State Dept Official met with Christopher Steele before FBI filed FISA application

[GDViking]

For one, Trump says he did not instruct McGahn to fire Mueller. McGahn's interview with Mueller says Trump did. A Trump LIE.

So you want to try that again!

You have over 10,000 more examples...

 

[apdst]

Wow!! The leaders of the FBI disregarded the concerns of a subordinate

Trump would never do that

Drip...drip...drip...

 

[apdst]

Their mission has nothing to do with the law. It's about "justice". What they mean with that term isn't "equal treatment under the law". What they mean is regulation of outcomes across the globe. This is Kipling's "White Man's Burden" writ large. This is about international leaders who have decided that the only way to global peace and global prosperity is through global government. These people, the "progressives", believe that they are actually sacrificing their interests in an effort to make the world better for everyone. They believe that they are sacrificing beceuse the great unwashed masses don't see the "truth" as clearly as they do and oppose them at every step.

Global communism.

 

[Fenton]

Really, filled with lies, name three.

And keep in mind Steele himself when submitting the dossier that he figured it to be about 75% accurate.

More than that has been verified, I am unaware of anything that has been proven false.

Ok,

Lie #1: Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague to meet with Russians

Lie #2: Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort owed the Russians $100 million and was the "go-between" from Russian President Vladimir Putin to Trump;

Lie #3: Trump adviser Carter Page met with a senior Russian businessman tied to Putin;

Lie #4: The Russians secretly communicated with Trump through a computer system

Lie #5: Russian consular employees in Miami

As if thats not bad enough, the State Department official that Steele met with 10 days before the FBI submitted their first FISA application took notes of their conversation.

Steele told her his client ( the DNC ) wanted his information released prior to the election, and Steele told her he had already leaked some if this information to WaPo and the NYTs. She also noted the obvious lies and fabrications.

According to her she submitted her notes to a senior FBI official 10 days before the FBI filed it's first FISA warrant.

So who was the senior FBI official that ignored her warnings ? I'm betting we'll find out soon enough

 

[Fenton]

This is pretty simple. First, the FBI looks at information that's wrong, and information that's right, like Steele's claims of Russian interference in the election. The evidence they had, which was more than the Steele information which was correct, led them to investigate.

The result was the Mueller report, which proved "The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion", with dozens of indictments including Russians for it. But the Republicans here are lying that Steele's claims were false and the FBI did wrong, and that the fact they talked to Steele - even if he'd been wrong, which he wasn't - is some terrible crime instead of the proper job they have and did.

Here's a few of the already debunked claims made by Steele.

Lie #1: Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague to meet with Russians

Lie #2: Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort owed the Russians $100 million and was the "go-between" from Russian President Vladimir Putin to Trump;

Lie #3: Trump adviser Carter Page met with a senior Russian businessman tied to Putin;

Lie #4: The Russians secretly communicated with Trump through a computer system

Lie #5: Russian consular employees in Miami. There is no Russian consulate in Miami


Oh, and now it's back to Russian meddling ?
Steele wasn't hired to investigate " Russian meddling ". He was hired by the DNC and Hilary's campaign to dig up dirt on Donald Trump ( whether it was true or not ) and leak that dirt to the media so it could be made public prior to the election.

He did leak to the Media and it was made public prior to the election.

And if the FBI didn't " do wrong " why is the Ex- FBI General Counsel James Baker the subject of a criminal investigation for leaking ?


Former FBI General Counsel James Baker under criminal investigation
Former FBI General Counsel James Baker under criminal investigation - CNNPolitics

 

[Fenton]

Just so you know, the government is actually going to turn a profit from the assets seized of Paul Manafort that are worth up to $45 million. Now that 'Rapey' Brett is sitting on the SC throne, it's likely that all the good laws passed for this country in the last 30 years will be undone, one by one.

Lol !! Oh for God's sake

The " Government " is 20 trillion dollars in debt, so in order for them to make a " profit " of 45 million dollars, they would have to pay off all their debt

Profit is net-revenue minus expenses and debt

 

[DukeZorba]

Here's a few of the already debunked claims made by Steele.

Lie #1: Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague to meet with Russians

Lie #2: Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort owed the Russians $100 million and was the "go-between" from Russian President Vladimir Putin to Trump;

Lie #3: Trump adviser Carter Page met with a senior Russian businessman tied to Putin;

Lie #4: The Russians secretly communicated with Trump through a computer system

Lie #5: Russian consular employees in Miami. There is no Russian consulate in Miami


Oh, and now it's back to Russian meddling ?
Steele wasn't hired to investigate " Russian meddling ". He was hired by the DNC and Hilary's campaign to dig up dirt on Donald Trump ( whether it was true or not ) and leak that dirt to the media so it could be made public prior to the election.

He did leak to the Media and it was made public prior to the election.

And if the FBI didn't " do wrong " why is the Ex- FBI General Counsel James Baker the subject of a criminal investigation for leaking ?


Former FBI General Counsel James Baker under criminal investigation
Former FBI General Counsel James Baker under criminal investigation - CNNPolitics

Intelligence agencies from around the world, including Britain, Germany, France, Australia etc., all warned the US of Trump's Russian entanglements.

Please don't play innocent.

Russia did cyber attack our country. That's incontrovertible. Trump denied that attack all the while he knew Russia was working to help elect him president. And even though the FBI warned both candidates of the Russian overtures to corrupt our election in 2016, Trump kept his Russian contacts a secret from the cops and continued to benefit from them. That's in the Mueller Report as well. You'd know that if you read it.

There is no Deep State. That DS was concocted by Trump to explain why the 200+ Russian entanglements he and his people had were under criminal investigation for election fraud. Every two bit criminal in the joint can claim 'Deep State' with the same effect.

If anyone has a complaint about the FBI, it should be Clinton. She had her candidacy ruined by Comey's ineptitude in reopening a closed case needlessly. And Strzok authored the actual press release that torpedoed Clinton. And before we go off on Clinton, let me clear up a few things: Clinton broke no law. She used a private server for storing classified information. That shows a standard of care. A standard of care is not gross negligence which was required under the law for criminal liability. She did not scrub her hard drive/server with acid. She did not take a hammer to those things either.

We have, by all accounts, a Russian asset in the White House and the people on the right are still pushing total fantasies of Benghazi, Uranium 1, pizzagate and on and on.

 

[DukeZorba]

Lol !! Oh for God's sake

The " Government " is 20 trillion dollars in debt, so in order for them to make a " profit " of 45 million dollars, they would have to pay off all their debt

Profit is net-revenue minus expenses and debt

You are being disingenuous for some reason. Obviously the quote you are commenting on is in reference to the putative cost of the Mueller probe vs. the revenue the probe generated. That's not measured against the basis of the entire federal government's debt.

That's really a dishonest thing to do.

 

[HumblePi]

Lol !! Oh for God's sake

The " Government " is 20 trillion dollars in debt, so in order for them to make a " profit " of 45 million dollars, they would have to pay off all their debt

Profit is net-revenue minus expenses and debt

Wrong.

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation could turn a profit for the government, thanks to Paul Manafort’s asset forfeiture Mueller probe could turn a profit, thanks to Manafort assets

Mueller may have also paid for his own investigation.

That’s because, as part of his plea deal with the special counsel, Manafort agreed to forfeit real estate and cash estimated to be worth between $42 million and $46 million.

CNBC
Mueller's investigation could turn a profit, thanks to Manafort's assets
Mueller's investigation could turn a profit, thanks to Manafort's assets

Special counsel Robert Mueller secured a win last Friday, with President Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, pleading guilty to conspiracy charges and agreeing to cooperate with the ongoing investigation.

Mueller may have also paid for his own investigation.

That's because, as part of his plea deal with the special counsel, Manafort agreed to forfeit real estate and cash estimated to be worth between $42 million and $46 million. The special counsel's office declined to provide an estimate for the value of the assets.

Those properties include Manafort's Trump Tower apartment, two apartments in lower Manahttan worth about $3 million and $4 million, a brownstone in Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn, and his sprawling 10-bedroom mansion in the Hamptons section of Long Island.

Manafort will also give up money in three bank account and in his life insurance policy.

 

[GDViking]

Ok,

Lie #1: Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague to meet with Russians

Lie #2: Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort owed the Russians $100 million and was the "go-between" from Russian President Vladimir Putin to Trump;

Lie #3: Trump adviser Carter Page met with a senior Russian businessman tied to Putin;

Lie #4: The Russians secretly communicated with Trump through a computer system

Lie #5: Russian consular employees in Miami

As if thats not bad enough, the State Department official that Steele met with 10 days before the FBI submitted their first FISA application took notes of their conversation.

Steele told her his client ( the DNC ) wanted his information released prior to the election, and Steele told her he had already leaked some if this information to WaPo and the NYTs. She also noted the obvious lies and fabrications.

According to her she submitted her notes to a senior FBI official 10 days before the FBI filed it's first FISA warrant.

So who was the senior FBI official that ignored her warnings ? I'm betting we'll find out soon enough

#1 never disproven, unless you believe Cohen. And even if he is telling the truth it is highly likely it was someone else.

#2 was actually proven when manafort offered intelligence information to pay off his debt.

#3 we do know Paige met with many Russians, bow can you call that a lie?

#4 we know they tried to set up just such a back channel, never disproven...

#5 not even mentioned in the dossier...

There were notes taken, big deal. None of them have anything to do with discrediting the dossier.

And of course his client wanted the information released before the election, duh...

 

[Fenton]

Wrong.

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation could turn a profit for the government, thanks to Paul Manafort’s asset forfeiture Mueller probe could turn a profit, thanks to Manafort assets

Mueller may have also paid for his own investigation.

That’s because, as part of his plea deal with the special counsel, Manafort agreed to forfeit real estate and cash estimated to be worth between $42 million and $46 million.

CNBC
Mueller's investigation could turn a profit, thanks to Manafort's assets
Mueller's investigation could turn a profit, thanks to Manafort's assets

Special counsel Robert Mueller secured a win last Friday, with President Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, pleading guilty to conspiracy charges and agreeing to cooperate with the ongoing investigation.

Mueller may have also paid for his own investigation.

That's because, as part of his plea deal with the special counsel, Manafort agreed to forfeit real estate and cash estimated to be worth between $42 million and $46 million. The special counsel's office declined to provide an estimate for the value of the assets.

Those properties include Manafort's Trump Tower apartment, two apartments in lower Manahttan worth about $3 million and $4 million, a brownstone in Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn, and his sprawling 10-bedroom mansion in the Hamptons section of Long Island.

Manafort will also give up money in three bank account and in his life insurance policy.

Thanks for confirming that MSNBC is staffed by a bunch of financially illiterate hacks

 

[HumblePi]

Thanks for confirming that MSNBC is staffed by a bunch of financially illiterate hacks

Yeah, I'm on it. I knew that one of you Trumpers would accuse MSNBC of being biased so I had a few more links ready for you that have nothing to do with MSNBC.

Mueller probe: Costly investigation could break even after condo fight

Mueller Report: How Much Did the Mueller Investigation Cost? | Money

Mueller'''s investigation could turn a profit, thanks to Manafort'''s assets

Mueller Investigation Will Earn The U.S. A Profit | TheKnightReport.net

 

[ashurbanipal]

One of her concerns was the numerous inaccuracies in Steele's dossier. The dossier referenced a Russian consulate in Miami

There IS NO RUSSIAN CONSULATE IN MIAMI. Kavalec picked up on this and other obvious false statements immediately

The link you provided to Kavalec's notes indicate that these are her notes from a conversation with Steele--not notes about the dossier. Perhaps Steele simply misremembered something when talking with her. Perhaps she misunderstood him. Of course, perhaps the dossier does say something about a Russian consulate in Miami--but that's not currently in evidence.

Also, her notes indicate only one false statement, not others.

 

[Fenton]

Intelligence agencies from around the world, including Britain, Germany, France, Australia etc., all warned the US of Trump's Russian entanglements..

Intelligence agencies from around the world warned of Trumps Russian entanglements ? Did you just make that up ??
The Mueller report stated that " evidence did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

l Pease don't play innocent...

I'll stop playing innocent if you stop playing dumb. Deal ?

Russia did cyber attack our country. That's incontrovertible. Trump denied that attack all the while he knew Russia was working to help elect him president. ...

:lamo :lamo :lamo
THIS is how the Obama administration responded to Russian cyber attacks....
Obama's cybersecurity coordinator confirms Susan Rice ordered him to 'stand down' on Russian meddling
Obama's cybersecurity coordinator confirms Susan Rice ordered him to 'stand down' on Russian meddling

And even though the FBI warned both candidates of the Russian overtures to corrupt our election in 2016, Trump kept his Russian contacts a secret from the cops and continued to benefit from them.

Both Republican and Democrat nominees receive a standardized briefing on counterintelligence to educate the candidates and their top aides about potential threats from foreign spies.
This is hilarious considering the FBI had been spying on Tumps campaign for months AND had sent their own spies to make contact with campaign officials

That's in the Mueller Report as well. You'd know that if you read it

Have you read it ? Because this was also in the Mueller report Putin spoke of the difficulty faced by the Russian government in getting in touch with the incoming Trump Administration” and that Putin "generally did not know the people around the President-elect.”

If anyone has a complaint about the FBI, it should be Clinton. She had her candidacy ruined by Comey's ineptitude in reopening a closed case needlessly. And Strzok authored the actual press release that torpedoed Clinton.

Funny, every Media outlet had her beating the pants off Trump the morning of the election. The NYTs had her chances of winning at 94% the morning of the election. No one thought Comeys announcement hurt her before the election

Clinton broke no law. She used a private server for storing classified information. That shows a standard of care.

LMAO !!

We have, by all accounts, a Russian asset in the White House.

:doh

 

[Fishking]

It's quite incredible to see all the leftists here licking the jackbooted power of the federal government behaving in a corrupt manner beyond almost anything we've see in the modern era because it doesn't benefit them politically. Utterly pathetic.

The foundations of my country (no, you don't get to claim the U.S. as your country) has always been about limited governmental power, especially at the federal level. See the blind walk around no understanding that governmental power is holding a tiger by it's tail. It will turn around on you.

 

[Fenton]

The link you provided to Kavalec's notes indicate that these are her notes from a conversation with Steele--not notes about the dossier. Perhaps Steele simply misremembered something when talking with her. Perhaps she misunderstood him. Of course, perhaps the dossier does say something about a Russian consulate in Miami--but that's not currently in evidence.

Also, her notes indicate only one false statement, not others.

Her notes we're forwarded to FBI Special Agent Stephen Laycock, who then forwarded them to the team heading up the Trump Russia investigation who received the notes days before they filled for their first FISA application

State Department handwritten notes of meeting with Christopher Steele (324K views)

 

[ashurbanipal]

Her notes we're forwarded to FBI Special Agent Stephen Laycock, who then forwarded them to the team heading up the Trump Russia investigation who received the notes days before they filled for their first FISA application

State Department handwritten notes of meeting with Christopher Steele (324K views)

So what? Her notes identified one factually incorrect claim that, according to her recollection, came out of a conversation with Steele. Do we know that that same falsehood appears in the dossier? Your story would amount to nothing if it turned out that those FBI fellows looked at the dossier and didn't find any mention of a Russian consulate in Miami.

Now, to be clear, I don't know whether the dossier says anything about that, and I'm betting neither do you. To make your case, you'd need to ensure that it does, and if so, I'd acknowledge this story has some importance. How much? Well...that'd depend on how many such communiques they receive a day, for one thing. If they get a couple million of them a day, for example, you could hardly blame them for having lost this one in the shuffle. If, on the other hand, you could show that this made it to senior officials who decided specifically to suppress it so as to ensure they could get the FISA application, you'd have something. But it's a looooooooonnnnnnnnnngggggggggg way from what you have in evidence to get to what you would need to make your case.

 

[Fenton]

So what? Her notes identified one factually incorrect claim that, according to her recollection, came out of a conversation with Steele. Do we know that that same falsehood appears in the dossier? Your story would amount to nothing if it turned out that those FBI fellows looked at the dossier and didn't find any mention of a Russian consulate in Miami.

Now, to be clear, I don't know whether the dossier says anything about that, and I'm betting neither do you. To make your case, you'd need to ensure that it does, and if so, I'd acknowledge this story has some importance. How much? Well...that'd depend on how many such communiques they receive a day, for one thing. If they get a couple million of them a day, for example, you could hardly blame them for having lost this one in the shuffle. If, on the other hand, you could show that this made it to senior officials who decided specifically to suppress it so as to ensure they could get the FISA application, you'd have something. But it's a looooooooonnnnnnnnnngggggggggg way from what you have in evidence to get to what you would need to make your case.

Her notes identified a lot more than that.

For example, she noted that Steele bewas working for Orbis who was contracted by the DNC.

"Orbis undertook the investigation into the Russia/Trump connection at the behest of an institution he declined to identify that had been hacked "


That his " client " wanted his information to be made public prior to the election ( it was )

"The institution approached them based on the recommendation of Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch (specialists in economic crime, formerly of the WSJ) and is keen to see this information come to light prior to November 8"


She noted when he began contacting and leaking to media outlets

June — reporting started,” she wrote. “NYT and WP have,”

The FBI or more specifically the team running the investigation obviously ignored her concern's and never bothered to vet the dossier


If they had they would have found multiple in inaccuracies including...

1) Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague to meet with Russians. ( He was never in Prague )

2) Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort owed the Russians $100 million and was the “go-between” from Russian President Vladimir Putin to Trump ( Lie )

Trump adviser Carter Page met with a senior Russian businessman tied to Putin; ( Lie )

The Russians secretly communicated with Trump through a computer system ( Lie )

 

[sangha]

So what? Her notes identified one factually incorrect claim that, according to her recollection, came out of a conversation with Steele. Do we know that that same falsehood appears in the dossier? Your story would amount to nothing if it turned out that those FBI fellows looked at the dossier and didn't find any mention of a Russian consulate in Miami.

Now, to be clear, I don't know whether the dossier says anything about that, and I'm betting neither do you. To make your case, you'd need to ensure that it does, and if so, I'd acknowledge this story has some importance. How much? Well...that'd depend on how many such communiques they receive a day, for one thing. If they get a couple million of them a day, for example, you could hardly blame them for having lost this one in the shuffle. If, on the other hand, you could show that this made it to senior officials who decided specifically to suppress it so as to ensure they could get the FISA application, you'd have something. But it's a looooooooonnnnnnnnnngggggggggg way from what you have in evidence to get to what you would need to make your case.

The Steele dossier is online. It says nothing about any consulate in Miami or anywhere else

 

[ashurbanipal]

The Steele dossier is online. It says nothing about any consulate in Miami or anywhere else

Ah, thank you for the information. I've been paying a lot less attention to the issue, and politics in general, over the last year or so.

In any event, that there's no mention of a Russian Consulate in Miami in the dossier more or less obviates any possible validity to this story.

 

[JasperL]

It seems they knew the material was false but swore it was verified before the FISA court.
Looks like big trouble on the horizon for those involved in the Russian Collusion scandal.

They did? What part of the dossier did they incorrectly swear was verified?

 

[JasperL]

Her notes identified a lot more than that.

For example, she noted that Steele bewas working for Orbis who was contracted by the DNC.

"Orbis undertook the investigation into the Russia/Trump connection at the behest of an institution he declined to identify that had been hacked "

Yeah, and that was disclosed in the FISA application

That his " client " wanted his information to be made public prior to the election ( it was )

"The institution approached them based on the recommendation of Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch (specialists in economic crime, formerly of the WSJ) and is keen to see this information come to light prior to November 8"

Of course - the point of opposition research is to use in elections. That's why someone paid the money for the research. This is not a revelation, unless someone can find evidence Steele represented he was paid for some other purpose, just someone who had an interest in Trump for a weird reason having nothing to do with the upcoming POTUS election. Of course that evidence doesn't exist because he never made any such false representations. We know that in part because of what was included in the FISA application.

She noted when he began contacting and leaking to media outlets

June — reporting started,” she wrote. “NYT and WP have,”

The FBI or more specifically the team running the investigation obviously ignored her concern's and never bothered to vet the dossier

That they didn't vet "the allegations" (there were dozens) is a baseless allegation.

If they had they would have found multiple in inaccuracies including...

1) Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague to meet with Russians. ( He was never in Prague )

2) Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort owed the Russians $100 million and was the “go-between” from Russian President Vladimir Putin to Trump ( Lie )

Trump adviser Carter Page met with a senior Russian businessman tied to Putin; ( Lie )

The Russians secretly communicated with Trump through a computer system ( Lie )

We know for example that Manafort owed $millions, reportedly well over $10 million because we have emails about Manafort wanting to use his position with Trump to get "whole" with who he owed $millions.

As to the rest, which of those allegations were relied on by the FBI for the FISA warrant, for example, with no vetting. Can you be specific? The dossier is several reports covering 30+ pages with dozens of allegations.

 

[ashurbanipal]

Her notes identified a lot more than that.

For example, she noted that Steele bewas working for Orbis who was contracted by the DNC.

"Orbis undertook the investigation into the Russia/Trump connection at the behest of an institution he declined to identify that had been hacked "

Well, so what? Clinton might well have claimed, for example, that Russia was trying to help Trump. That she would personally benefit from people realizing this fact and not voting for him wouldn't make her claim false. Similarly, merely because the Clinton campaign, or a firm contracted by the DNC, was carrying out the investigation, doesn't mean anything in the dossier is false.

Consider an entirely different case: Trump rather regularly emphasized Clinton's emails and the business about her using a private server that didn't meet the required standard of security. That he was running against her does not itself mean he had no point. Actually, I think that few democrat voters really understand how bad what she did was. It should have been disqualifying.

That his " client " wanted his information to be made public prior to the election ( it was )

"The institution approached them based on the recommendation of Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch (specialists in economic crime, formerly of the WSJ) and is keen to see this information come to light prior to November 8"

OK. How is that false?

She noted when he began contacting and leaking to media outlets

June — reporting started,” she wrote. “NYT and WP have,”

As I understand it, Steele is a private citizen of the U.K. and was at the time he was doing the research for the dossier. Did he leak illegally obtained information, or classified information, or something like that? If not, even if he was the one doing the leaking (which bit you quoted doesn't really say that he did), there doesn't seem to be any problem. Private citizens can come into information about a candidate and give it to news outlets. As long as it's not classified, it's not an outright lie, and they didn't commit a crime in obtaining it, there is no moral or legal problem with their action.

The FBI or more specifically the team running the investigation obviously ignored her concern's and never bothered to vet the dossier

Also not in evidence.

If they had they would have found multiple in inaccuracies including...

1) Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague to meet with Russians. ( He was never in Prague )

It's odd that you believe Cohen's claim here. I wonder if you believe everything else he's said--specifically about Trump? Anyway, as it happens I think it's reasonable to believe him. However, there is also apparently data indicating a cell phone owned by Cohen pinged some towers in or around Prague at the time of the supposed meeting. Could be a glitch, but it does provide justification for thinking that he was in or near Prague at that time. That is, if Steele had received this information about the cell phone pings, in the absence of any other information, it would have been reasonable for him to believe that Cohen was in Prague.

2) Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort owed the Russians $100 million and was the “go-between” from Russian President Vladimir Putin to Trump ( Lie )

First, there's a difference between a false claim and a lie. If I utter a falsehood that I believe to be true, and I believe it on grounds that would normally be enough to ensure that it's correct, I'm not lying.

Anyway, thanks to Sangha's recent post, I just went through the text of the dossier and don't find that it claims anywhere that Manafort "owed the Russian's $100 million." Nor does it claim that he was a "go-between" for Trump and Putin. Perhaps you could quote the parts to which you are referring, so we could discuss them?

Trump adviser Carter Page met with a senior Russian businessman tied to Putin; ( Lie )

Page denies it, but then he would do, wouldn't he? Anyway, the dossier doesn't say that he did meet with Sechin. The dossier says that according to a senior aide to Sechin, such a meeting took place. Subtle but important difference.

The Russians secretly communicated with Trump through a computer system ( Lie )

We know that there were attempts to set up such a system between the Trump campaign through Alfa bank; there's just no evidence, on investigation, that the system ever worked. But that said, the dossier doesn't seem to say anything about this either.

 

[ludin]

Ten days before the FBI filed it's first FISA application on Carter Page, Christopher Steele met with Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec to discuss the dossier.

Kavalec documented the conversation which included her concerns over Steele's political motives, his contact with WaPo an the NYTs, the obvious inaccuracies contained within the dossier, and his " clients " need to get Steele's information out to the public prior to the 2016 election

She immediately forwarded her notes to a senior FBI official but of-course, the FBI used Steele's information anyway

Here's a link to her notes, which were made public last week
Kavalec Less Redacted Memo (58K views)


State Department official cited Seele in emails with Ohr after flagging credibility issues to FBI, docs reveal
State Department official cited Steele in emails with Ohr after flagging credibility issues to FBI, docs reveal | Fox News

" According to Kevalec's notes, Steele told her of*“a technical/human operation run out of Moscow targeting the election" and acknowledged that he wanted his allegations publicized in advance of the 2016 presidential election.

Steele also told Kevalec that*“payments to those recruited are made out of the Russian Consulate in Miami," according to Kevalec's notes. Kevalec*quickly debunked Steele's assertion, writing in her memo: “It is important to note that there is no Russian " consulate in Miami.”

No wonder why the Democrats are attacking Barr and Trump. They know what's coming

This right here is an unmitigated disaster. there is no writing this away or washing it down the drain.
there is nothing they can do to cover this up.

the FBI and CIA knew upfront that the information was false and have admitted that without the dossier they never would have gotten the FISA warrant.
so everyone that signed or attested to the warrants needs to be arrested and picked up for
perjury
conspiracy to commit fraud
fraud
and a whole slew of other charges.

 

[nekrodev]

I love that the topics like this from conservatives all talk about how the Dems aren't happy now that they're being investigated and stuff - but the most I've seen is that they've called it a partisan move and a waste of time and resources.

Where are all of the Democrats and liberals calling this a HOAX and WITCH HUNT and stuff? Where is the outrage from the Dems about this? I haven't seen it. They're not worried because there's nothing to be worried about. Even if the Steele dossier wasn't on the up and up, that doesn't change anything we found out in the Mueller investigation. It's not as if Nancy Pelosi or Adam Schiff or whoever was the one making the decision for the things related to this. If anything, there might be some negligent or partisan actors from the Justice Department and State Department and **** that will go down. And they should, if they committed crimes or acted unethically.