The Farce of Religious Freedom

[Lethargic Aptitude]

How about the farce of secular humanists trying to dictate their jack-legged desires to push Christianity into the closet while pushing carnal hedonism on the streets? You want another Sodom and Gomorrah butt kicking from God?

Sure we'll wait for your mythical god to do something. But we both know that it wont be a god but just believers in said god killing and raping those they hate.

 

[Logicman]

Sure we'll wait for your mythical god to do something. But we both know that it wont be a god but just believers in said god killing and raping those they hate.

You have some really bizarre opinions.

 

[Lursa]

No it doesn't. The Bill of Rights only protects the people against tyranny by the Government. It doesn't protect us from one another. You can believe homosexual behavior is a noble lifestyle. I can believe homosexual behavior is not a noble lifestyle and against God's Word in the Bible. There are laws that prevent one from physically threatening the other. That's understandable. But, our words are protected when we debate the subject of homosexual behavior and the side issues with perversion of our God given sexuality.

So...the govt does protect us all. Please come better prepared to discussion.

And states cannot make laws that undermine those Constitutional protections.

What do you think making abortion illegal means? If you make a law(s), dont you have to enforce them? In a manner that is Constitutional? How do they overcome a woman's right to security of the person (bodily sovereignty). 4th Amendment. Or Due process? Or all the privacy protections for family, marriage, & reproduction in the 14th Amendment?

Please explain.

 

[Cougarbear]

So...the govt does protect us all. Please come better prepared to discussion.
And states cannot make laws that undermine those Constitutional protections.

Cougarbear: No, the government does not protect us the same. The 1st Amendment only protects Religious persons and Churches against the government trying to limit our rights to express our religion. Come better prepared with your understanding of why that Amendment was put into the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

What do you think making abortion illegal means? If you make a law(s), dont you have to enforce them? In a manner that is Constitutional? How do they overcome a woman's right to security of the person (bodily sovereignty). 4th Amendment. Or Due process? Or all the privacy protections for family, marriage, & reproduction in the 14th Amendment?

Please explain.

Cougarbear: Before Roe v Wade, abortion was illegal. Making abortion illegal again isn't something new. So, the 4th amendment question isn't really a question. If abortion is illegal then it means the life of the child is more important than the convenience of the mother. The mother can deliver and then adopt the baby to someone with love in their heart. The fact is that the mother hands over the due process rights to the child when she becomes pregnant. Most women are born with that innate love for their child to understand this. And your 14th Amendment is a farce unworthy of comment when talking about family. Abortionists have no clue of the sanctity of the family. It's amazing how people try to justify killing.

 

[Lursa]

Cougarbear: Before Roe v Wade, abortion was illegal. Making abortion illegal again isn't something new. So, the 4th amendment question isn't really a question. If abortion is illegal then it means the life of the child is more important than the convenience of the mother. The mother can deliver and then adopt the baby to someone with love in their heart. The fact is that the mother hands over the due process rights to the child when she becomes pregnant. Most women are born with that innate love for their child to understand this. And your 14th Amendment is a farce unworthy of comment when talking about family. Abortionists have no clue of the sanctity of the family. It's amazing how people try to justify killing.

No, abortion was not illegal then.

And there are many laws that are on the books that are unConstitutional...why do you think these states are passing these laws? They admit they are unConstitutional and are pushing for change. :roll:

The bold is complete legal nonsense altho I'd love to see you source it.

Please come to the discussions better prepared.

 

[Cougarbear]

No, abortion was not illegal then.

And there are many laws that are on the books that are unConstitutional...why do you think these states are passing these laws? They admit they are unConstitutional and are pushing for change. :roll:

The bold is complete legal nonsense altho I'd love to see you source it.

Please come to the discussions better prepared.

Yes it was! Why do you think Roe v Wade has been such a controversial issue. It most certainly was illegal to have an abortion before 1968.
The House passed a bill Friday, 236-173, extending federal anti-discrimination protections to LGBTQ Americans. The Equality Act, sponsored by Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.), would prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in housing, employment, credit, and federally funded programs, among other areas. Every single House Democrat present voted for the bill, withstanding GOP efforts to put caucus moderates on the record to prohibit LGBTQ discrimination in federally funded education programs, which, some GOP members argued, might affect sports programs. - LGBTQ anti-discrimination bill passes House - POLITICO

Let's see, if a public school receives money from the Federal Government, transgendered males can compete in sports against females. That's unfair. If a Private school of university owned by a Church doesn't allow homosexual behavior, but receives grants or loans for students from the Federal Government, those schools and church be legally charged with crimes. If a Church has IRS exemptions, they also could then be legally charged with crimes if they don't fully include LGBTs in everything. Including giving Temple Recommends by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints into their most sacred buildings. This is an attack on the 1st Amendment.

 

[Lursa]

Yes it was! Why do you think Roe v Wade has been such a controversial issue. It most certainly was illegal to have an abortion before 1968.

OK, it was only illegal in some states, not all.

Before the*U.S. Supreme Court*decision*Roe v. Wade*decriminalized abortion nationwide in 1973, abortion was already legal in several states, but the decision imposed a uniform framework for state legislation on the subject

Abortion in the United States - Wikipedia

And please articulate the point you are making with the rest as it regards abortion. I dont see it.