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The Dark Secret of America’s WWII German Death Camps

Under the war isn’t the reason Russians suffered. Under Ioseph is why they suffered........ that and the malarkey about a popular revolt.

The biggest murders of Russian Folk were performed under Lenin & Co in 1917-1924 as non-Russian Cheka brutally murdered more as 7m best Russians

History-of-the-Cheka-OGPU-NKVD-MGB-KGB-FSB.jpg


To speak about Cheka murders is politically incorrect now, because more as 98% of Cheka members were non-Russians

Until Cheka and its successors like KGB - FSB are not clearly condemned Russia will continue to suffer under Sowjet occupation.

Almost all of those who run and pillage Russia now are either former KGB officers or commie muckety mucks
 
The biggest murders of Russian Folk were performed under Lenin & Co in 1917-1924 as non-Russian Cheka brutally murdered more as 7m best Russians

History-of-the-Cheka-OGPU-NKVD-MGB-KGB-FSB.jpg


To speak about Cheka murders is politically incorrect now, because more as 98% of Cheka members were non-Russians

Until Cheka and its successors like KGB - FSB are not clearly condemned Russia will continue to suffer under Sowjet occupation.

Almost all of those who run and pillage Russia now are either former KGB officers or commie muckety mucks
Hoovers fact finding tour only made Molotov kill anyone who could’ve sent him even just a note.
 
What's about the war crime committed in 1945 against refugees from the East?
It were brutally murdered more as 0.8m innocent women with kids in Dresden.
The were no troops in Dresden.
Why presstitute MSM are strongly keeping silence about this abhorrent murder?




Holy moving goalposts Batman...
 
The biggest murders of Russian Folk were performed under Lenin & Co in 1917-1924 as non-Russian Cheka brutally murdered more as 7m best Russians

History-of-the-Cheka-OGPU-NKVD-MGB-KGB-FSB.jpg


To speak about Cheka murders is politically incorrect now, because more as 98% of Cheka members were non-Russians

Until Cheka and its successors like KGB - FSB are not clearly condemned Russia will continue to suffer under Sowjet occupation.

Almost all of those who run and pillage Russia now are either former KGB officers or commie muckety mucks

Alfons:

This is incorrect. The Bolshevik Revolutions and the Russian Civil Wars were terrible events in Russian history and both the Okrana before the Revolutions' success and the Checka after committed all sorts of atrocities. But the death toll from revolutions and civil wars was about 7-8 million souls of which at least 3 million died of diseases like typhus in 1920 alone. Add to that the deaths of 5-10 million Kulaks in the Holodomor under Stalin and you have an immense number of 12-18 million dead as a result of the revolutions and the civil war.

As appallingly large as that number of dead is, it is less than the number of Soviet citizens who died during the Great Patriotic War, which is between 25-27 million souls. Only in China do we see death tolls of this magnitude from the 19th Century onwards. Lenin, Trotsky, Beria and Stalin have the blood of millions of Russians on their hands but Hitler and the German military high command have far more Soviet/Russian blood on their hands. This is the mind-numbing calculus of war in the East.

Respectfully.
Evilroddy.
 
By that same “logic”, every American is “guilty” for the Confederacy. You making weak excuses to justify war crimes does not absolve those who committed them.

You bragging about your relatives supposedly committing war crimes says a lot about you.

Oh really? So now World War Two is the only war where Americans saw combat?

Yes, actually, the vast majority of combat soldiers clearly did give a ****, because incidents like your psychotic relatives carving up random civilians were not common.

So in other words instead of it being a war crime it’s “just” murder......and that somehow is supposed to make it okay?

No, in reality sadisticly murdering random civilians was not as common as you claim. You making excuses for war crimes is no surprise, but you smearing the name of numerous good men by trying to legitimize such crimes is sickening.

But hey, on the plus side we’ve confirmed that you think war crimes are just a-ok.

Your brilliance astounds. How many of today's Americans' ancestors were here for the Civil War? Every is a big word for you to use.

Again they were no war crimes, the war was over. Let that sink in before proceeding. It is not up to you, get that down, it is not up to you to claim revenge is murder. Your definitions are irrelevant. And damn straight, the Germans actions demanded revenge them as a people. They made it so, and they will do it again. The vengeance taken was not random, another word for you to fail with again.

Again, with all your psychiatric degrees you use the word psychotic as if it applies.

Now you claim those killings were sexual in nature?

WWII has been the war under discussion. But that's a tactic for you to use, when there is no winning argument, change the grounds of discussion. Nah, still doesn't work for you.

You have no idea what was common or not. You have no experience from being there to see for yourself, no immediate experiences with those who were there doing whatever they were doing, just whatever propaganda you've had tossed your way. You admitted in another thread you never served. You are clueless.

Throughout history, civilians have always been the targets of war. A piece of paper with the scratchings of old men who sent others off to war, now claiming a higher morality means nothing in reality. It changes less than nothing. Take a good look around this world of ours, Africa, South and Central America, Asia, Asia Minor, North Africa, wherever wars have been recently or are still being fought, it is the civilians who are being targeted. Seems some agreements from Geneva mean nothing. They do mean nothing. No one is smearing the name of good men, except those who fail to face the truth about the inhumanity of mankind. Legitimacy is another word with which you lack knowledge. The killing fields are everywhere and active.

Your vision of morality is no one else's. No one is obligated to your vision of morality. We each have unique interpretations of morality. You are stuck with that, just like everyone else. No one morality is superior to any other. None speak for the Kingdom of Heaven, and certainly not you. All you offer is an empty vessel.
 
What's about the war crime committed in 1945 against refugees from the East?
It were brutally murdered more as 0.8m innocent women with kids in Dresden.
The were no troops in Dresden.
Why presstitute MSM are strongly keeping silence about this abhorrent murder?




Hate to break it to you bud, but A) the press generally doesn’t report on things which happened
more than fifty years ago unless it’s an anniversary; B) while it’s true people debate the legitimacy of some of the raids late in the war, claiming there was nothing of military value in Dresden is a bad joke; and C) no matter how many videos you post, nothing will change the fact that every German desperately wanted to get away from the Red Army, whose troops really did behave abysmally as they made their way into Eastern Europe—- even in the small chunk of Yugoslavia that they made their way through.
 
Hate to break it to you bud, but A) the press generally doesn’t report on things which happened
more than fifty years ago unless it’s an anniversary; B) while it’s true people debate the legitimacy of some of the raids late in the war, claiming there was nothing of military value in Dresden is a bad joke; and C) no matter how many videos you post, nothing will change the fact that every German desperately wanted to get away from the Red Army, whose troops really did behave abysmally as they made their way into Eastern Europe—- even in the small chunk of Yugoslavia that they made their way through.

How many soviet people did you say Ioseph killed from 1936 till his death? ( the year that most captured Germans were returned to Germany )
 
Your brilliance astounds. How many of today's Americans' ancestors were here for the Civil War? Every is a big word for you to use.

Again they were no war crimes, the war was over. Let that sink in before proceeding. It is not up to you, get that down, it is not up to you to claim revenge is murder. Your definitions are irrelevant. And damn straight, the Germans actions demanded revenge them as a people. They made it so, and they will do it again. The vengeance taken was not random, another word for you to fail with again.

Again, with all your psychiatric degrees you use the word psychotic as if it applies.

Now you claim those killings were sexual in nature?

WWII has been the war under discussion. But that's a tactic for you to use, when there is no winning argument, change the grounds of discussion. Nah, still doesn't work for you.

You have no idea what was common or not. You have no experience from being there to see for yourself, no immediate experiences with those who were there doing whatever they were doing, just whatever propaganda you've had tossed your way. You admitted in another thread you never served. You are clueless.

Throughout history, civilians have always been the targets of war. A piece of paper with the scratchings of old men who sent others off to war, now claiming a higher morality means nothing in reality. It changes less than nothing. Take a good look around this world of ours, Africa, South and Central America, Asia, Asia Minor, North Africa, wherever wars have been recently or are still being fought, it is the civilians who are being targeted. Seems some agreements from Geneva mean nothing. They do mean nothing. No one is smearing the name of good men, except those who fail to face the truth about the inhumanity of mankind. Legitimacy is another word with which you lack knowledge. The killing fields are everywhere and active.

Your vision of morality is no one else's. No one is obligated to your vision of morality. We each have unique interpretations of morality. You are stuck with that, just like everyone else. No one morality is superior to any other. None speak for the Kingdom of Heaven, and certainly not you. All you offer is an empty vessel.

Lol your first premise isn’t even within nodding distance of reality. You just said they targeted all German males and made no distinctions..... period. By your own twisted “logic” it wouldn’t even matter whether somebody’s family had been there for the war—-they were Americans, and thus “guilty”.

Or did your uncles conduct an interview on what their victims did in the war before they started carving? :roll:

Clearly it wasn’t “over” for your uncles since you use casualties taken in combat as an justification for torture and murder of random civilians. Do you even read what you post? Do you have any idea how despicable your defense of war crimes is?

“Revenge” my ass. You just said they grabbed random Germans off the street. That’s not “revenge”; their victims weren’t the ones who killed their buddies. That’s simply a pathetically weak excuse for a couple of psychos who saw an opportunity to kill people without any danger to themselves and jumped at it.

Hate to break it to you bud, but you just said that they indiscriminately grabbed German males of any age off the street and tortured and murdered them. That’s pretty much the definition of “random”, and your psychotic relatives are damn lucky they didn’t wind up in front of a firing squad.

Oh, so they were “only” sociopaths. Does that make you feel better bud?

The irony of you pontificating about what “doesn’t work for me” when you have bragged about your relatives committing war crimes is truly laughable.

Oh look, you are trying to smear the good names of millions of men in a desperate attempt to justify the psychotic actions of your relatives. I’m not sure what’s worse; your mindless insistence that carving up random civilians was a good thing, or your fantasies that anyone who served in the military shared your uncles’ particular “hobby”.

No, what’s “clueless” is your inability to face the fact that murdering random civilians is evil.

Gee bud, that’s why they created this thing called the “Geneva Convention”—— to try to stop civilians from being victimized by thugs like your uncles—- and people like you.

All you offer is spineless defense of war crimes. Like I said before; your uncles are damn lucky they weren’t propped up against a wall and shot.
 
How many soviet people did you say Ioseph killed from 1936 till his death? ( the year that most captured Germans were returned to Germany )

And yet, as bad as he was, Russians still rallied around him when Adolf came calling.

Do you have any idea how incredibly evil you have to be to make dozens of different ethnic groups, many continually feuding, do that?
 
And yet, as bad as he was, Russians still rallied around him when Adolf came calling.

Do you have any idea how incredibly evil you have to be to make dozens of different ethnic groups, many continually feuding, do that?
yes. He learned from the October revolution how to divide and conquer. He also killed 90% of every returning person who ever touched German soil.
 
yes. He learned from the October revolution how to divide and conquer. He also killed 90% of every returning person who ever touched German soil.

Which has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever floats your boat I guess.
 
Which has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

Where he learned his craft and who he unleashed it upon bears no relevance to his evilness? Fine. If you say so.
 
Where he learned his craft and who he unleashed it upon bears no relevance to his evilness? Fine. If you say so.

Who the hell are you talking about now?

Hitler rather explicitly did not “divide and conquer”. Neither did Stalin during World War Two, for that matter.

Try being coherent next time you post.
 
Who the hell are you talking about now?

Hitler rather explicitly did not “divide and conquer”. Neither did Stalin during World War Two, for that matter.

Try being coherent next time you post.
re-read this blurb you posted. Maybe it’ll get you in that habbit.
 
re-read this blurb you posted. Maybe it’ll get you in that habbit.
Maybe installing a spell checker (for starters) will not get you suspected of inability to properly write "hobbit".;)
 
What's about the war crime committed in 1945 against refugees from the East?
It were brutally murdered more as 0.8m innocent women with kids in Dresden.
The were no troops in Dresden.
Why presstitute MSM are strongly keeping silence about this abhorrent murder?


I call BS, there were no 800,000 casualties at the bombing of Dresden.

Even "enthusiastic" estimates including those of Germany get no higher than 135,000.
 
I did the spell check thing before. The problem was, about every other post it came out differently then what I wanted.
 
I call BS, there were no 800,000 casualties at the bombing of Dresden.

Even "enthusiastic" estimates including those of Germany get no higher than 135,000.
330k. Most vanished in the tornado like wind storms.
 
If you were walking in the back alley, the fire could literally suck you into it through the house and you couldn’t do a thing about it.
 
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