Socialism Rising: Dems take House pushing massive government expansion

[Conservative]

Too bad that half of Trumps increased growth comes from increased Govt. spending and even that is waning. His tax cuts for the wealthy have ballooned the deficit and spurred only a mediocre growth spurt that is already petering out. What a bust.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/government-and-military-spending-fuel-u-s-growth-1540459800

Is this an act? You are truly clueless, Treasury.org data at BEA.gov tells a different story.. I love making you look foolish. GDP growth is up over 2 TRILLION dollars in two years, Obama generated 4.2 trillion in 8 and most of that growth is consumer spending, the largest component of GDP. Not sure why you refuse to go to Treasury but the articles you post aren't in context, Treasury data is

 

[PleasantValley]

Ah yes.

Back to the Obama era, howling at the moon rhetoric: SOCIALISM!

...and yet two years ago the howling at the moon was exactly what the Democrats did...literally...on the anniversary of Trump's election.
Nice choice of words.

 

[Conservative]

=iguanaman;1069494059]Too bad that half of Trumps increased growth comes from increased Govt. spending and even that is waning. His tax cuts for the wealthy have ballooned the deficit and spurred only a mediocre growth spurt that is already petering out. What a bust.

Here's the official data that you want to ignore and makes your claims totally false but not surprising coming from you. Govt. spending this year 3.4 trillion dollars, In 2016 that was 3.3 trillion so where is that major increase in govt. spending??

Consumer spending 14.1 trillion through the first three qtrs of 2018, Consumer spending the entire year 2016, Obama's last 13.0 trillion. So let's see how your math is, Consumer spending up over a trillion dollars through 9 months of 2018 vs. the entire last year of Obama 2016?

Table 1.1.5. Gross Domestic Product
[Billions of dollars] Seasonally adjusted at annual rates
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: December 21, 2018 - Next Release Date January 30, 2019

Line 2016 2017 2018
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q1 Q2 Q3
1 Gross domestic product 18409.1 18640.7 18799.6 18979.2 19162.6 19359.1 19588.1 19831.8 20041 20411.9 20658.2
2 Personal consumption expenditures 12526.5 12706.5 12845.2 12989.4 13114.1 13233.2 13359.1 13579.2 13679.6 13875.6 14050.5
3 Goods 3932.2 3990.3 4013.9 4048.8 4090.4 4117.1 4166 4250.9 4267.7 4329.5 4371.3
4 Durable goods 1323.7 1336.3 1357.7 1368.7 1375.6 1393.4 1411.2 1445.7 1434.5 1458.7 1468.5
5 Nondurable goods 2608.5 2654 2656.3 2680.1 2714.8 2723.7 2754.8 2805.2 2833.2 2870.8 2902.8
6 Services 8594.3 8716.2 8831.2 8940.6 9023.7 9116.1 9193.1 9328.3 9411.9 9546.1 9679.1
7 Gross private domestic investment 3142.1 3152.2 3157.7 3227.6 3278.6 3337.9 3413.9 3441.4 3543.8 3579.5 3710.7
8 Fixed investment 3094.1 3127.1 3157.2 3185.4 3270.6 3320.8 3358.5 3420 3507.4 3589.9 3618
9 Nonresidential 2409.8 2435.6 2458.4 2464.7 2525.2 2576.7 2607 2642.6 2720.3 2791.4 2819.7
10 Structures 531.2 539.7 555.1 556.7 577.5 588.3 585.3 590.6 614.9 644.1 643.3
11 Equipment 1092.8 1091.4 1090.2 1089.3 1112.3 1137.4 1162.8 1189.1 1212.6 1228.8 1243
12 Intellectual property products 785.8 804.5 813.2 818.7 835.4 850.9 858.9 862.9 892.7 918.6 933.4
13 Residential 684.2 691.5 698.8 720.8 745.5 744.1 751.5 777.4 787.2 798.5 798.3
14 Change in private inventories 48 25.1 0.5 42.1 8 17.1 55.4 21.5 36.3 -10.4 92.7
15 Net exports of goods and services -522.2 -496.2 -503.7 -560.2 -576.6 -571.9 -557.3 -607.9 -639.2 -549.8 -653.5
16 Exports 2165.6 2206.6 2252.5 2245.6 2294.1 2316.3 2358.3 2432 2477.4 2568.7 2538.6
17 Goods 1402.3 1434.1 1469.4 1464.9 1497.3 1510.8 1536.7 1598.8 1628.1 1706.4 1668.6
18 Services 763.3 772.5 783.2 780.7 796.9 805.4 821.6 833.2 849.3 862.4 870
19 Imports 2687.8 2702.7 2756.3 2805.8 2870.7 2888.2 2915.5 3039.9 3116.6 3118.5 3192.1
20 Goods 2177.7 2191.7 2236.1 2278.4 2336.1 2344.6 2358.9 2474.6 2537.1 2536.5 2602.4
21 Services 510.2 511 520.2 527.3 534.6 543.6 556.7 565.3 579.4 582 589.7
22 Government consumption expenditures and gross investment 3262.7 3278.2 3300.5 3322.4 3346.4 3360 3372.3 3419.1 3456.8 3506.6 3550.5
23 Federal 1223.5 1225.4 1235.9 1244.1 1252.4 1264 1263.8 1280.6 1294.8 1313 1329.5
24 National defense 724.8 722.4 730.6 731.5 734.9 746.7 743.1 750.7 759 772.6 784.3
25 Nondefense 498.7 502.9 505.3 512.7 517.5 517.3 520.7 529.8 535.8 540.4 545.2
26 State and local 2039.2 2052.9 2064.7 2078.3 2093.9 2096 2108.5 2138.5 2162 2193.5 2221

 

[Conservative]

Too bad that half of Trumps increased growth comes from increased Govt. spending and even that is waning. His tax cuts for the wealthy have ballooned the deficit and spurred only a mediocre growth spurt that is already petering out. What a bust.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/government-and-military-spending-fuel-u-s-growth-1540459800

Post 78 makes this post of yours a lie and yet you still cannot admit when wrong. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty? Such passion and so easily manipulated by the left. Your posts are a ringing endorsement of how easy it is for the left to make people look foolish. Why is that? What benefit are you getting out of liberal economic policies?

 

[Myview]

Inspections into what? What exactly has Trump done to hurt you, your family or the country? Republicans gave Obama less than he wanted thus reducing the deficit and the Fed has increased interest rates four times in the last two years giving us the deficit we had for 2018, Trump's first budget year. Stop buying what you are told and explain your position. The 24/7 anti Trump rhetoric diverts from the actual Trump results. Waiting for the results that truly bother you?

Honorable, respectful Conservative. Obama is no longer the President. I don't think any administration has been a paragon of virtue regards the deficit. I linked you with evidence regarding the deficit increase under Trump. Apparently you didn't read it because you blame the current and projected deficit on the Feds interest rate adjustments completely ignoring the spending and tax cut enacted under Trump. Numerous investigations are on going. Those investigations will be multiplied when the Democratic Majority House gets rolling. Of note will be legislation and efforts by the House Ways And Means Committee to obtain Trumps tax returns. That will at least put Republicans in the Senate and House on record as to why they would deny to pass a bill asking for his tax returns for the last 10 years. It will also put the WH on record as to why they will fight a subpoena from Ways And Means. I think the majority of Americans would like to know what Trumps tax returns will reveal. My family and I are fine. Hope yours is as well. My core beliefs tell me how to think. It is insulting to tell anyone, especially a stranger to stop believing what they are told. I assume almost all people who participate on this forum get their information from a wide range of sources no matter the affiliation. Our political stance is determined by a set of base values. We seek out the sources of information that reinforces our core beliefs. I think this is true of all people who treat politics as a serious subject. 24/7 anti Trump rhetoric is a fairly new term coined by frustrated Conservatives. I will give you that there is bias, and news organizations make errors. They always have since news first began. I have lived through 12 Presidents so far. Trump has been the only one with this level of animosity towards the media with the possible exception of Nixon. I will give you that Jill Abramson said her former newspaper was biased. Jimmy Carter said the press was too hard on Trump. Trump brings a lot of it on himself with the sheer volume of tweets, utterances, behavior, and actions. The implication of bias is that it is unfair, not that it isn't true. As far as my core beliefs, I think that income inequality is not sustainable. So much of the policy we enact goes to help corporations and the wealthy. Corporations will always be wealthy; the wealthy will always be wealthy. We must do more to balance the equation. Policy must be directed at the lower 75% of the population and not so consistently favor large corporations and wealthy individuals. I feel that if things are allowed to progress in the direction we are now going a disaster awaits us in the breakdown of society some time in the future. Business is the engine that creates jobs and innovation and it must be sustained to do that. Individuals and families in the bottom 75% will not be satisfied with the bones and crumbs tossed to them by a government that doesn't care about them.

 

[Taylor]

Well let's make it interesting and count how many times "radical leftist", "TDS", and "libtard" is used.

You get that a lot, do you?

 

[ElChupacabra]

You get that a lot, do you?

Nope, but do see it used often when some folks can't debate a topic and resort to ad hominem attacks.

 

[Puigb]

Please tell me who taught you that you were entitled to someone else's money? Guess personal responsibility doesn't resonate in the liberal world nor do the actual economic results currently being generated by This President. You spend way too much demonizing the president and buying what you are told that actual reality doesn't exist in your world

you lost the election. Who cares what you think.

 

[Conservative]

Honorable, respectful Conservative. Obama is no longer the President. I don't think any administration has been a paragon of virtue regards the deficit. I linked you with evidence regarding the deficit increase under Trump. Apparently you didn't read it because you blame the current and projected deficit on the Feds interest rate adjustments completely ignoring the spending and tax cut enacted under Trump. Numerous investigations are on going. Those investigations will be multiplied when the Democratic Majority House gets rolling. Of note will be legislation and efforts by the House Ways And Means Committee to obtain Trumps tax returns. That will at least put Republicans in the Senate and House on record as to why they would deny to pass a bill asking for his tax returns for the last 10 years. It will also put the WH on record as to why they will fight a subpoena from Ways And Means. I think the majority of Americans would like to know what Trumps tax returns will reveal. My family and I are fine. Hope yours is as well. My core beliefs tell me how to think. It is insulting to tell anyone, especially a stranger to stop believing what they are told. I assume almost all people who participate on this forum get their information from a wide range of sources no matter the affiliation. Our political stance is determined by a set of base values. We seek out the sources of information that reinforces our core beliefs. I think this is true of all people who treat politics as a serious subject. 24/7 anti Trump rhetoric is a fairly new term coined by frustrated Conservatives. I will give you that there is bias, and news organizations make errors. They always have since news first began. I have lived through 12 Presidents so far. Trump has been the only one with this level of animosity towards the media with the possible exception of Nixon. I will give you that Jill Abramson said her former newspaper was biased. Jimmy Carter said the press was too hard on Trump. Trump brings a lot of it on himself with the sheer volume of tweets, utterances, behavior, and actions. The implication of bias is that it is unfair, not that it isn't true. As far as my core beliefs, I think that income inequality is not sustainable. So much of the policy we enact goes to help corporations and the wealthy. Corporations will always be wealthy; the wealthy will always be wealthy. We must do more to balance the equation. Policy must be directed at the lower 75% of the population and not so consistently favor large corporations and wealthy individuals. I feel that if things are allowed to progress in the direction we are now going a disaster awaits us in the breakdown of society some time in the future. Business is the engine that creates jobs and innovation and it must be sustained to do that. Individuals and families in the bottom 75% will not be satisfied with the bones and crumbs tossed to them by a government that doesn't care about them.

Look, I have addressed the deficit by explaining what caused it, you ignored it. I addressed the economic activity by posting the official verifiable numbers, you ignore it. Investigation after investigation that has affected you and your family how?

For some reason you want to accept the gloom and doom presented by the media and ignore the facts. The Fed made predictions under Obama too and none were correct but now all of a sudden they are. I am quite aware that Obama in no longer President just like I am well aware that none of the results generated the last two years were his and his Administration although not a complete disaster was representative of a resume that showed incompetence as do the results

Tell me how Trump's tax returns are relevant. Tell us how anything that happened prior to becoming President are relevant? Tell me how some rich person or corporation keeping more of what they earn hurts you, your family or the country? Why can't you and others focus on results? Why can't you and others stop blaming others for poor choices and consequences? How does the Democrat Majority make things better for the American people by investigation and bringing up articles of Impeachment?

The one accurate statement you have made about the govt. throwing bones to the people is accurate which is why I voted for Trump. Allowing people to keep more of what they earn takes power away from govt. Putting power back into the states takes power away from the govt. States have term limits, the federal govt. doesn't except for the President. You will have an opportunity to get rid of Trump in 2020, why not work to that end instead of working to investigate and get rid of him now? the results don't justify that and results are verifiable at bea.gov, bls.gov, treasury.org.

 

[Conservative]

Nope, but do see it used often when some folks can't debate a topic and resort to ad hominem attacks.

I will remind you that facts win debates not personal opinions, facts win court cases not personal opinion. Haven't seen a lot of facts coming from you but a lot of opinions. I am waiting for an explanation as to what the Democratic Agenda is going to promote other than massive central govt. growth, anti wealth creation, investigation after investigation, and more class envy, jealousy and warfare.

 

[Conservative]

you lost the election. Who cares what you think.

You lost the election in 2010-2012 and that was ignored just like the official actual results are being ignored now. The Republicans gained seats in the Senate and more Democrats ran away from Obama and Pelosi winning on a more positive message and not simply anti Trump.

 

[cabse5]

Please tell me who taught you that you were entitled to someone else's money? Guess personal responsibility doesn't resonate in the liberal world nor do the actual economic results currently being generated by This President. You spend way too much demonizing the president and buying what you are told that actual reality doesn't exist in your world

SIAP. You know it's progressive political morality to ensure everyone has enough money and those who have too much money can contribute to those who don't have enough money.

Question being: when is it too much money? For example, if a climate change slush fund was comprised of tax monies levied against those who violate CO2 pollution policies, would that slush fund be too much money? For example, will progressives in France demand the climate change taxes collected be evenly distributed to everyone in need?

Nevermind, I have my answer. The too much money will be distributed to other public progressive morality causes, first. Those causes may allow the individual to 'taste' the excess.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I will remind you that facts win debates not personal opinions, facts win court cases not personal opinion. Haven't seen a lot of facts coming from you but a lot of opinions. I am waiting for an explanation as to what the Democratic Agenda is going to promote other than massive central govt. growth, anti wealth creation, investigation after investigation, and more class envy, jealousy and warfare.

Facts and context. Where there are facts to present I've presented them in the form of links to data or articles citing reports. In areas where the topic is more conceptual then I'll opine because there may not be hard data and only supposition. Data is another thing that requires context as well; coming from a data analysis background I can tell you people often misrepresent data by leaving out the context. I'm not sure what will actually materialize from the Democrat rhetoric; they may have control of the House but that will only serve as a counterbalance to the Senate and the White House agendas.

The Democrats don't hold exclusivity on investigations lest we go back to all of the Republican investigations. Now this whole "class envy/jealousy" piece; what specific policy or agenda are you referring to? Do you mean literal warfare or class warfare?

 

[Conservative]

Facts and context. Where there are facts to present I've presented them in the form of links to data or articles citing reports. In areas where the topic is more conceptual then I'll opine because there may not be hard data and only supposition. Data is another thing that requires context as well; coming from a data analysis background I can tell you people often misrepresent data by leaving out the context. I'm not sure what will actually materialize from the Democrat rhetoric; they may have control of the House but that will only serve as a counterbalance to the Senate and the White House agendas.

The Democrats don't hold exclusivity on investigations lest we go back to all of the Republican investigations. Now this whole "class envy/jealousy" piece; what specific policy or agenda are you referring to? Do you mean literal warfare or class warfare?

Data and articles don't trump the official data from the sources I have listed and yes class envy, jealousy, and warfare by demonizing the rich and claiming that tax cuts solely benefited the rich. The problems with investigations is timing, what purpose does it serve to investigate the past 10 years of Trump's financials all prior to taking the WH? What purpose does it serve calling for impeachment without even an indictment? What Republican investigations were generated against Obama that happened before Obama took the WH? Benghazi?? An Ambassador was killed! Fast and Furious? IRS scandal and attacks against conservative groups? Hillary Clinton's private server having classified documents in it?

 

[Conservative]

Facts and context. Where there are facts to present I've presented them in the form of links to data or articles citing reports. In areas where the topic is more conceptual then I'll opine because there may not be hard data and only supposition. Data is another thing that requires context as well; coming from a data analysis background I can tell you people often misrepresent data by leaving out the context. I'm not sure what will actually materialize from the Democrat rhetoric; they may have control of the House but that will only serve as a counterbalance to the Senate and the White House agendas.

The Democrats don't hold exclusivity on investigations lest we go back to all of the Republican investigations. Now this whole "class envy/jealousy" piece; what specific policy or agenda are you referring to? Do you mean literal warfare or class warfare?

Do you think this kind of rhetoric from a Congressional Representative is helpful?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-call-for-impeachment-on-first-day-of-new-congress

Speaking to a crowd of supporters Thursday night, the Michigan Democrat and one of the first Muslim women elected to Congress said of Trump: "People love you and you win. And when your son looks at you and says, 'Momma, look you won. Bullies don't win.' And I said, 'Baby, they don't, because we’re gonna go in there and we’re gonna impeach the mother***er.'”

 

[cabse5]

Data and articles don't trump the official data from the sources I have listed and yes class envy, jealousy, and warfare by demonizing the rich and claiming that tax cuts solely benefited the rich. The problems with investigations is timing, what purpose does it serve to investigate the past 10 years of Trump's financials all prior to taking the WH? What purpose does it serve calling for impeachment without even an indictment? What Republican investigations were generated against Obama that happened before Obama took the WH? Benghazi?? An Ambassador was killed! Fast and Furious? IRS scandal and attacks against conservative groups? Hillary Clinton's private server having classified documents in it?

Dems want Trump's financials for the last 10 years to 'prove' Russia aided Trump in his financial shortcomings and to 'prove' Trump had an incentive to collude with the Russians in the 2016.
A bonus to seeing Trump's last 10 years of financials would be to 'prove' Trump is lying about his wealth.

Hey, Mueller probably already received that tax info from Cohen. Probably why Mueller investigated Cohen in the first place. If there's any fire there, Mueller will attack.

 

[Conservative]

Dems want Trump's financials for the last 10 years to 'prove' Russia aided Trump in his financial shortcomings and to 'prove' Trump had an incentive to collude with the Russians in the 2016.
A bonus to seeing Trump's last 10 years of financials would be to 'prove' Trump is lying about his wealth.

Hey, Mueller probably already received that tax info from Cohen. Probably why Mueller investigated Cohen in the first place. If there's any fire there, Mueller will attack.

Which to me, my family, and the country means absolutely nothing. He is President of the United States and what he does in the office is all that matters. After he is out of office then investigate but judge him on performance in office NOW.

We have an election in 2 years and all the Democrats want to do is investigate and remove Trump who has done absolutely nothing that I can see wrong in the WH that has hurt this country and in fact the economic results are outstanding and that is what should matter to people, IMO

 

[cabse5]

Which to me, my family, and the country means absolutely nothing. He is President of the United States and what he does in the office is all that matters. After he is out of office then investigate but judge him on performance in office NOW.

We have an election in 2 years and all the Democrats want to do is investigate and remove Trump who has done absolutely nothing that I can see wrong in the WH that has hurt this country and in fact the economic results are outstanding and that is what should matter to people, IMO

They can't complain about the good economy (forget about China's for now). They can't complain about the lowest unemployment levels. They are scratching where it itches.

EDIT: They are scratching to make sure Trump's presidency is ineffectual. In that regard, dems don't care about the country. I don't think founders ever envisioned that.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Data and articles don't trump the official data from the sources I have listed and yes class envy, jealousy, and warfare by demonizing the rich and claiming that tax cuts solely benefited the rich.

Demonizing the rich isn't a position I agree with either; again, because it is a generalization that doesn't benefit anyone. How ever keeping checks and balances between the wealthy and their political reach is something that should be monitored so government stays true to representing the people and not just those with the financial means to exercise their agendas.

The problems with investigations is timing, what purpose does it serve to investigate the past 10 years of Trump's financials all prior to taking the WH?

This would have been a non-issue if he had just released his tax returns like many other presidents have; Gerald Ford was the last one who didn't. I think this is a risky move by the Democrats unless they're looking for something specific. If it's political theater it will likely backfire.

What purpose does it serve calling for impeachment without even an indictment? What Republican investigations were generated against Obama that happened before Obama took the WH? Benghazi?? An Ambassador was killed! Fast and Furious? IRS scandal and attacks against conservative groups? Hillary Clinton's private server having classified documents in it?

The Democrats have to tread lightly regarding talks of impeachment; doing so justifies the idea that this is all politically motivated. There were allegations of Russian involvement in the 2016 election which led to the investigation. Are you suggesting that something of that magnitude should be ignored?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Do you think this kind of rhetoric from a Congressional Representative is helpful?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-call-for-impeachment-on-first-day-of-new-congress

No, I don't. I also don't take impeachment lightly, which is why I've stated numerous times that only if the investigation yields conclusive proof there impeachable offenses should this be considered an option.

 

[Conservative]

They can't complain about the good economy (forget about China's for now). They can't complain about the lowest unemployment levels. They are scratching where it itches.

EDIT: They are scratching to make sure Trump's presidency is ineffectual. In that regard, dems don't care about the country. I don't think founders ever envisioned that.

You will never hear a radical leftist ever mention economic numbers or actual results, it is always about feelings and personality

 

[Conservative]

Demonizing the rich isn't a position I agree with either; again, because it is a generalization that doesn't benefit anyone. How ever keeping checks and balances between the wealthy and their political reach is something that should be monitored so government stays true to representing the people and not just those with the financial means to exercise their agendas.




This would have been a non-issue if he had just released his tax returns like many other presidents have; Gerald Ford was the last one who didn't. I think this is a risky move by the Democrats unless they're looking for something specific. If it's political theater it will likely backfire.



The Democrats have to tread lightly regarding talks of impeachment; doing so justifies the idea that this is all politically motivated. There were allegations of Russian involvement in the 2016 election which led to the investigation. Are you suggesting that something of that magnitude should be ignored?

His tax returns weren't released and he was elected, why is this an issue now? As for the so called Russian meddling to me it is a none issue since no voting machines were hacked and the sole purpose was to create chaos which they accomplished. The belief that the American people are too stupid and easily swayed by Russian propaganda is nothing more than leftwing arrogance. Rhetoric never changed my vote nor theirs so what is the issue?

 

[ElChupacabra]

His tax returns weren't released and he was elected, why is this an issue now?

You'll have to ask the Democrats; I'm not sure what specifically they're looking for. It's likely the Mueller investigation already has access, so I don't think it's that.

As for the so called Russian meddling to me it is a none issue since no voting machines were hacked and the sole purpose was to create chaos which they accomplished. The belief that the American people are too stupid and easily swayed by Russian propaganda is nothing more than leftwing arrogance. Rhetoric never changed my vote nor theirs so what is the issue?

To you it's a non-issue, but there's an ongoing investigation that feels otherwise. I'm curious to see what ultimately gets revealed. Your opinion may be that rhetoric doesn't matter, but if it didn't candidates wouldn't use it. As for propaganda, one doesn't have to be stupid to be swayed by it; those behind it know their target audience and how to manipulate them effectively.

 

[Conservative]

You'll have to ask the Democrats; I'm not sure what specifically they're looking for. It's likely the Mueller investigation already has access, so I don't think it's that.




To you it's a non-issue, but there's an ongoing investigation that feels otherwise. I'm curious to see what ultimately gets revealed. Your opinion may be that rhetoric doesn't matter, but if it didn't candidates wouldn't use it. As for propaganda, one doesn't have to be stupid to be swayed by it; those behind it know their target audience and how to manipulate them effectively.

Candidates always use rhetoric and propaganda to win elections, rhetoric means absolutely nothing to me as results matter. What results has Trump generated that warrent this kind of hatred and investigations since taking office? Anything prior to taking office are irrelevant since the election is over. Bill Clinton lied under oath while in the Oval Office, can anyone prove that Trump has done anything illegal since taking office?

 

[cabse5]

You will never hear a radical leftist ever mention economic numbers or actual results, it is always about feelings and personality

Meh. It's ideology. Sometimes, caring about feelings isn't so bad. Feelings are, IMO, better to be cared about than straight capitalism, for example. Straight capitalism gave us the gangsters. Straight capitalism gave us child workers.
Straight capitalism gives us demand for undocumented workers. Straight capitalism (and globalism) gives us treaties that not beneficial to the US.