The Transgender Fad

[Good4Nothin]

You claimed that you guys are getting resistance.

No, I said the transgender activists will get resistance from liberals and progressives, as the activists get more extreme. Gosh, you are so good at reading things wrong.

 

[AProudLefty]

No, I said the transgender activists will get resistance from liberals and progressives, as the activists get more extreme. Gosh, you are so good at reading things wrong.

Then you didn't understand the post from the other guy you replied to.

 

[Lisa]

No, I said the transgender activists will get resistance from liberals and progressives, as the activists get more extreme. Gosh, you are so good at reading things wrong.

Who are transgendered activists and what do you belive their goal is?

 

[Good4Nothin]

Who are transgendered activists and what do you belive their goal is?

You want a complete list of all of them?

Transgender activists want transgender children to be supported and affirmed. There is nothing wrong with wanting that, but rushing into drug treatment is not a good way to support and affirm gender dysphoric children.

 

[Lisa]

You want a complete list of all of them?

Transgender activists want transgender children to be supported and affirmed. There is nothing wrong with wanting that, but rushing into drug treatment is not a good way to support and affirm gender dysphoric children.

The only people who suggest rushing children and teens into medication is you who then claim that it is problem. The diagnosis phase should be a very long and detailed process, of 6 month or longer by multiple people to eliminate the bias of any one person or the possibility that something may be missed. Nobody is pushing a child or a teen to take medication,. They are given permission to proceed as they feel comfortable and others feel that they are ready. The process stops as soon as the teen suggests that this may be the wrong course of action, despite your attempts to claim otherwise.

 

[Good4Nothin]

The only people who suggest rushing children and teens into medication is you who then claim that it is problem. The diagnosis phase should be a very long and detailed process, of 6 month or longer by multiple people to eliminate the bias of any one person or the possibility that something may be missed. Nobody is pushing a child or a teen to take medication,. They are given permission to proceed as they feel comfortable and others feel that they are ready. The process stops as soon as the teen suggests that this may be the wrong course of action, despite your attempts to claim otherwise.

They should not be allowed to take the blockers. No matter how many politically correct biased therapists tell them it's perfectly ok, harmless and reversible. There is no science to back up those reassurances.

 

[Lisa]

They should not be allowed to take the blockers. No matter how many politically correct biased therapists tell them it's perfectly ok, harmless and reversible. There is no science to back up those reassurances.

Therapists don't prescribe drugs because they are not MDs.

I'm sure the doctors who do prescribe them will care about your opinions when you had a medical degree, a specialty in endocrinology and 10 years of experience instead of reading blogs for a few years.

 

[Good4Nothin]

Therapists don't prescribe drugs because they are not MDs.

I'm sure the doctors who do prescribe them will care about your opinions when you had a medical degree, a specialty in endocrinology and 10 years of experience instead of reading blogs for a few years.

Oh really? Therapists who aren't MDs don't prescribe drugs?? I thought anyone could prescribe drugs. Thank you for teaching me!!

And oh, so sorry, I should not have expressed an opinion. Opinions about health are only for medical doctors. We must believe EVERYTHING they say! Even when they disagree with each other! After all, who are we to use our minds for thinking? If we are not an expert, we should just shut up and do whatever they tell us.

So sorry. If I express any more opinions here, please ignore them. I am not an MD. And I never even wrote a term paper on transgenderism.

 

[Lisa]

Oh really? Therapists who aren't MDs don't prescribe drugs?? I thought anyone could prescribe drugs. Thank you for teaching me!!

And oh, so sorry, I should not have expressed an opinion. Opinions about health are only for medical doctors. We must believe EVERYTHING they say! Even when they disagree with each other! After all, who are we to use our minds for thinking? If we are not an expert, we should just shut up and do whatever they tell us.

So sorry. If I express any more opinions here, please ignore them. I am not an MD. And I never even wrote a term paper on transgenderism.

Don't use the incorrect terminology if you seek to be corrected.

A therapist is a psychologist or psychiatrist, and while the psychiatrist is an MD they would not be prescribing hormones or blockers. The blockers and hormones would be prescribed by an endocrinologist or maybe an Ob-Gyn of some sort.

If someone wanted to know about the safety of various drugs and treatment strategies there are sites such as the Mayo Clinic that have detailed descriptions. Even WebMD is better than your information gleaned from blogs and other biased sites.

Pubertal blockers for transgender and gender diverse youth - Mayo Clinic

 

[Good4Nothin]

Don't use the incorrect terminology if you seek to be corrected.

A therapist is a psychologist or psychiatrist, and while the psychiatrist is an MD they would not be prescribing hormones or blockers. The blockers and hormones would be prescribed by an endocrinologist or maybe an Ob-Gyn of some sort.

If someone wanted to know about the safety of various drugs and treatment strategies there are sites such as the Mayo Clinic that have detailed descriptions. Even WebMD is better than your information gleaned from blogs and other biased sites.

Pubertal blockers for transgender and gender diverse youth - Mayo Clinic

Oh thank you thank you for explaining to me that a therapist could be a psychologist or a psychiatrist! They didn't tell me that while I was getting a PhD and 2 masters degrees in psychology!

Oh, and thank you thank you for telling me about the Mayo Clinic web site! I never heard of it! I don't even know what a website is! Good thing you are here to talk down to everyone!

 

[Lisa]

Oh thank you thank you for explaining to me that a therapist could be a psychologist or a psychiatrist! They didn't tell me that while I was getting a PhD and 2 masters degrees in psychology!

Oh, and thank you thank you for telling me about the Mayo Clinic web site! I never heard of it! I don't even know what a website is! Good thing you are here to talk down to everyone!

If you claim to be a Ph.D then why did you use the wrong terminology? Patients are corrected when they do that.

 

[Good4Nothin]

If you claim to be a Ph.D then why did you use the wrong terminology?

Oh gosh, wrong terminology!! Heavens. I don't even know what terminology you are talking about. And NO ONE with a PhD would EVER use wrong terminology, or make any kind of mistake whatsoever! Because we are super-human and the height of absolute perfection. Not nearly as smart as YOU, of course.

Please continue talking down and not getting sarcasm. It makes you seem so cute.

 

[bomberfox]

Homosexuals very often act like the opposite sex. Two gay men, for example, may have opposite gender roles. So how can a therapist differentiate between an effeminate gay man and a transgender?

A therapist would know more about it than you. Its not simply a matter of gender roles. An effeminate man can still want to be a male, i know plenty. Its the consistent need to be a gender they were not born as.

 

[bomberfox]

Oh gosh, wrong terminology!! Heavens. I don't even know what terminology you are talking about. And NO ONE with a PhD would EVER use wrong terminology, or make any kind of mistake whatsoever! Because we are super-human and the height of absolute perfection. Not nearly as smart as YOU, of course.

Please continue talking down and not getting sarcasm. It makes you seem so cute.

Which you have done at the very first post by acting like what some people go through is a fad when the kind of suffering they endure kind of tells you that they arent doing this just for kicks.

 

[Good4Nothin]

A therapist would know more about it than you. Its not simply a matter of gender roles. An effeminate man can still want to be a male, i know plenty. Its the consistent need to be a gender they were not born as.

Ah, a therapist. They know everything. I should not dare to question them. Never.

 

[bomberfox]

Ah, a therapist. They know everything. I should not dare to question them. Never.

They just know more than you apparently.

 

[Lisa]

A therapist would know more about it than you. Its not simply a matter of gender roles. An effeminate man can still want to be a male, i know plenty. Its the consistent need to be a gender they were not born as.

Exactly. G4N doesn't seem to understand the difference between psychological gender identity (the innate sense of a gendered self) and sexual orientation (who you want or don't want to be intimate with). This is a very basic concept.

A Ph.D. would also be citing research papers and not internet blogs as proof.

 

[Good4Nothin]

Exactly. G4N doesn't seem to understand the difference between psychological gender identity (the innate sense of a gendered self) and sexual orientation (who you want or don't want to be intimate with). This is a very basic concept.

A Ph.D. would also be citing research papers and not internet blogs as proof.

I never showed any sign of not knowing the difference between gender identity and sexual orientation. The problem is with you -- you seem unable to read and process information accurately.

 

[Lisa]

I never showed any sign of not knowing the difference between gender identity and sexual orientation. The problem is with you -- you seem unable to read and process information accurately.

You said that a transgendered person could be just as happy being gay or cross dressing because you don't agree with the protocol of blockers and hormones that change their bodies. That statement is proof that you don't know the difference between gender identity and sexual orientation. Sexual orientation and gender identity are completely separate. The fact that many trans people are also not hetero or even celibate also seems to be a problem for you to understand.

 

[Good4Nothin]

You said that a transgendered person could be just as happy being gay or cross dressing because you don't agree with the protocol of blockers and hormones that change their bodies. That statement is proof that you don't know the difference between gender identity and sexual orientation. Sexual orientation and gender identity are completely separate. The fact that many trans people are also not hetero or even celibate also seems to be a problem for you to understand.

I SAID that a young child who has gender dysphoria MIGHT turn out to be gay. I know that is what happened with my brother. He wanted to be a girl when he was very young, but he grew up into a strong handsome homosexual man. Thank goodness there were no puberty blockers then!

 

[Lisa]

I SAID that a young child who has gender dysphoria MIGHT turn out to be gay. I know that is what happened with my brother. He wanted to be a girl when he was very young, but he grew up into a strong handsome homosexual man. Thank goodness there were no puberty blockers then!

The fact that your brother was gender dysphoria has nothing to do with him being gay because a person's gender identity is completely separate from his sexual orientation. CIS gays and bisexuals have no more possibility of being transgender that other non-transgendered (CIS)heterosexuals. Crossdressers or transvestites tend to be male heterosexuals with no interest in hormones or transitioning. Transgendered people can he hetero gay or bisexual in their identified gender role.

 

[Good4Nothin]

The fact that your brother was gender dysphoria has nothing to do with him being gay because a person's gender identity is completely separate from his sexual orientation. CIS gays and bisexuals have no more possibility of being transgender that other non-transgendered (CIS)heterosexuals. Crossdressers or transvestites tend to be male heterosexuals with no interest in hormones or transitioning. Transgendered people can he hetero gay or bisexual in their identified gender role.

Oh just stop. My brother had gender dysphoria when very young. It went away. It OFTEN goes away. You don't get it, you can't get it.

 

[Lisa]

Oh just stop. My brother had gender dysphoria when very young. It went away. It OFTEN goes away. You don't get it, you can't get it.

If your brother had gender dysphoria then it didn't go away. He was misdiagnosed because gender dysphoria doesn't go away by itself.

Gay people occasionally seek gender therapy because some of them used to belive that it would be easier to be a woman than to be a gay man. That situation is screened for because they arent transgendered. It doesn't happen as often now because being gay is not the social stigma that it used to be.

 

[AProudLefty]

Oh just stop. My brother had gender dysphoria when very young. It went away. It OFTEN goes away. You don't get it, you can't get it.

Still no citation.

 

[Good4Nothin]

If your brother had gender dysphoria then it didn't go away. He was misdiagnosed because gender dysphoria doesn't go away by itself.

Gay people occasionally seek gender therapy because some of them used to belive that it would be easier to be a woman than to be a gay man. That situation is screened for because they arent transgendered. It doesn't happen as often now because being gay is not the social stigma that it used to be.

You are WRONG. Gender dysphoria often goes away. Look it up. No one has figured out exactly how often it goes away. But the EXPERTS AGREE that it often goes away. You are WRONG WRONG WRONG.