The Horrible Truth about Barack Obama's Presidency

[Mycroft]

We get it. You hate Obama.

Is it hate to point out facts?

 

[Casca XV]

Fake news. Donald Trump is the best President.

You really need to get your (alternative) facts right.

I don't know about the best, but by every objective standard he is better than Obama.

By repealing all Obama executive orders and other actions like rejecting the Paris Climate Accord he has created the best overall economy in 10 years.

Aside from a Few European Leftist pissed he kicked them off the US tax payer Gravy Train we have far better foreign relations than when Obama was Leading from Behind.

 

[katzgar]

Is it hate to point out facts?

since when did you start doing facts?

 

[prometeus]

I think all the Obama statues should be removed...

 

[katzgar]

I don't know about the best, but by every objective standard he is better than Obama.

By repealing all Obama executive orders and other actions like rejecting the Paris Climate Accord he has created the best overall economy in 10 years.

Aside from a Few European Leftist pissed he kicked them off the US tax payer Gravy Train we have far better foreign relations than when Obama was Leading from Behind.

you do a lot of dishonest posts but this post is one of your most dishonest

 

[Casca XV]

There is little doubt that we have suffered under the administrations of two of the worst presidents ever back to back.

50% of the country says so.

Considering past accuracy of polls, I doubt they are saying that about Trump

 

[code1211]

And at this time I see nothing that would make me think it will improve. And Trump ain't the only problem he's just the loudest at the moment. There are way too many of us who don't care about the big picture, can't think long term or won't see past our own biases.

Absolutely true!

As long as all problems are reduced to binary considerations and include an "Us vs. Them" component, we are pretty much screwed.

This is evidenced on this board in almost all considerations.

I detest the constant posing of divisions that should not define issues. A poor man who needs help need not be defined as a person who was deprived by the wealthy.

A black person of limited opportunity need not be defined as a victim of the more privileged.

I am old. I have found that no matter how much another is diminished, I am not enhanced as a result. I am enhanced only by my own enhancement.

By diminishing and dividing, we impoverish our society and thereby ourselves: all of us. Together.

I was hoping throughout the Obama administration that the president would enter the inner cities and exhort the residents there to achieve. To recommend and proclaim the fruits of self help and personal pride absent identity politics. This was his unique opportunity. He squandered it.

I thought it would be nice that he might deliver a message akin to saying, "I made it! Look at me and believe! You can make it, too! The opportunity is there because we all live in the USA. We all rise or fall as a nation. Segmentation is not a good course to embrace and not the road to success. Let us all work together to achieve and proceed. Working together, we cannot be stopped."

Instead, in virtually every address he delivered, he highlighted the differences and posed a conflict based on one group suffering BECAUSE a different group prospered.

Now Trump condemns all violence and hate is branded as a racist. What's wrong with this picture?

 

[Casca XV]

How anyone, during Trump's administration, can call Obama the worst ever is beyond me.
Obama was not a good politician. He could have done better, dealing with the proudly blatant opposition from Congress, and he'll be remembered as bland and ineffective. But the worst? Not even close.
His main problem might have been his inexperience. He was a decent man but maybe unprepared for what he ended up being faced with. Now Trump, well, there's nothing in his background or character that's prepared him for city government politics, never mind POTUS. And it's obvious. I

I guess if you confuse Leftist manufactured hysteria with real life in America you will be surprised an shocked when Trump is reelected.

That Trump was never a Govt Bureaucrat is a plus not a minus.

 

[Redress]

It's a shame that the first US African-American President is also by every objective standard one of the worst.

Stefan Molyneux gives an outstanding video presentation, link below, his source information links are below that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsWzfhvvOgg

On January 20, 2009, President Barack Obama took office on a platform of "hope" and "change" for the United States of America. As Obama has completed his final day as President of the United States, Stefan Molyneux reviews his accomplishments, failures and legacy in the annals of American history.



Sources

https://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/obama-252/

Barack Obama?s Economy: The Ugly Truth | National Review
America hits new record under Obama?s welfare economy: 95 million people NOT in the work force
Record 95,102,000 Americans Not in Labor Force; Number Grew 18% Since Obama Took Office in 2009
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/02/07/black-teen-unemployment-jumps-to-38/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/05/is-the-unemployment-rate-lying-to-you/
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...came-most-fiscally-irresponsible-president-in
http://conservativerevival.com/late...debt-obama-accumulated-during-his-presidency/
http://www.macleans.ca/culture/books/a-veteran-reporter-on-americas-forever-war/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecollins/2015/07/14/the-big-bank-bailout/#6170d6e83723
http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/DavidStockman/obama-jobs-lies-economy/2015/07/03/id/653391/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/07/28/americans-poverty-no-work/2594203/
http://conservativetribune.com/obama-makes-astonishing-race/
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/17/survey-under-obama-race-relations-in-the-us-reach-20-year-low/
https://www.city-journal.org/html/obamas-biggest-failure-14638.html
http://townhall.com/columnists/john...have-gotten-worse-under-barack-obama-n2192725
Record 95,102,000 Americans Not in Labor Force; Number Grew 18% Since Obama Took Office in 2009

Without even digging into the editorials(Hint: those represent opinions, not facts), I can still pick out one that shows just how intellectually dishonest you are being: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/record-95102000-americans-not-labor-force-number-grew-18-obama-took-office. Now let me quote briefly from your source:

The final jobs report of the Obama presidency, released Friday, shows that the number of Americans not in the labor force has increased by 14,573,000 (18.09 percent) since January 2009, when Obama took office, continuing a long-term trend that began well before Obama was sworn in.

And what exactly is a person not in the labor force? To again quote from the source:

People over age 16 who are no longer working or even looking for work, for whatever reason (retirement, school, personal preference, or gave up), are counted as not participating in the labor force.

Dammit, how come Obama did not stop all those baby boomers from retiring?!? In addition, with the dropout rate in school being down, that means fewer people 16 - 18 working. They are going to school. Damn that Obama!!!

 

[katzgar]

Absolutely true!

As long as all problems are reduced to binary considerations and include an "Us vs. Them" component, we are pretty much screwed.

This is evidenced on this board in almost all considerations.

I detest the constant posing of divisions that should not define issues. A poor man who needs help need not be defined as a person who was deprived by the wealthy.

A black person of limited opportunity need not be defined as a victim of the more privileged.

I am old. I have found that no matter how much another is diminished, I am not enhanced as a result. I am enhanced only by my own enhancement.

By diminishing and dividing, we impoverish our society and thereby ourselves: all of us. Together.

I was hoping throughout the Obama administration that the president would enter the inner cities and exhort the residents there to achieve. To recommend and proclaim the fruits of self help and personal pride absent identity politics. This was his unique opportunity. He squandered it.

I thought it would be nice that he might deliver a message akin to saying, "I made it! Look at me and believe! You can make it, too! The opportunity is there because we all live in the USA. We all rise or fall as a nation. Segmentation is not a good course to embrace and not the road to success. Let us all work together to achieve and proceed. Working together, we cannot be stopped."

Instead, in virtually every address he delivered, he highlighted the differences and posed a conflict based on one group suffering BECAUSE a different group prospered.

Now Trump condemns all violence and hate is branded as a racist. What's wrong with this picture?

whats wrong with your picture is that it is a lie

 

[code1211]

obama got health care passed after nixon clinton and eisenhower failed doing it. Bush has had huge success fighting aids in africa and funding prescriptions

Passing healthcare? He passed an insurance scam that increased the costs of healthcare by about a trillion dollars across ten years.

Obamacare was well intentioned, but in its outcomes, another government boondoggle. Premiums up, taxpayer costs up, Insurance Company loses widespread, choice evaporated, and corruption expanded.

Prescriptions subsidized was well intentioned. It would have been better to legalize enhanced competition. Subsidizing the cost of American Drugs to a level twice that of the same drug as sold in Europe smells like corruption to me. I could be wrong.

Fighting aids in Africa is a noble pursuit that might have been reviewed for fiscal responsibility in the face of doubling the the national debt. Might there have been a way to finance this that did not use tax dollars?

 

[Rogue Valley]

It's a shame that the first US African-American President is also by every objective standard one of the worst.

Stefan Molyneux gives an outstanding video presentation, link below, his source information links are below that.

Molyneux, a self-published author, usually speaks on topics including anarcho-capitalism, politics, race and intelligence, multiculturalism, right-libertarianism, anti-feminism,[1] and familial relationships. A supporter of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, he has been described as alt-right by Politico and The Washington Post, and right-wing by CNN.[2][3][4][1][5] The Freedomain Radio internet community which he leads has sometimes been described as a cult.[6][7][8][5]

Wikipedia - Stefan_Molyneux

 

[katzgar]

I guess if you confuse Leftist manufactured hysteria with real life in America you will be surprised an shocked when Trump is reelected.

That Trump was never a Govt Bureaucrat is a plus not a minus.

your explanation of how trump got obamacare repealed....oops never mind.

 

[prometeus]

I don't know about the best, but by every objective standard he is better than Obama.

It is truly amazing how willful ignorance and low information can consistently top the level of stupidity in these posts. List a single standard that objectively supports the idiocy you are spewing.

 

[katzgar]

Passing healthcare? He passed an insurance scam that increased the costs of healthcare by about a trillion dollars across ten years.

Obamacare was well intentioned, but in its outcomes, another government boondoggle. Premiums up, taxpayer costs up, Insurance Company loses widespread, choice evaporated, and corruption expanded.

Prescriptions subsidized was well intentioned. It would have been better to legalize enhanced competition. Subsidizing the cost of American Drugs to a level twice that of the same drug as sold in Europe smells like corruption to me. I could be wrong.

Fighting aids in Africa is a noble pursuit that might have been reviewed for fiscal responsibility in the face of doubling the the national debt. Might there have been a way to finance this that did not use tax dollars?

one day you will accept that a colored man was in the WH.

 

[code1211]

Considering past accuracy of polls, I doubt they are saying that about Trump

Trump's not gone yet.

George W. Bush was characterized and about as popular as a social disease while in office.

Now he has an approval rating of 59%.

It's amazing what being ignored by the media does for a Republican.

I wonder what the ratings for Trump would be if he had never changed his affiliation to Republican from Democrat.

 

[code1211]

one day you will accept that a colored man was in the WH.

When a person sees the whole world through the filter of race, it removes his ability to see any part of the world accurately. This causes suffering.

You suffer needlessly.

Open your eyes.

 

[katzgar]

When a person sees the whole world through the filter of race, it removes his ability to see any part of the world accurately. This causes suffering.

You suffer needlessly.

Open your eyes.

Racism is bad

 

[trblmkr]

Absolutely true!

As long as all problems are reduced to binary considerations and include an "Us vs. Them" component, we are pretty much screwed.

This is evidenced on this board in almost all considerations.

I detest the constant posing of divisions that should not define issues. A poor man who needs help need not be defined as a person who was deprived by the wealthy.

A black person of limited opportunity need not be defined as a victim of the more privileged.

I am old. I have found that no matter how much another is diminished, I am not enhanced as a result. I am enhanced only by my own enhancement.

By diminishing and dividing, we impoverish our society and thereby ourselves: all of us. Together.

I was hoping throughout the Obama administration that the president would enter the inner cities and exhort the residents there to achieve. To recommend and proclaim the fruits of self help and personal pride absent identity politics. This was his unique opportunity. He squandered it.

I thought it would be nice that he might deliver a message akin to saying, "I made it! Look at me and believe! You can make it, too! The opportunity is there because we all live in the USA. We all rise or fall as a nation. Segmentation is not a good course to embrace and not the road to success. Let us all work together to achieve and proceed. Working together, we cannot be stopped."

Instead, in virtually every address he delivered, he highlighted the differences and posed a conflict based on one group suffering BECAUSE a different group prospered."

Now Trump condemns all violence and hate is branded as a racist. What's wrong with this picture?

In all fairness, is not one rallying cry of Trump and his supporters that immigrants, minorities, off-shore manufacturing and globalism in general the cause of all their problems? Is there really much difference? Who did this to us has always been the drum beat by those who need someone to blame, making them different, (better).

 

[Redress]

Is it hate to point out facts?

Editorials are not facts.

 

[Mycroft]

since when did you start doing facts?

Well, you wouldn't know because facts don't interest you.

Anyway, since you jumped in with nothing of substance, you are dismissed.

 

[Mycroft]

Editorials are not facts.

Editorials can state facts.

 

[Mycroft]

Trump's not gone yet.

George W. Bush was characterized and about as popular as a social disease while in office.

Now he has an approval rating of 59%.

It's amazing what being ignored by the media does for a Republican.

I wonder what the ratings for Trump would be if he had never changed his affiliation to Republican from Democrat.

I'm certain his ratings would be much higher if the media had treated Trump the same as they treated Obama...or, even, Bush.

 

[katzgar]

Well, you wouldn't know because facts don't interest you.

Anyway, since you jumped in with nothing of substance, you are dismissed.

You make my point for me

 

[code1211]

In all fairness, is not one rallying cry of Trump and his supporters that immigrants, minorities, off-shore manufacturing and globalism in general the cause of all their problems? Is there really much difference? Who did this to us has always been the drum beat by those who need someone to blame, making them different, (better).

The difference is that the "Them" in the Trump rhetoric are non-citizens of the USA.

The "Us" in the Trump rhetoric are citizens of the USA. ALL citizens of the USA.

Trump is the President of the USA. The rest of the world is not his problem except as it impacts the people of the USA.

Obama seemed more interested in being president of the world.

Under Obama, the only clearly defined enemy consistently identified as condemnable in his rhetoric was the Republican Party. It seemed very often that as long as the consideration included interests not in line with the advancement of the interests of the USA, he was for it.

Russians, Iranians, Islamic terrorists, rioters, Chinese industrialists, illegal immigrants, marauding gangs of inner city thugs, drug dealers, MS 13 and about any miscreant you care to cite- All enjoyed his understanding and at least partial support.

Trump has made it pretty clear that he supports the citizens of the USA and is trying to work to enhance their prospects, provide enforcement of laws and support law enforcement authorities.

He is opposed by the media in ever increasing volume and shrieking opposition.