The real Che Guevara

[Sandokan]

“Shooting people yes, we have shoot people and will continuo to do so until it will be required.” [1]

Video link: YouTube - che guevara"Che Guevara: Anatomía de un mito"

In April 1967, speaking from experience, he summed up his homicidal idea of justice in his “Message to the Tricontinental”: “hatred is an element of struggle; relentless hatred of the enemy that impels us over and beyond the natural limitations of man and transforms us into effective, violent, selective, and cold killing machines. Our soldiers must be thus; a people without hatred cannot vanquish a brutal enemy.” This use of hatred to encourage the dehumanization of ones enemy is but another manifestation of the doctrine found throughout the centuries to justify mass murder and torture.

Che shout to his captors in Bolivia, “Don't shoot – I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!”. Then why didn't he save his last bullet for himself? He could only beg for his life. The murderous, cowardly and epically stupid little weasel named Che Guevara in Bolivia, got a major dose of his own medicine. Justice has never been better served. [7]

[7] Humberto Fontova, “The Real Che Guevara”, NewsMax.com, June 25, 2002

Che only was able to beg for his life, he didn’t know to die like a man, like the 14 years old boy he killed at La Cabaña that said to him: “If you're going to kill me you're going to have to do it the way you kill a man, standing, not like a coward, kneeling.”

 

[Sandokan]

Che shout to his captors in Bolivia, [B]“Don't shoot – I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!”.[/B] Then why didn't he save his last bullet for himself? He could only beg for his life. The murderous, cowardly and epically stupid little weasel named Che Guevara in Bolivia, got a major dose of his own medicine. Justice has never been better served. - Humberto Fontova, “The Real Che Guevara”, NewsMax.com, June 25, 2002.

Che only was able to beg for his life, he didn’t know to die like a man, like the 14 years old boy he killed at La Cabaña that said to him: “If you're going to kill me you're going to have to do it the way you kill a man, standing, not like a coward, kneeling.”

 

[Sandokan]

Che shout to his captors in Bolivia, “Don't shoot – I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!”. Then why didn't he save his last bullet for himself? He could only beg for his life. The murderous, cowardly and epically stupid little weasel named Che Guevara in Bolivia, got a major dose of his own medicine. Justice has never been better served. - Humberto Fontova, “The Real Che Guevara”, NewsMax.com, June 25, 2002.

Che only was able to beg for his life, he didn’t know to die like a man, like the 14 years old boy he killed at La Cabaña that said to him: “If you're going to kill me you're going to have to do it the way you kill a man, standing, not like a coward, kneeling.”

 

[Sandokan]

Che Guevara, who did so much to destroy capitalism, is now a quintessential capitalist brand. His likeness adorns mugs, lighters, key chains, wallets, baseball caps, toques, bandannas, tank tops, club shirts, couture bags, denim jeans, herbal tea, and of course those omnipresent T-shirts with the photograph, taken by Alberto Korda. His contemporary followers delude themselves by clinging to a myth, except the young Argentines who have come up with an expression: “I have a Che T-shirt and I don't know why.”

Thanks to Che's own testimonials, his thoughts and his deeds, we now know exactly how deluded so many of our contemporaries are about him.- The Killing Machine: Che Guevara, from Communist Firebrand to Capitalist Brand, July 11, 2005, Alvaro Vargas Llosa, The New Republic.

The worshipers of Che aren’t rebels or peace activists. They are tools promoting the harmful legacy of collectivism and the havoc it has brought all over the world.

Che's legacy in Cuba is one neighbor spying on another, high suicide rates, and a generation of young Cubans risking their lives on rafts in the Florida Straits rather than continue to live under a despotic government. Che's true legacy is simply one of terror and murder.

 

[ecofarm]

After the 2004 election, I bought this t-shirt. I was not a big Bush-supporter, explicitly, but with all the raving (and grievously disappointed) libs on campus... this shirt got alot of great miles.

One of my professors actually said "how could you put that ugly face onto CHE!?" She nearly wept.

 

[Sandokan]

The racism of Che Guevara

This is the true impact that the regime Che co-founded had on race relations, which made him "a living, breathing instrument" of racism.

Quotes from the book “The Motorcycle Diaries: Notes on a Latin America Journey”

“The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese."

"The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations.” That's Che himself delighted in belittling blacks in his celebrated Motorcycle Diaries. Can't imagine how Robert Redford left that out of his charming movie.

In reference to the Bolivian peasants, Che wrote in his Diary in Bolivia on June 19, 1967 “the inhabitants one must hunt them to be able to speak with them because they are like little animals.” Wonder if Evo Morales has read them? He's too busy ribbon-cutting Che monuments in Bolivian villages.

Che didn't think much of Mexicans. In 1956 while residing in Mexico, Che refer to the Mexican as: "a band of illiterate Indians." Miguel Sánchez, “el coreano”, Che’s comrade in Mexico responsible of the military instruction of Castro’s Granma expeditionary force.

During a 1959 press conference Luis Pons, a prominent Cuban black, asked Che Guevara, what the revolution planed on doing to help blacks. Che answered: “We’re going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing.”- Humberto Fontova, Exposing the real Che Guevara, April 2007.

 

[Sandokan]

Guevara’s elevation as symbol of goodness, due to the self-indulgence and frivolity of pampered Western pseudo revolutionaries, speaks clearly of their lack of critical objective analysis, forgetting that, as Anthony Daniels states, "The difference between ‘Che’ Guevara and Pol Pot was that Guevara never studied in Paris."

 

[German guy]

At any rate, it's pretty misguided to use Che as an inspiring symbol or object of admiration. I mean ok, when you are left-leaning, fine, but you don't do your cause a favor when you wear a Che T-shirt. The reasons have been mentioned already: First, it's a shot into your own foot, because Che's image has become more a symbol of capitalist marketing rather than revolutionary fervor. Thus, it's a perfect symbol for the embarressing paradox of pampered children of capitalism living a capitalist life naively trying to play revolutionary.

And second, Che was a reckless murderer who stood against many things modern leftists in the West often hold dear. Individualism wasn't Che's cup of tea, neither were rights for homosexuals (IIRC, he and especially his buddy Fidel had thousands of homosexuals imprisoned and murdered for their sexual orientation). You could say the systematic violence exerted by Che's enemies, like the US, was worse and more murderous, and maybe you could make a good case in favor of that claim. But two wrongs don't make a right, and embracing Che would be embracing the replacement of one kind of cruel tyranny by another. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" has brought a lot of suffering over this planet already, idealistic leftists should be above that kind of logic if they truly want to make a difference.

Just my two cents.

 

[Sandokan]

In 1956, when Che linked up with Fidel, Raul and their Cuban freinds in Mexico city, one of them recalls Che railing against the Hungarian freedom-fighters as "Fascists!" and cheering their annihilation by Soviet tanks.

In 1962 Che got a chance to do more than cheer from the sidelines. He had a hand in the following: "Cuban militia units commanded by Russian officers employed flame-throwers to burn the palm-thatched cottages in the Escambray countryside. The peasant occupants were accused of feeding the counterrevolutionaries and bandits."

At one point in 1962, one of every 19 Cubans was a political prisoner. Fidel himself admits that they faced 179 bands of "counter-revolutionaries" and "bandits."

 

[Sandokan]

Che Guevara was monumentally vain and epically stupid. He was shallow, boorish, cruel, and cowardly. He was full of himself, a consummate fraud and an intellectual vacuum. He was intoxicated with a few vapid slogans, spoke in cliches and was a glutton for publicity. But ah! he did come out nice in a couple of publicity photos, high cheekbones and all! And we wonder why he's a hit in Hollywood? - Humberto Fontova, Che Guevara: Assasin and Bumbler, The Cuban American National Foundation, Feb. 23, 2004

Fontova is right, Che was all of that and more.

 

[Sandokan]

One thing is certain: Guevara’s desire for the development of the New Man did not emerge from his empirical experience of actual men. In the Motorcycle Diaries, he meets many excellent and indeed magnificent men, rich and poor alike. Guevara’s desire for the development of the New Man, I believe, comes from his need to control the lives of others, his urge to power. With unique lack of self-knowledge, with an absolute absence of irony, he describes the character of Valdivia, the conquistador of Chile:

Valdivia’s actions symbolize man’s indefatigable thirst to take control of a place where he can exercise total control… . He belonged to that special class of men the species produces every so often, in whom a craving for limitless power is so extreme that any suffering to achieve it seems natural.

Could there be a better description of Guevara’s career itself?

In presenting Guevara as a romantic figure, generous and compassionate rather than ruthlessly priggish and self-centered, and by suggesting that he has anything to teach us other than negatively, the director is guilty of mendacity of a very high order. The film is an exercise in moral frivolity and exhibitionism, self-congratulation, of course, opportunism. It should sell as well as Guevara T-shirts. - Anthony Daniels, New Criterion, October, 2004.

Which New Man; fanatics, liars, assassins and failed men, reaching the total realization of being like Che?

 

[Hoplite]

Do you, like, have a day job or is this pretty much your hobby?

 

[Resist the gov.]

Che only was able to beg for his life, he didn’t know to die like a man, like the 14 years old boy he killed at La Cabaña that said to him: “If you're going to kill me you're going to have to do it the way you kill a man, standing, not like a coward, kneeling.”

You fail to mention that before he was shot by his executioner that he said," I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward you are only going to kill a man."

 

[Resist the gov.]

In 1956, when Che linked up with Fidel, Raul and their Cuban freinds in Mexico city, one of them recalls Che railing against the Hungarian freedom-fighters as "Fascists!" and cheering their annihilation by Soviet tanks.

In 1962 Che got a chance to do more than cheer from the sidelines. He had a hand in the following: "Cuban militia units commanded by Russian officers employed flame-throwers to burn the palm-thatched cottages in the Escambray countryside. The peasant occupants were accused of feeding the counterrevolutionaries and bandits."

At one point in 1962, one of every 19 Cubans was a political prisoner. Fidel himself admits that they faced 179 bands of "counter-revolutionaries" and "bandits."

Do you have links to prove this acusation ?

 

[Sandokan]

You fail to mention that before he was shot by his executioner that he said," I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward you are only going to kill a man."

Can you provide the source or link of his statement?

Do you have links to prove this acusation ?

Yes here is the link: Che the ‘Guerrilla Fighter’ – Literally! by Humberto Fontova

 

[German guy]

As much as I dislike Che and the cult around him, there is one thing worth noting nevertheless: Apparently, the situation in Cuba prior to his revolution was not satisfying for many people. There was apparently a huge injustice going on, oppressive structures of exploitation and probably racism too. If that hadn't been the case, Che and Fidel would hardly have found enough supporters.

 

[Resist the gov.]

yes here Che Guevara Quotes

 

[Sandokan]

Thirty nine years ago Ernesto "Che" Guevara got a major dose of his own medicine. Without trial he was declared a murderer, stood against a wall and shot. Historically speaking, justice has rarely been better served. If the saying, "what goes around comes around" ever fit, it's here. The number of men Che's "revolutionary tribunals" condemned to death in the identical manner range from 400 to 1892. The number of defenseless men (and boys) Che personally murdered with his own pistol runs to the dozens.

"Executions?" Che Guevara exclaimed while addressing the hallowed halls of the UN General Assembly December 9, 1964. "Certainly, we execute! " he declared to the claps and cheers of that August body. "And we will continue executing (emphasis HIS) as long as it is necessary! This is a war to the DEATH against the Revolution's enemies!" -
Humberto Fontova, “Che Guevara 39 Years of Hype”, Guacarabuya, October 2006

The butcher of la Cabaña; he lives by the sword, he die by the sword.

 

[Groucho]

 

[Awesome!]

Re: The Word (Jesus) became flesh and made his dwelling among us

The real Che Guevara: . . . thank you for this information .. I hope to learn more about Che Guevara and his Communistic / Socialistic murderous agenda . . . God help our youth .. so many brainwashed by the leftwing-media and government schools . . . turning him into an icconic hero ( a symbol of revolution ) I'm sure it won't be long .. they'll be follwing in his footsteps

If they want to follow this loser then sobeit, I don't think they will do that much damage, but if they started to put Ho Chi Minh portraits on their cars, dorm room walls or skin then I might be concerned.

 

[Groucho]

Re: The Word (Jesus) became flesh and made his dwelling among us

If they want to follow this loser then sobeit, I don't think they will do that much damage, but if they started to put Ho Chi Minh portraits on their cars, dorm room walls or skin then I might be concerned.

If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.

There's always been a cult of rebellion without a cause out there.

 

[Awesome!]

You fail to mention that before he was shot by his executioner that he said," I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward you are only going to kill a man."

There is another account that Che overpowered the Bolivian guards killing three of them with his bare hands and while he was shot 9 times bleeding to death grappling with his captors continued to cry out: Viva the revolution, die imperialists!

I soil myself everytime I hear that account!

 

[Awesome!]

Re: The Word (Jesus) became flesh and made his dwelling among us

If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.

There's always been a cult of rebellion without a cause out there.

Well hopefully so it's a rebellion without a cause, but when you have people in government praising these idiots, it makes you wonder. Just like everyone thought Hitler was a clown in the late 20's and 30's.

 

[Sandokan]

Re: The Word (Jesus) became flesh and made his dwelling among us

Well hopefully so it's a rebellion without a cause, but when you have people in government praising these idiots, it makes you wonder. Just like everyone thought Hitler was a clown in the late 20's and 30's.

"I don't need proof to execute a man" snapped Che to a judicial underling in 1959. "I only need proof that it's necessary to execute him!"

Not that you'd surmise any of the above from the mainstream media or academia-- much less Hollywood. From the high priests of the Fourth Estate Che Guevara gets only accolades. Time magazine, for instance, honors Che Guevara among "The 100 Most Important People of the Century."

The man who declared, "a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate," (and set a spirited example,) who boasted that he executed from "revolutionary conviction" rather than from any "archaic bourgeois details" like judicial evidence, and who urged "atomic extermination" as the final solution for those American "hyenas," (and came hearth-thumpingly close with Nuclear missiles in October 1962) is hailed by Time--not just among the "most important" people of the Century--but in the "Heroes and Icons" section, alongside Anne Frank, Andrei Sakharov and Rosa Parks.

"If the Nuclear missiles had remained we would have used them against the very heart of America, including New York City," Che Guevara confided to the London Daily Worker in November of 1962. "We will march the path of victory even if it costs millions of atomic victims...We must keep our hatred alive and fan it to paroxysm." This was Che's prescription for America almost half a century before Osama Bin Laden, Mullah Omar and Al-Zarqawi appeared on our radar screens.

But for the prudence of Nikita Khrushchev, Che Guevara's fondest wish would have made New York's 9-11 explosions appear like an errant cherry bomb. Yet listed alongside Che Guevara in Time's "Heroes and Icons of the Century," is Mother Theresa. From here the ironies only get richer. - Humberto Fontova, “Che Guevara 39 Years of Hype”, Guacarabuya, October 2006

Che had a deep hatred against the United States. From his statements we can infer he was a cold blooded killing machine.

 

[Resist the gov.]

Re: The Word (Jesus) became flesh and made his dwelling among us

Ya he hated the U.S. because were the ones that set up the Batista puppet government and we were the the ones that helped train his soldiers to fight in guerrilla warfare,so he hated us ,much like most of the Middle East hates us for meddling in there affairs