The documented failure of the official narrative in Boston Bombing

[mike2810]

If you are not curious enough to do your own research, I'm not interested in doing it for you. If I did that, likely you would simply reject it for some reason.

It's years old. The article I linked to is recent information, recent developments.

Years ago when I was informing myself on the subject, I did see the Craft International men and their backpacks. To me the histrionics of several players appeared staged to me. That an ER doctor would go on the record confirms my suspicions regarding play actors. Like Dr. Lorraine Day, I've seen splattered human blood too. I've seen people bleeding out, so her comments make sense to me.

Many articles have been written about the malfeasance done by crooked prosecutors over many years, so I'm not surprised that another Kangaroo Court was staged. I'm more cynical than you.

If you're sincere in wanting to examine the evidence, do it on your own time. The contradicting photographic evidence may have been taken down in the meantime. Good luck.

Many have done their own research. The findings is that you are wrong regarding the Boston bombing.

You have shown to reject anything posted that contradicts your views, so I won't waste my time to provide any. One could say that cognitive dissonance is evident in your post and the sources you do provide.

Some information on the internet is removed. It does not mean that the government had it removed. Even sites like Veterans Today eventually remove information from the servers.

 

[Maccabee]

If you are not curious enough to do your own research, I'm not interested in doing it for you. If I did that, likely you would simply reject it for some reason.

It's years old. The article I linked to is recent information, recent developments.

Years ago when I was informing myself on the subject, I did see the Craft International men and their backpacks. To me the histrionics of several players appeared staged to me. That an ER doctor would go on the record confirms my suspicions regarding play actors. Like Dr. Lorraine Day, I've seen splattered human blood too. I've seen people bleeding out, so her comments make sense to me.

Many articles have been written about the malfeasance done by crooked prosecutors over many years, so I'm not surprised that another Kangaroo Court was staged. I'm more cynical than you.

If you're sincere in wanting to examine the evidence, do it on your own time. The contradicting photographic evidence may have been taken down in the meantime. Good luck.

For the record, I used to believe there was a conspiracy with the Boston Bombing. That is until went to the police academy and realized that cops won't pull off something like this without someone from the inside leaking it out.

 

[Thoreau72]

For the record, I used to believe there was a conspiracy with the Boston Bombing. That is until went to the police academy and realized that cops won't pull off something like this without someone from the inside leaking it out.

I understand your point. The rank & file law enforcement community did not plan or execute the events of the day.

Those events were planned and executed by men very high in government. Not necessarily elected individuals, but men with clearances working on the inside.

The rank & file individuals were nothing but pawns on a giant chessboard. Boston, 911, San Bernardino and so many others were accomplished under cover of training exercises.

Study up on what Stanley Milgram learned in his experiments about human behavior, and you will understand why he titled the book "Obedience to Authority". Most humans will obey authority, even if they know the act itself is wrong.

 

[Belieth]

Most humans will obey authority, even if they know the act itself is wrong.

And they have to feed their families!

 

[Tigerace117]

I understand your point. The rank & file law enforcement community did not plan or execute the events of the day.

Those events were planned and executed by men very high in government. Not necessarily elected individuals, but men with clearances working on the inside.

The rank & file individuals were nothing but pawns on a giant chessboard. Boston, 911, San Bernardino and so many others were accomplished under cover of training exercises.

Study up on what Stanley Milgram learned in his experiments about human behavior, and you will understand why he titled the book "Obedience to Authority". Most humans will obey authority, even if they know the act itself is wrong.

Yet another example of the sheer stupidity that conspiracy theorists routinely indulge in. You have no evidence that your claims are true; just fevered fantasies invented by lunatics and sociopaths to make themselves feel special.

As usual, there is no evidence that any of what you claim is true.

 

[Maccabee]

I understand your point. The rank & file law enforcement community did not plan or execute the events of the day.

Those events were planned and executed by men very high in government. Not necessarily elected individuals, but men with clearances working on the inside.

The rank & file individuals were nothing but pawns on a giant chessboard. Boston, 911, San Bernardino and so many others were accomplished under cover of training exercises.

Study up on what Stanley Milgram learned in his experiments about human behavior, and you will understand why he titled the book "Obedience to Authority". Most humans will obey authority, even if they know the act itself is wrong.

Ok, and what is your evidence that is was higher government officials?

 

[zyzygy]

Ok, and what is your evidence that is was higher government officials?

He doesn't have a lot of evidence. None at all.

 

[Thoreau72]

Ok, and what is your evidence that is was higher government officials?

The preponderance of the evidence contradicts the official story. Wrong airplanes at WTC, no airliners at Pentagon or Shanksville. An impossible story from NIST regarding how the towers came down. Photos and other video records suppressed, using the case of FEMA photographer Kurt Sonnenfeld as an example.

The heads of the government's own commission noting they had been set up to fail. Comments from others like Max Cleland showing how the commission was a farce. The commission final report noting 60 times "we found no evidence to support" various other elements of the official story.

The strange fact that Vigilant Guardian, Tripod and other federal exercises facilitated the events of the day. As the NORAD controller said to the FAA controller that morning, "is this real life or exercise?"

Many good books about the failures of the official story have been written, not least of which is Michael Ruppert's "Crossing the Rubicon", and Christopher Bollyn's many articles would be places to start for the curious skeptic to begin.

 

[mike2810]

The preponderance of the evidence contradicts the official story. Wrong airplanes at WTC, no airliners at Pentagon or Shanksville. An impossible story from NIST regarding how the towers came down. Photos and other video records suppressed, using the case of FEMA photographer Kurt Sonnenfeld as an example.

The heads of the government's own commission noting they had been set up to fail. Comments from others like Max Cleland showing how the commission was a farce. The commission final report noting 60 times "we found no evidence to support" various other elements of the official story.

The strange fact that Vigilant Guardian, Tripod and other federal exercises facilitated the events of the day. As the NORAD controller said to the FAA controller that morning, "is this real life or exercise?"

Many good books about the failures of the official story have been written, not least of which is Michael Ruppert's "Crossing the Rubicon", and Christopher Bollyn's many articles would be places to start for the curious skeptic to begin.

What does your response have to do with the Boston Bombing? You provided nothing to show " that is was higher government officials" regarding Boston.

 

[zyzygy]

What does your response have to do with the Boston Bombing? You provided nothing to show "e that is was higher government officials" regarding Boston.

He has never been know to give a straight answer to a straight question.

 

[Thoreau72]

What does your response have to do with the Boston Bombing? You provided nothing to show " that is was higher government officials" regarding Boston.

You're right about that Mike. I digressed from one false flag operation to another, so sorry.

In Boston do you suppose the boys from Craft International were just working on their own? Or that a local group of cops hired them?

Oh wait, likely you didn't see in your mind's eye the boys from Craft. Right, you likely deny they were even there.

Like London and other false flag operations, they were organized by people in a position to do so. The entire city of Boston was locked down by people in the command structure, NOT by rank and file police officers.

Most of these false flag operations have similar characteristics, such as training exercises. Much can be accomplished under the cover of such an exercise. Sandy Hook showed that too.

 

[mike2810]

You're right about that Mike. I digressed from one false flag operation to another, so sorry.

In Boston do you suppose the boys from Craft International were just working on their own? Or that a local group of cops hired them?

Oh wait, likely you didn't see in your mind's eye the boys from Craft. Right, you likely deny they were even there.

Like London and other false flag operations, they were organized by people in a position to do so. The entire city of Boston was locked down by people in the command structure, NOT by rank and file police officers.

Most of these false flag operations have similar characteristics, such as training exercises. Much can be accomplished under the cover of such an exercise. Sandy Hook showed that too.

- If Craft International employees conducted the "false flag" , why be so noticeable by wearing identifiable cloths.?
- Is it not possible the group of people so noticeable in so many photos were actually members of a civil support team (National Guard).

Hardly a false flag when the "perps" are so visible and caught so many times on camera and the presence of the alleged perps can easily be explained.

Yes, we know that you see most tragic events as some false flag carried out by the evil government or maybe the 1 percenters are involved.:mrgreen:

 

[Maccabee]

The preponderance of the evidence contradicts the official story. Wrong airplanes at WTC, no airliners at Pentagon or Shanksville. An impossible story from NIST regarding how the towers came down. Photos and other video records suppressed, using the case of FEMA photographer Kurt Sonnenfeld as an example.

The heads of the government's own commission noting they had been set up to fail. Comments from others like Max Cleland showing how the commission was a farce. The commission final report noting 60 times "we found no evidence to support" various other elements of the official story.

The strange fact that Vigilant Guardian, Tripod and other federal exercises facilitated the events of the day. As the NORAD controller said to the FAA controller that morning, "is this real life or exercise?"

Many good books about the failures of the official story have been written, not least of which is Michael Ruppert's "Crossing the Rubicon", and Christopher Bollyn's many articles would be places to start for the curious skeptic to begin.

And this have to do with the Boston Bombing how?

 

[gamolon]

An interesting turn of events regarding the Boston Bombing. It appears the court may be seeking the truth.

Paul Craig Roberts and John Graham at their best.

Boston Marathon Bombing -* The False Prosecution of Dzhokhkar Tsarnaev

Any thoughts, conspiratorial or otherwise? Yes Virginia, there are a few good lawyers.

First sentence of the linked page:

As I reported at the time, and as all evidence indicates, the alleged Boston Marathon Bombing was a publicly announced drill in which crisis actors were used.

So you agree it was a "drill" with "crisis actors"? I have a few question for you. Watch the first 8 seconds of the video in the link below showing the explosion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...as-like/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bb498810b34c

Notice the reaction of the flags along the street when the explosion occurs. This shows a REAL explosion. Are you telling me that you believe that the magnitude of that explosion was not enough to injure people around it? That there were no injuries from this? Also, if it was just an "announced drill", why would they use a REAL explosion?

 

[Thoreau72]

- If Craft International employees conducted the "false flag" , why be so noticeable by wearing identifiable cloths.?
- Is it not possible the group of people so noticeable in so many photos were actually members of a civil support team (National Guard).

Hardly a false flag when the "perps" are so visible and caught so many times on camera and the presence of the alleged perps can easily be explained.

Yes, we know that you see most tragic events as some false flag carried out by the evil government or maybe the 1 percenters are involved.:mrgreen:

It is entirely possible that the CI guys were mere pawns, that they were being paid to deliver backpacks to a specific location not knowing what was about to happen. Possible, but highly unlikely. They are mercenaries, just like the guys who did the shooting in San Bernardino and Parkland.

Yes, maybe the NG was in on it too. I don't know. Persuade me they did.

 

[mike2810]

It is entirely possible that the CI guys were mere pawns, that they were being paid to deliver backpacks to a specific location not knowing what was about to happen. Possible, but highly unlikely. They are mercenaries, just like the guys who did the shooting in San Bernardino and Parkland.

Yes, maybe the NG was in on it too. I don't know. Persuade me they did.

Maybe it is just a way for VToday, Alex Jones, and others to keep their audience.

I wont try to persuade someone who ignores facts and is guided by the likes of VeteransToday, Alex Jones, etc.

 

[Thoreau72]

Mike

The straw that broke the camel's back for me on the BB incident was when the authorities locked down the city of Boston.

Following it only on the mainstream news, I had more or less believed the story as it developed in real time. Before I was aware of the Craft International role, before I had read the comments of Lorraine Day MD, before I had noticed the play actors and fake blood, when the authorities locked down the city I realized something was really fishy about the incident.

I'm sympathetic to the cops, but when they locked down the entire city to "protect" it from a single young white male with a pistol, I knew something was suspicious, something was being faked. Clearly they were not really trying to protect an entire city from a young white male with a pistol. Protection was not the goal, FEAR MONGERING was the goal.

Obviously, it went downhill from there, and as is the case with all of these staged events, the closer one looks, the more the story fails. The details expose the deception, as the attorney points out.

 

[mike2810]

Mike

The straw that broke the camel's back for me on the BB incident was when the authorities locked down the city of Boston.

Following it only on the mainstream news, I had more or less believed the story as it developed in real time. Before I was aware of the Craft International role, before I had read the comments of Lorraine Day MD, before I had noticed the play actors and fake blood, when the authorities locked down the city I realized something was really fishy about the incident.

I'm sympathetic to the cops, but when they locked down the entire city to "protect" it from a single young white male with a pistol, I knew something was suspicious, something was being faked. Clearly they were not really trying to protect an entire city from a young white male with a pistol. Protection was not the goal, FEAR MONGERING was the goal.

Obviously, it went downhill from there, and as is the case with all of these staged events, the closer one looks, the more the story fails. The details expose the deception, as the attorney points out.

Sorry, the information presented on sites like Veterans Today or just not creditable for the Boston Bombing incident. So what sites did you use to get information on "actors", faked blood, etc. ? Yes, I can search myself and have. I am just curious what sites you used to come to your conclusion.

I do see a trend from the likes of Alex Jones, etc. Alex Jones has now reversed his stance on Sandy Hook. He now says it happened and was not a false flag. Makes one wonder what else he has lied about with the Boston bombing.

 

[Thoreau72]

Sorry, the information presented on sites like Veterans Today or just not creditable for the Boston Bombing incident. So what sites did you use to get information on "actors", faked blood, etc. ? Yes, I can search myself and have. I am just curious what sites you used to come to your conclusion.

I do see a trend from the likes of Alex Jones, etc. Alex Jones has now reversed his stance on Sandy Hook. He now says it happened and was not a false flag. Makes one wonder what else he has lied about with the Boston bombing.

...and not a word about the imposition of martial law in Boston, as the authorities "protected" the entire city from a young man with a pistol. Ah Mike, you are consistent in your refusal to discuss events that threaten your world view.

 

[zyzygy]

The families of six victims of the 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School along with an FBI agent who was among the first to respond to the shooting sued InfoWars’ founder Alex Jones and several of his businesses on Wednesday, alleging the radio personality had defamed them by repeatedly claiming that the shooting was a hoax.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bu...alex-jones-over-sandy-hook-conspiracy-n876881

 

[zyzygy]

Alex Jones, an online conspiracy theorist who claims the Sandy Hook massacre that killed 20 children and six adults was a hoax, has hired lawyers representing a founder of the neo-Nazi Daily Stormer website to defend him against defamation claims brought in Connecticut by families of seven Sandy Hook victims.



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/us/politics/sandy-hook-alex-jones-lawyers.html

 

[zyzygy]

Alex Jones, an online conspiracy theorist who claims the Sandy Hook massacre that killed 20 children and six adults was a hoax, has hired lawyers representing a founder of the neo-Nazi Daily Stormer website to defend him against defamation claims brought in Connecticut by families of seven Sandy Hook victims.

Since days after the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., Mr. Jones has spread bogus theories that the families were “crisis actors” in a government plot to confiscate Americans’ firearms. The families have endured online abuse, physical confrontations and death threats from Mr. Jones’s devotees.

Marc Randazza and Jay Wolman of the Las Vegas-based Randazza Legal Group are defending Mr. Jones in Connecticut. The lawyers also represent Andrew Anglin, the co-founder of the Daily Stormer, who is being sued for harassment by a Montana woman after Daily Stormer followers subjected her to a torrent of anti-Semitic slurs and threats. Mr. Anglin has cited Mr. Jones as an early influence.

Mr. Jones is also facing lawsuits filed in Texas by the families of two other Sandy Hook victims, but he has different lawyers there. Together, the lawsuits pose a significant legal threat to his InfoWars empire, First Amendment lawyers say.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/us/politics/sandy-hook-alex-jones-lawyers.html

 

[zyzygy]

This Alex Jones appears to be a real fundamental orifice.

 

[mike2810]

...and not a word about the imposition of martial law in Boston, as the authorities "protected" the entire city from a young man with a pistol. Ah Mike, you are consistent in your refusal to discuss events that threaten your world view.

You seem to continue to not provide answers to questions asked. Why are you so reluctant to answer the question of "what sites did you use to get information on "actors", faked blood, etc. ?" For one to understand another's views shouldn't one share the information? One could conclude you are not so confident in your sources. That your distain for the Govt. clouds your "free thinking".


I will ask again in a more focused way. Provide a link to one source that you used that convinced you that "play actors" and "faked blood" were used on the Boston bombing event. Why not share so we all can read what you used as "evidence",

 

[Thoreau72]

You seem to continue to not provide answers to questions asked. Why are you so reluctant to answer the question of "what sites did you use to get information on "actors", faked blood, etc. ?" For one to understand another's views shouldn't one share the information? One could conclude you are not so confident in your sources. That your distain for the Govt. clouds your "free thinking".


I will ask again in a more focused way. Provide a link to one source that you used that convinced you that "play actors" and "faked blood" were used on the Boston bombing event. Why not share so we all can read what you used as "evidence",

Why are YOU so adamant to not discuss the imposition of martial law in Boston?

I've seen enough human blood Mike, splattered all over the inside of helicopters, and in other places. I was in the medical end of the US Army, and I think for myself. Lorraine Day MD was correct in her criticism. You need Scott Pelley to tell you what is thus and so, I do not. The ER doctor simply told the truth.