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Stone Mountain –Confederate sculpture – Remove it-Yes-No?

Stone Mountain –Confederate sculpture – Remove it-Yes-No?

  • Remove it - Yes -Why

    Votes: 4 9.1%

  • Remove it- No –Why

    Votes: 35 79.5%

  • Markers prominently posted explaining the history of this and the Civil War -Yes

    Votes: 7 15.9%

  • Markers prominently posted explaining the history of this and the Civil War - No

    Votes: 5 11.4%
  • Total voters
    44
antiquity said:
Since many of our founding fathers were slave holders...should we remove them and their monuments from history?
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This is where the left won't own up to their true racial beliefs, instead deciding to spin it into, "Oh but the founding fathers weren't traitors to the United States".
 
JANFU said:
Approx 1125 people surveyed. Makes the poll bunk
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The bunk poll was not conducted by Fox News or Breitbart. It was conducted by the left leaning NPR/PBS, you know the ones righties wanted to defund.
 
Moderate Right said:
The bunk poll was not conducted by Fox News or Breitbart. It was conducted by the left leaning NPR/PBS, you know the ones righties wanted to defund.
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If you want to place credibility on a poll of 1125 people, go for it. I have higher standards.
 
JANFU said:
John Adams, the 2nd President was Protestant. When given a slave, promptly freed that person.
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Something like the first 12 presidents were Protestants.
 
JANFU said:
If you want to place credibility on a poll of 1125 people, go for it. I have higher standards.
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Well, for once I have to agree with you. NPR/PBS do not have high standards as they are biased to the left. Their federal funding should be stopped as all they do is report fake news.
 
Moderate Right said:
Well, for once I have to agree with you. NPR/PBS do not have high standards as they are biased to the left. Their federal funding should be stopped as all they do is report fake news.
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Can you list the truthful new sites for a poor peasant.
 
countryboy said:
The bigger question is, why is this all of a sudden such a problem? Why wasn't it an issue during the eight years of the Obama admin? :roll:
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"Similar battles are breaking out regularly, with recent fights waged over issues from whether to fly the Confederate battle flag over the Alabama Capitol to whether "Dixie" can be played at the new Georgia Dome in Atlanta to whether statues of civil rights leaders should join those of Confederate heroes on Monument Avenue in Richmond. In New Orleans last week, the school board was heckled by black protesters when it refused to rename 27 schools named for slave owners, including George Washington and Thomas Jefferson."
Published: January 27, 1993
 
Pozessed said:
"Similar battles are breaking out regularly, with recent fights waged over issues from whether to fly the Confederate battle flag over the Alabama Capitol to whether "Dixie" can be played at the new Georgia Dome in Atlanta to whether statues of civil rights leaders should join those of Confederate heroes on Monument Avenue in Richmond. In New Orleans last week, the school board was heckled by black protesters when it refused to rename 27 schools named for slave owners, including George Washington and Thomas Jefferson."
Published: January 27, 1993
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Fair enough, sounds like it was a local issue. Do you have a link to that source?

But still, why have I never heard of this issue? Why wasn't there a national outcry during eight years of Obama?
 
JANFU said:
Can you list the truthful new sites for a poor peasant.
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That's just it. There really aren't any. The media are either skewed to the right or skewed to the left. There are no media you can count on as being unbiased. So we continue with the left watching the left leaning mainstream media and the right watching the right slanted media. No one can be trusted to report without a bias. This is also one of the main reasons why the electorate themselves are so uber partisan and it all feeds into itself on all sides, taking both sides out farther and farther to the extremes. That's why I posted a poll from the left slanted media. Let's face it, if the poll were from Fox News or Breitbart you would be laughing too hard to take it seriously. As it turns out, you won't even accept information from the liberally slanted media if it doesn't fit into our preconceived bias.
 
JANFU said:
Approx 1125 people surveyed. Makes the poll bunk
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Are you aware of the fact that most even better yet almost all of the polls during the 2016 primaries & the 2016 general
election had far less than 1125 people surveyed. Most had 400 to1000. If you didn't realize that maybe you should
'recuse yourself' from participation in this thread. 1125 is a more than complete survey and it was performed by the
notorious progressive NPR!!!!!
 
JANFU said:
Some did not own slaves and were against slavery.
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Historical tidbit: Every single president until 1850 - save two, the Adams' - owned slaves.

That 3/5ths clause in the Constitution gave them a superior advantage.
 
Paperview said:
Historical tidbit: Every single president until 1850 - save two, the Adams' - owned slaves.

That 3/5ths clause in the Constitution gave them a superior advantage.
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Not sure what that is supposed to mean, but the slave states wanted to count theirs slaves as a whole. It was the northern states that wanted them to count less.
 
slick said:
Are you aware of the fact that most even better yet almost all of the polls during the 2016 primaries & the 2016 general
election had far less than 1125 people surveyed. Most had 400 to1000. If you didn't realize that maybe you should
'recuse yourself' from participation in this thread. 1125 is a more than complete survey and it was performed by the
notorious progressive NPR!!!!!
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Yes i am aware they had low numbers. I am also aware of rolling polls, 3 day averaging, weekly averaging, continuous rolling / averaging polls.
So you post means exactly what?
 
Fletch said:
Not sure what that is supposed to mean, but the slave states wanted to count theirs slaves as a whole. It was the northern states that wanted them to count less.
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Chew on this:


The 3/5th clause was primarily about reapportionment.

The North did not want the slaves counted - because they were property, much as a horse or cow was property.

In fact at the Constitutional Convention, some Northern reps even argued if property could be counted for reapportionment, why not their own horses?

The south wanted full count to beef up their numbers in Congress, which it did -- they just didn't want those same people -- er, property, to vote or to actually have representation.

That would kinda jam up their plans.

It was a dirty compromise - because the southerners said they would not ratify the Constitution if they could not give their slave property at least 3/5ths representation in Congress.

Without giving them representation. They used their slaves as hostages to the negotiation.
The deal was done, then the South dominated congress for near all of the first quarter of our history.

Eight of the first nine presidential races were won by a Virginian - which was the most populous state.

And this: Every single president, with the exception of two (from the North, the Adams') until 1850 - was a slaveowner.
 
JANFU said:
Yes i am aware they had low numbers. I am also aware of rolling polls, 3 day averaging, weekly averaging, continuous rolling / averaging polls.
So you post means exactly what?
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That this poll has an error defect far less than all the polls during the long election process.
How many people do you suggest they survey in order for you to consider it legit, 40,000?
 
Paperview said:
Chew on this:


The 3/5th clause was primarily about reapportionment.

The North did not want the slaves counted - because they were property, much as a horse or cow was property.

In fact at the Constitutional Convention, some Northern reps even argued if property could be counted for reapportionment, why not their own horses?

The south wanted full count to beef up their numbers in Congress, which it did -- they just didn't want those same people -- er, property, to vote or to actually have representation.

That would kinda jam up their plans.

It was a dirty compromise - because the southerners said they would not ratify the Constitution if they could not give their slave property at least 3/5ths representation in Congress.

Without giving them representation. They used their slaves as hostages to the negotiation.
The deal was done, then the South dominated congress for near all of the first quarter of our history.

Eight of the first nine presidential races were won by a Virginian - which was the most populous state.

And this: Every single president, with the exception of two (from the North, the Adams') until 1850 - was a slaveowner.
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Yes, and the point is?
 
I say leave it up to the locals to decide.
 
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