US.)

Both were dorks in terms of economics - I doubt Reckless Ronnie could even spell the word. And Thatcher's preference was a bust-up at "Barlaymont in Brussels" (HQ of the EU's administration arm) just to show the boys "who's boss".

She did absolutely nothing for the British economy and, when things got tough for her economically, she invented a pocket-war on an island of the coast of Argentina that was of no strategic consequence whatsoever.

May is doing the best she can for a Britain that has idiotically voted to leave the EU. It will be nice to see the aftermath of both Scotland leaving GB and Northern Ireland joining the mainland to remain in it. She left Washington empty-handed, indicating how desperate she is to indicate "something meaningful" after 7 months at the helm - and nothing to show for it. Here meeting in Turkey was a non-starter as well. The woman is looking helpless.

When the Brits go off the deep end, they do it with pizzazz ...


Except got inflation under control and during her boom managed to get the economy growing at 4% (on average) every year, whilst turning our financial sector into the world leading industry that it currently is, yeah you're right she did **** all for the economy.
 
Except got inflation under control and during her boom managed to get the economy growing at 4% (on average) every year, whilst turning our financial sector into the world leading industry that it currently is, yeah you're right she did **** all for the economy.

Destroyed our manufacturing sector; sold off the entire social housing stock at a loss to the public purse; privatised utilities and national enterprises for the benefit of her friends; brought inflation down at the cost of the highest level of unemployment in history; sacrificed 907 lives to reverse an Argentinian aggression that she virtually encouraged to happen.

Yeah, she was great. :roll:
 
And even if she were the UK prime minister, she is mostly the leader of England (plus Wales possibly) but not speaking for Scotland and possibly not speaking for Northern Ireland.

Also, misses May is delusional, the UK and the US leading the world? The US maybe but the UK? I am not sure there will be a UK if she chooses to go for a hard Brexit. Scotland has already said it would entertain the idea of a Scoxit from the UK and membership of the EU rather than remaining part of the UK. And who knows what Northern Ireland will do.

And what is England? With the power of the city under serious threat from the Brexit? It is not like the English economy and political leadership is the "envy of the world". They are not the strongest European country, that is Germany.

IMO, not a lot of people want to be "lead" by Theresa May, not even inside the UK, but most certainly not in the Europe or the world. Her pathetic attempt to sound important is ludicrous. Trump does not need her and if she thinks she is a mighty leader than she is delusional to boot.

May IS the Prime Minister of the UK, that is England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland. There is (alas!) no chance of Scotland leaving the UK. The polls show that even fewer Scots would vote for independence than was the case in the Sept 2014 referendum.

As the leader of the country with the 5th largest economy, and the one which is growing the fastest, and which is a Permanent Member of the UNSC May is not entirely unimportant. If an election is held in the UK within the next year or so - and it might be - May will win by a landslide.
 
Destroyed our manufacturing sector; sold off the entire social housing stock at a loss to the public purse; privatised utilities and national enterprises for the benefit of her friends; brought inflation down at the cost of the highest level of unemployment in history; sacrificed 907 lives to reverse an Argentinian aggression that she virtually encouraged to happen.

Yeah, she was great. :roll:

Wrong; wrong; wrong; wrong; and lets see now, um, wrong.


Lies are not turned into truths by the mere fact of repetition.

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May IS the Prime Minister of the UK, that is England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland. There is (alas!) no chance of Scotland leaving the UK. The polls show that even fewer Scots would vote for independence than was the case in the Sept 2014 referendum.
The polls showed that the UK would vote to remain, that Milliband would beat Cameron and that Hillary would beat Drumpf. Funny how you righties like to quote polls only when they echo your beliefs.
 
May IS the Prime Minister of the UK, that is England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland. There is (alas!) no chance of Scotland leaving the UK. The polls show that even fewer Scots would vote for independence than was the case in the Sept 2014 referendum.

As the leader of the country with the 5th largest economy, and the one which is growing the fastest, and which is a Permanent Member of the UNSC May is not entirely unimportant. If an election is held in the UK within the next year or so - and it might be - May will win by a landslide.

Only in name is she the prime minister of Scotland IMHO. And there is a chance of leaving the UK, if the economic hardships for Scotland worsen due to Brexit and the population changes it's mind than it can be that Scotland leaves the UK.

And she may be the prime minister, but she is not a chosen prime-minister and is as yet untested in elections.
 
Lies are not turned into truths by the mere fact of repetition.'
That doesn't seem to discourage YOU, judging by
Wrong; wrong; wrong; wrong; and lets see now, um, wrong.
But lies can be (eventually) replaced by truth through the repetition of facts.
 
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Except got inflation under control and during her boom managed to get the economy growing at 4% (on average) every year, whilst turning our financial sector into the world leading industry that it currently is, yeah you're right she did **** all for the economy.

Some suggested reading for you: Did Margaret Thatcher transform Britain's economy for better or worse?. Excerpt:
Reversing Britain's long-term economic decline. That was the daunting task Margaret Thatcher set herself when she arrived in Downing Street in May 1979 at the end of a traumatic decade that had seen a three-day week, inflation topping 25%, a bailout from the International Monetary Fund and the winter of discontent.

She gave it her best shot. The last remnants of the postwar consensus were swept away in the ensuing decade – a period that saw the crushing of the trade unions, the Big Bang in the City, council house sales, the privatisation of large chunks of industry, the encouragement of inward investment, tax cuts, attempts to roll back the state, a deep manufacturing recession, a boom in North Sea oil production, and support for the creation of a single market in Europe.

As far as her supporters are concerned, this radical transformation worked. Britain ceased to be the sick man of Europe and entered the 1990s with its reputation enhanced. The economy had become more productive, more competitive and more profitable. Deep-seated and long overdue reforms of the 1980s paved the way for the long 16-year boom between 1992 and 2008.

To her detractors, Thatcher is the prime minister who wiped out more than 15% of Britain's industrial base with her dogmatic monetarism, squandered the once-in-a-lifetime windfall of North Sea oil on unemployment pay and tax cuts, and made the UK the unbalanced, unequal country it is today.

The truth lies somewhere between these extremes.

In fact, though somewhat of a "celebrity figure" (any female PM would be in Britain), and despite the fact that she was infatuated by movie-star Reckless Ronnie, what she did for Britain is highly questionable. Britain started to lose its prominence in the Manufacturing Industry shortly after the war when it no longer needed to produce war-material. Which had a tremendous impact upon employment in non-Central parts of England. (In comparison to London's well-earned reputation as an innovative Finance mechanism.)

And Brexit will inevitably be the deathknell for what of auto-manufacturing is left, due to the import-tariffs that British car exports to the EU will face in the coming years. This is not just the handwriting on the wall, but simply a sad end to a tale that began a long time ago under Thatcher's administration. For instance, scroll down to the UK Unemployment Rate history (in this set of graphical stats here) showing that England's unemployment hit record highs during her administration (1979 to 1990). Those rates did not come back to pre-1976 levels until 2000 (ten years later). And who was PM by then?

The guy named "Tony" ...
 
Some suggested reading for you: Did Margaret Thatcher transform Britain's economy for better or worse?. Excerpt:

In fact, though somewhat of a "celebrity figure" (any female PM would be in Britain), and despite the fact that she was infatuated by movie-star Reckless Ronnie, what she did for Britain is highly questionable. Britain started to lose its prominence in the Manufacturing Industry shortly after the war when it no longer needed to produce war-material. Which had a tremendous impact upon employment in non-Central parts of England. (In comparison to London's well-earned reputation as an innovative Finance mechanism.)

And Brexit will inevitably be the deathknell for what of auto-manufacturing is left, due to the import-tariffs that British car exports to the EU will face in the coming years. This is not just the handwriting on the wall, but simply a sad end to a tale that began a long time ago under Thatcher's administration. For instance, scroll down to the UK Unemployment Rate history (in this set of graphical stats here) showing that England's unemployment hit record highs during her administration (1979 to 1990). Those rates did not come back to pre-1976 levels until 2000 (ten years later). And who was PM by then?

The guy named "Tony" ...

There is nothing "inevitable" about British cars - or other exports - facing tariffs when selling to lthe EU post-Brexit. The rest of the EU sells twice as much to the UK as it imports. A free trade deal will be very much to their advantage.

Since the Brexit vote the UK economy has continued to grow - faster than any other country in the G 20 - and unemployment is lower than it has been for decades. Those seeking informed comment on the UK would be well advised not to look in your direction.
 
There is nothing "inevitable" about British cars - or other exports - facing tariffs when selling to lthe EU post-Brexit. The rest of the EU sells twice as much to the UK as it imports. A free trade deal will be very much to their advantage.

Of course that presupposes that there would be no political consequences for the government of rapidly rising inflation, shortage of basic goods and consequent falling living standards. The government could slap 20% tariffs on imported goods, but since the UK is utterly dependent on imports - it imports 40% of all food consumed - that's going to have a huge impact on ordinary voters, just in time for the 2020 General Election.
 
The government could slap 20% tariffs on imported goods, but since the UK is utterly dependent on imports - it imports 40% of all food consumed - that's going to have a huge impact on ordinary voters, just in time for the 2020 General Election.
Or it could slap 100% on German cars and nothing on food.
Or it could slap 100% on European food and import American food.
Or it could slap 100% on Spanish strawberries and stop eating strawberries. The UK would survive.

If the EU wants a trade war to impose its emigrants and colonialism, I can assure you that both the UK and the EU will pay dearly for it.

Now at the same time, in the midst of our political crisis and economic stagnation, the USA will launch their own offensive against the EU, which could cost more than a million of jobs to Germany alone. And others like China will likely seize this opportunity to start comparable trade wars to grab better conditions. Predators feast from the weaklings.


Let's end the European imperialism and colonialism. Offer the UK a good deal that profits all of us, without imposing them our emigrants.

As for politics, economic troubles are bad for elections, but a foreign enemy is the best way to solder a people around its flag and leader. Pride and cohesion matter more than comfort; look at Russia. The UK has been disintegrating for decades and the Brexit seems to have accelerated this, but a vengeful attitude from the EU could revert all of this and spur a wave of nationalism.

Also beware that this trade war does not end up with an armed war. If the EU wants to play it hard, the UK is powerful enough to make retaliation against them way too expensive in most circumstances. We would not sacrifice ourselves to save Belgium or Luxembourg.
 
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There is nothing "inevitable" about British cars - or other exports - facing tariffs when selling to lthe EU post-Brexit. The rest of the EU sells twice as much to the UK as it imports. A free trade deal will be very much to their advantage.

Sorry but. The UK exports 44% to the EU. The biggest exporter to the UK from the EU, only exports 15% or so of its total exports.. So who do you think is going to get hit the hardest?

Since the Brexit vote the UK economy has continued to grow - faster than any other country in the G 20 - and unemployment is lower than it has been for decades. Those seeking informed comment on the UK would be well advised not to look in your direction.

Wait what... why use the G20 as a measure? Only 4 EU countries are in that group, including the UK. The rest are places like Saudi Arabia, Japan, Russia, Turkey, Mexico...The UK grew nicely, but there are plenty of EU and other industrialized countries that grew faster.. including Spain, the US, Sweden, South Korea, Turkey, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Romania and so on.
 
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