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State Dept Official met with Christopher Steele before FBI filed FISA application

Fenton said:
Have you not read the Op ? Go back to the first place age and read my initial post.
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I read it. Didn't see anything groundbreaking


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HumblePi said:
It's hysterical that the only ones with fear are Trump and Fox supporters. They're so consumed with fear that Trump's lies and crimes are about to be exposed that they're jumping all over this 'investigation'. Nobody on the left cares one bit about it.
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You really can't believe that. Since Kavnaugh everything the left has tried has blown up in their face. They spent millions on a so called investigation only to find that gotcha too has no legs. Now it's on to House investigations. This too shall fail.

If Trump's lies and crimes are about to be exposed, they already would have been.
 
HumblePi said:
It's hysterical that the only ones with fear are Trump and Fox supporters. They're so consumed with fear that Trump's lies and crimes are about to be exposed that they're jumping all over this 'investigation'. Nobody on the left cares one bit about it.
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Could you explain to me what the basic allegations are?

Is this just a revival of the release the memo fake controversy?


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sangha said:
The Steele dossier doesn't reference any consulate in Miami. It does reference Russian emigres in Miami
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Is this anything other than Smoke and Mirrors?

What can a corrupt AG actually do as far as wrongful prosecution?


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jimbo said:
You really can't believe that. Since Kavnaugh everything the left has tried has blown up in their face. They spent millions on a so called investigation only to find that gotcha too has no legs. Now it's on to House investigations. This too shall fail.

If Trump's lies and crimes are about to be exposed, they already would have been.
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For one, Trump says he did not instruct McGahn to fire Mueller. McGahn's interview with Mueller says Trump did. A Trump LIE.

So you want to try that again!
 
HumblePi said:
People such as yourself don't even really comprehend exactly what the Steele dossier was. The dossier was actually a series of reports—16 in all—that total 35 pages. It was written in 2016, and it's a collection of raw intelligence. Steele neither evaluated nor synthesized the intelligence. He neither made nor rendered bottom-line judgments. The dossier is, quite simply and by design, raw reporting, not a finished intelligence product.

Christopher Steele recorded what he was told by witnesses during investigations. This is exactly what a MI6 British intelligence agent has been trained to do. The substance of these memorandum can be true or false, but the recording of information is (or should be) accurate. In that sense, notes taken by a special agent have much in common with the notes that a journalist might take while covering a story—the substance of those notes could be true or false, depending on what the source tells the journalist, but the transcription should be accurate.

Witch-hunting the dossier is the only thread left that the right has to pull on, so they'll do that. That's fine, that's their right. It's going to be a big waste of taxpayer money because it's already been scrutinized and dissected many times by many Republicans including the sycophantic, rabid Freedom Caucus Senators. The dossier has held up well over time, and none of it has been disproved.
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And guess what...the FBI didn't verify anything in that "series of reports". Yet, they used it as the basis for their FISA application and they outright lied about the credibility of Steele.

Don't you find that disturbing?
 
jimbo said:
You really can't believe that. Since Kavnaugh everything the left has tried has blown up in their face. They spent millions on a so called investigation only to find that gotcha too has no legs. Now it's on to House investigations. This too shall fail.

If Trump's lies and crimes are about to be exposed, they already would have been.
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Just so you know, the government is actually going to turn a profit from the assets seized of Paul Manafort that are worth up to $45 million. Now that 'Rapey' Brett is sitting on the SC throne, it's likely that all the good laws passed for this country in the last 30 years will be undone, one by one.
 
Mycroft said:
And guess what...the FBI didn't verify anything in that "series of reports". Yet, they used it as the basis for their FISA application and they outright lied about the credibility of Steele.

Don't you find that disturbing?
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I would find it much more disturbing if Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen and now Michael Flynn weren't found guilty of multiple charges and sent to prison.
 
HumblePi said:
I would find it much more disturbing if Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen and now Michael Flynn weren't found guilty of multiple charges and sent to prison.
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Manafort went to prison for crimes that had nothing to do with Trump.

Cohen went to prison to spare his wife going to prison.

Flynn has done nothing to go to prison for.

But Comey? Lying to Congress. Leaking classified information to the media. Directing a corrupt political operation against an American citizen.

There's a whole slew of other top FBI officials who took part in that operation, not to mention officials from the CIA, State Department, other agencies and the White House in the Obama administration.

That Steele dossier is just a minor part of the whole mess.
 
Winston said:
Is this anything other than Smoke and Mirrors?

What can a corrupt AG actually do as far as wrongful prosecution?


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What a corrupt AG can do, and is doing, is string the right wing CTers along to score political points
 
Mycroft said:
And guess what...the FBI didn't verify anything in that "series of reports". Yet, they used it as the basis for their FISA application and they outright lied about the credibility of Steele.

Don't you find that disturbing?
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If it were true

But it's not
 
sangha said:
What a corrupt AG can do, and is doing, is string the right wing CTers along to score political points
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As grotesque as the Trump administration has been with Fat Donald at its head and a bevy of incompetent and corrupt officials working for him, none of it including bozos like Ben Carson is as grotesque as the mating of a smart but unscrupulous man, Bill Barr with a bombastically corrupt and self-aggrandizing man, Donald Trump.
 
Mycroft said:
And guess what...the FBI didn't verify anything in that "series of reports". Yet, they used it as the basis for their FISA application and they outright lied about the credibility of Steele.

Don't you find that disturbing?
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The things Trumpets claim the FBI "outright lied about" changes with the New England Weather. First it was "they claimed to have verified it" which is laughable on its face. They likely have tried to corroborate it. But its raw intel. This is another case of misinterpretation, much like some in the audience misinterpret Evidence as Facts.

Next its that they "outright lied about" the credibility of Steele. Credibility is a relative term and a moving target. The officials who have spoken publicly have said they still believed Steele to be credible at that time. It does appear that Steele lost some credibility in their eyes and what did they do? Stopped working with him.

What do you people want? There are no perfect people in this world. Heck imperfect James Comey likely got your boy elected. That should be enough imperfection working in your favor for a lifetime!
 
sangha said:
If it were true

But it's not
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Talk is cheap. Especially your talk.

If you think something I said is not true, make your case.
 
Fenton said:
Lol ! At she least she knows how to read, and no, it lacks credibility because it's filled with lies

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Really, filled with lies, name three.

And keep in mind Steele himself when submitting the dossier that he figured it to be about 75% accurate.

More than that has been verified, I am unaware of anything that has been proven false.
 
I don't speak Fenton, and this is not one of those days where I spend an inordinate amount of time on DP. Yet in spite of that, I've read the OP three times in a row and I don't have the first clue what the takeaway is supposed to be. So if somebody...ideally not a q-anon follower...could interpret it for me, I'd appreciate it.
 
This is pretty simple. First, the FBI looks at information that's wrong, and information that's right, like Steele's claims of Russian interference in the election. The evidence they had, which was more than the Steele information which was correct, led them to investigate.

The result was the Mueller report, which proved "The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion", with dozens of indictments including Russians for it. But the Republicans here are lying that Steele's claims were false and the FBI did wrong, and that the fact they talked to Steele - even if he'd been wrong, which he wasn't - is some terrible crime instead of the proper job they have and did.
 
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