So did Biden did it?

[Good4Nothin]

If Trump cared so much about Ukrainian corruption, why just the focus on half baked conspiracy theories that BENEFIT himself. Sorry, America is not buying the GOP story of Trump the corruption fighter. He broke the law, and now will be impeached. I find it odd all those years ago that the GOP found that lying about a BJ impeachable, but give Trump a pass on asking for foreign help in an election by using extortion. When the GOP in the Senate give him a pass, there will be hell to pay at the polls.

He did not explicitly ask for help in an election.

 

[dairyair]

He did not explicitly ask for help in an election.

So tRUMP merely implied wanting help. And was only pretending to hold up the military aid. But the military aid was actually being held up by tRUMP.

 

[Parrish]

Its working just fine so far. Yesterday was a disaster for the Dems.

No, it ain't working. The disaster is that the GOP's inability to mount a defense for his guilt and excuses for their culpability in his presidency.

 

[yankintx]

He did not explicitly ask for help in an election.

He asked the Ukranians to investigate the Bidens, one of whom is running for public office, Trump got caught committing extortion. Lock him up !!

 

[TheRepublican]

huh? explain what did Alzheimer joe mean by you have six hours or you are not going to get the money?

 

[BrotherFease]

What indicates that H. Biden was facing charges?
Iirc, Shokin was fired for *NOT* investigating events at Burisma — events which occurred before H. Biden even came on board.

It's one of the oddest arguments I have ever seen coming out of Trumpists. They are upset that Biden wanted Ukraine to investigate his son's company.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

I am still confused did the vice president “Joe Biden” held aid and got his son off? He was on a hot microphone well, I’m not going to give you the money unless you fired the prosecutor. Well, sob they was fired! Or was that his decoy on tape? I would like to know because the big scandal is out of in the public so stop playing like there’s nothing! You can cover it camouflage the Ukraine situation as this president did something wrong by asking information, but wait a minute, wasn’t Ukraine is working on an investigation into Biden also? Which is bogus you just want a walk to the finish line because you people miss the power. Honestly, I would like to get to the bottom of this. You cognize what is hilarious and I really desire to question the crap out of the democratic nominee because she holds a lazy eye toward her own party. She published an article “End of the Washington corruption” but, when it’s a fellow democrat she obviously developed a lazy eye on a corruption typical democrat, But, if it has Trump then she has 20/20 vision. If you people think that impeaching the president to continue this under wraps then we are not a country anymore. We are protecting the actual question that we had in the white house for eight years and in fact I could care less about the imagery of the 44th presidency legacy Because the 44th president chose this grease ball for his vice president. I would honestly like to know.

First, take literacy courses.

Second, find better sources of information. You’re completely lost.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

It's one of the oddest arguments I have ever seen coming out of Trumpists. They are upset that Biden wanted Ukraine to investigate his son's company.

It don't make no sense.
Nor does it make sense that replacing a prosecutor somehow ends a case.

It seems that's all that they have to work with.

 

[Irwin Corey]

I am still confused did the vice president “Joe Biden” held aid and got his son off?

No.

wasn’t Ukraine is working on an investigation into Biden also?

No. (If you have information that they were please post a link.)

If you people think that impeaching the president to continue this under wraps then we are not a country anymore.

You really could benefit from a class in basic writing skills; couldn't we all? But, to the point I think you're trying to make, nobody's trying to impeach this president "under wraps". But in studying the history and mechanics of the impeach process I think I've learned (only half done with this very good book: "To End a Presidency" Tribe/Matz) it IS congress's duty to impeach a president that has acted in ways contrary to his oath of office. IT, by nature is a very POLITICAL process and the offense doesn't necessarily need to be criminal.

"What, then, is an impeachable offense?" Gerald R. Ford, R-Mich., asked rhetorically in 1970, when as House minority leader he sought the impeachment of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas. Ford replied with a stark answer that has become famous: "The only honest answer is that an impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history."

Nothing, pertinent, that was disclosed in the fact gathering private hearings isn't being disclosed in the public hearings. "Pertinent" is an important word, the private hearings are held to distill out the relevant facts that are being brought forward in the public hearings.

We do "have a country" and impeachment is an important part of keeping it. Benjamin Franklin, when arguing in favor of impeachment, pointed out that it is the civilized way to deal with finding out if our leaders disgraced their office, the alternative would be how the Romans and Greeks handled it (assassination).

Your composition makes a reply very difficult. BUT, IF VP Joe Biden or his son did anything wrong then we have a very complicit and willing Attorney General that should be addressing that issue.

(IF you're an American you really should get better acquainted with our language.)

 

[Irwin Corey]

So why doesn't POTUS release documents and allow testimony from those who might exculpate him?

I'm not sure why he doesn't release documents. But, apparently, nobody in his administration is willing to go to jail for him by committing perjury in testifying before Congress.

 

[element94]

Yeah, the thread title says it all about the mentality, and thought that went into this. Moving on.