Should the KKK Confederate mural on Stone Mountain, Georgia be destroyed?

[apdst]

Show me the evidence we are anything close to this, or that Progressives/Liberals advocate Totalitarianism

Like I said: change my mind.

 

[Cramer]

Your post ^^just shows that the majority of blacks will vote for anyone with a (D) after their name regardless of their actual views.

Why is that? Why would a black person vote for an active racist?

 

[trixare4kids]

I voted NO because I don't think history should be sanitized, but left as a reminder of how far we've come as a society.

 

[mike2810]

No. It is part of history. It could be a great place to teach about our tragic past and why we don't accept it today.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Were you lost? Or, are you lying? I think you're lying.

Actually, historically, the area that makes up the current parish was pro-union. You'll find very, very few graves of Confederate veterans in my parish.

But, rock your ignorance, lies, whatever.

History says otherwise. Grant Parish (named in honor of newly elected Republican president U.S. Grant) was not created until after the Civil War. During the war, that area was in Rapides Parish....

Rapides Parish History: Section III The Civil War 1861-1865

 

[Cramer]

Oh, I know what I learned and what I didn't. You don't tell me what I heard. You don't know me. You didn't grow up around me, nor in my community. You can't speak for me.

I am not telling you to believe anything.
I am challenging your views. It is how we grow as people. We should always challenge ourselves to seek more information, so we can understand the world around us.

Why not read read about the group i mentioned, and from an unbiased source. Knowledge is a good thing. (please understand I am not saying you're a dumb southern redneck. I am simply challenging your awareness of the subject at hand).

Please feel free to challenge my views... I do prefer empirical evidence, vs opinion.

 

[Cramer]

Like I said: change my mind.

Clearly, I, nor do Democrats, liberals, progressives, moderates, centrists....advocate Totalitarianism, as you have claimed.

Please cite examples, if you believe otherwise.

 

[trixare4kids]

No. It is part of history. It could be a great place to teach about our tragic past and why we don't accept it today.

Precisely.
It's not about HONORING or MEMORIALIZING evil or racism as the left tries to have us believe.

 

[Waddy]

Covering up history also diminishes history. It's far better to be reminded of what we're trying to put behind us than to try and erase any trace of it. Monuments aren't always a celebration, sometimes they are useful reminders of our darker side, and can serve to guide us to a more enlightened future. Better to acknowledge what went before than to pretend it didn't happen. Monuments like Stone Mountain keep our history right in front of us. Erasing all signs of our tortured past erases that history in the public mind as well. Out of sight, out of mind.

 

[mike2810]

Precisely.
It's not about HONORING or MEMORIALIZING evil or racism as the left tries to have us believe.

Being in my late 60's, it is interesting how people are so sensitive to things now days. imo, we are going overboard on trying to be "politically correct". Sorry, but the US had a civil war. News flash, the South lost. Sorry, that back 40-60 years ago "black face" was used in certain social settings. News Flash: It is not acceptable TODAY. Sorry, that we have some sport teams that have Native American references. News Flash: Have yet to see the teams use the logo in a derogatory way.

Some people just need to toughen up. Treat people with respect and one should expect it to be returned. MLK , stated it well.

 

[Fletch]

Yes, you're demanding we continue to glorify southern traitors, I assume because you ideologically sympathize with them. Show me where it's required for a nation to keep all statues and monuments until the end of time. Change happens, we re-evaluate our priorities. Get over it.
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Im not 'demanding anything' and I dont 'ideologically sympathize' with them, nor am I 'requiring' anything of anyone. Thats just you demonstrating that you lack the ability to carry on an intelligent, honest discussion with anyone who doesnt share your opinions.

 

[trixare4kids]

Being in my late 60's, it is interesting how people are so sensitive to things now days. imo, we are going overboard on trying to be "politically correct". Sorry, but the US had a civil war. News flash, the South lost. Sorry, that back 40-60 years ago "black face" was used in certain social settings. News Flash: It is not acceptable TODAY. Sorry, that we have some sport teams that have Native American references. News Flash: Have yet to see the teams use the logo in a derogatory way.

Some people just need to toughen up. Treat people with respect and one should expect it to be returned. MLK , stated it well.

This is all just another reminder to me as to why an outsider, someone like DJT, was elected; political correctness run amok
It's the far leftists, the illiberals who are now running the Democratic Party. Liberals left the party years ago... even they can't stand their :bs.

 

[lurchadams]

Do you have a point? Or, do you accept the fact that you can't break my argument?

When you come up with an actual argument rather than just regurgitating Rush Limbaugh taglines, let me know and I'll try to break it.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

So just to make sure I'm following the retarded logic you two are spewing, any country that has ever removed any kind of statue, mural or carving is basically the Taliban.

Germans removing Hitler statues after the war? Taliban
Cambodia removing statues of Polpot? Taliban
Eastern European countries removing Stalin and Lenin statues from public squares? Taliban

There is no requirement to keep every statue and monument ever made in place until the end of time. All statues will be eventually replaced with new ones, and when it comes to traitors to the US that fought to enslave human beings, sooner is better than later.

Your comparisons to the Taliban are lazy and offensive to veterans that have actually faced the Taliban and seen their horrors first hand.

Auschwitz is still there. Grant it, that Auschwitz is not a statue, but one could look at it as representing Hitler. But its existence is a power preservation of what the holocaust was and a lesson to why it was wrong. Certainly no one is accusing Germany of glorify or honoring Hitler and its a World Heritage Site.

The site should be turned into a lesson of the horrors of the Confederate Union.

 

[ecofarm]

They didn't fight to enslave humans. Since you don't have a basic grasp of history, your vote on the issue is null.

What a lie. States wrote, in their declarations of secession, that it was to preserve slavery.

You're gaslighting the Civil War.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

So stop.

I never started. Why do you support the KKK?

 

[Tanngrisnir]

I wonder if liberals/democrats/progressives will continue to defend people like Robert Byrd and Ralph Northam for the racist views....

Robert Byrd recanted his former views and spent his career fighting against them.

Which liberals are supporting Northham?

 

[apdst]

When you come up with an actual argument rather than just regurgitating Rush Limbaugh taglines, let me know and I'll try to break it.

Yeah, I knew you couldn't you never do. Then you sling insults as you run away.

 

[ChezC3]

I never started. Why do you support the KKK?

:roll:

Didn't know I did...

...lot of Catholics in the KKK, eh?

good god...

:lol:

 

[ecofarm]

You lost any credibility or presumption of sanity you might have had when you said that all the swastikas and Hitler statues should be left up until the end of time as a mark of shame for the German people. 9th level craziness there bud.

Though even crazier than that was your support for permanent Pelosi statues. Yuck!

Kinda makes ya wonder what he keeps around the house.

 

[ecofarm]

I wonder if liberals/democrats/progressives will continue to defend people like Robert Byrd and Ralph Northam for the racist views....

Completely different cases. Your post is either laughingly ignorant or a supremely scummy lie.

In fact, Byrd's life proves beyond any doubt that Northam is lying. We know what people do when they turn around.

 

[apdst]

Clearly, I, nor do Democrats, liberals, progressives, moderates, centrists....advocate Totalitarianism, as you have claimed.

Please cite examples, if you believe otherwise.

The laws they want to pass say different:

Medicare for all, that would abolish private insurance.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/31/kamala-harris-medicare-for-all-1130970

Gun bans and confiscation.

https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/890179/16

Congressman proposes using nuclear weapons on citizens who resist gun law.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw0-vrMXMTqMOHry-DdB8Noa&ust=1549309159713259

 

[uptower]

Till it is gone it needs a plaque or something: Here's the effigy of Jefferson Davis, traitor to the nation and promoter of slavery.

 

[apdst]

History says otherwise. Grant Parish (named in honor of newly elected Republican president U.S. Grant) was not created until after the Civil War. During the war, that area was in Rapides Parish....

Rapides Parish History: Section III The Civil War 1861-1865

Yeah, no ****...lol

That's why I said, "the area that makes up the current parish".

Bagdad is spelled without an "H", btw.

 

[iguanaman]

I voted NO because I don't think history should be sanitized, but left as a reminder of how far we've come as a society.

So you think White supremacist rallies at the site are an indcation of our progress? Sometimes we need to make a real statement to indicate we have changed and a few sticks of dynamite will do the trick there. It really is an ugly carving job too. A few pictures in a book will take care of the "history".