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Sexual Harassment In Hollywood

Is This Sexual Harassment?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • No

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 33.3%

  • Total voters
    9
Did you or did you not say you were harassed?

Being repeatedly propositioned, repeatedly asking for sex acts, day after day, month after month, by a person who has the power to fire you or limit your opportunities within the company/organization is the very definition of sexual harassment. If she had also been groped, touched inappropriately, etc., then the person doing so would be guilty of both sexual harassment and sexual assault. She could have pressed criminal charges.

Now do us a favor and stop acting as if "boys will be boys" and "girls should STFU and enjoy it" is what you really, honestly believe.
 
Being repeatedly propositioned, repeatedly asking for sex acts, day after day, month after month, by a person who has the power to fire you or limit your opportunities within the company/organization is the very definition of sexual harassment. If she had also been groped, touched inappropriately, etc., then the person doing so would be guilty of both sexual harassment and sexual assault. She could have pressed criminal charges.

Now do us a favor and stop acting as if "boys will be boys" and "girls should STFU and enjoy it" is what you really, honestly believe.

How about the girls grow up and act like women for change. There are very few women left any more, most females I come across are just whiney bitchy little girls. Pathetic. Real women take crap from NO-ONE.
 
WTF is wrong with you? You made a poll, and followed up by repeatedly following those who didn't respond the way you want by demanding why they didn't vote in it? I didn't vote in the damned thing either. Move. On.

He'd rather harass.
 
Being repeatedly propositioned, repeatedly asking for sex acts, day after day, month after month, by a person who has the power to fire you or limit your opportunities within the company/organization is the very definition of sexual harassment. If she had also been groped, touched inappropriately, etc., then the person doing so would be guilty of both sexual harassment and sexual assault. She could have pressed criminal charges.

Now do us a favor and stop acting as if "boys will be boys" and "girls should STFU and enjoy it" is what you really, honestly believe.

How is it that in 2017, people still don't know this?

For the record, he did touch me. But, I don't want to get into how he touched me and when and how often because it ****ing makes me sick to my stomach.

Still. 20+ years later.

None of those things matter because what my boss did is TEXTBOOK SEXUAL HARASSMENT, the kind you have to learn about in those annual sexual harassment trainings we all have to go to now because some humans just can't seem to figure out that work is not the place to try to get laid by your employees or co-workers.
 
Well, this has been the flavor of the last month so I wanted to ask in a poll if the following is sexual harassment. How far are we going to take this?

OK. Let's first talk about the casting couch. It is fairly easy to argue that if you visit the casting couch and you are asked to do certain things in exchange for being casted in a movie, that that could possibly catapult your career into stardom, fame and money. And, of course, the more slimy people could say that if you became a star as a result then, maybe, it was worth the price you paid. On the other hand, maybe you paid the price but didn't get casted in the movie at all and basically, um, um, got screwed. Or, maybe you did get the part but the movie was a bomb and then I guess you could say that your "investment" did not pay off. Let's say that a slimy person could argue that this was sort of like prostitution, you sell yourself and get something in return for your "time" and that this is not really sexual harassment at all but a "professional business arrangement, agreed to by both parties". OK, I don't want to really start a debate on this so I'll concede that this was sexual harassment.

Now that I've laid out my foundation, so to speak, I'm getting into the crux of my poll question. Let's say that there actually was not a casting couch at all in my poll question example but you (let's say you are a female for the sake of argument) read for a part in a movie that involved nudity. Maybe we can even say that you are Sharon Stone reading for the lead in the movie "Basic Instinct". If I remember correctly, Sharon Stone was not really much of a household name before the movie but catapulted to stardom, fame, and money afterwards. Is it sexual harassment if a movie calls for nudity (or a quick flash) and the reason you did it was because you felt pressured with the need to work and wanted to "become a star"? Can it be argued that just the fact that a movie calls for nudity and sex scenes, that this is actually a form of sexual harassment because you feel you have to do this in order to take a chance at being a star (or even just to pay your bills)? If you were to turn down the movie with nudity, flashes, or sex scenes you may wind up falling into the trash heap of aspiring actresses that were sucked into the black hole of nothingness, never to be seen or heard from again (kind of like what might happen if you didn't pay the casting couch price to get ahead). Of course we are going to assume that a majority of male movie goers want to see some skin and sex scenes and, to some extent, women do too.

So, is it sexual harassment just for women to be subjected to reading for a movie that involved, nudity, sex scenes, flashes, and the like? After all, they could make movies with no skin, no sex, no flashes, etc. and women could just be casted as women instead of sex objects.

No. It's all about consent. If she consented to starring nude in a film, she can't say she was harrassed. She chose to be in the film. If some sleezy producer said, "Meet me on the casting couch or I won't let you audition," then that is harrassment. If he forced himself up against her, or slapped her on the ass, or made catcalls towards her, or said things to her sexually without her consent, then it is harrassment. But no - she made the conscious choice to star in the film, and as long as that's as far as it goes, there is no harrassment.
 
A thread on sexual harassment has been moved to...Art and Entertainment.

Well of course.
 
Being repeatedly propositioned, repeatedly asking for sex acts, day after day, month after month, by a person who has the power to fire you or limit your opportunities within the company/organization is the very definition of sexual harassment. If she had also been groped, touched inappropriately, etc., then the person doing so would be guilty of both sexual harassment and sexual assault. She could have pressed criminal charges.

Now do us a favor and stop acting as if "boys will be boys" and "girls should STFU and enjoy it" is what you really, honestly believe.
You're way out of line, and need to apologize. There isn't a chance in hell you can deduce that from anything I've every said. Someone made the claim that you had to be groped for it to be harassment, and I was trying to find out where she was coming from. The argument has been about the definition used in this thread.
 
WTF is wrong with you? You made a poll, and followed up by repeatedly following those who didn't respond the way you want by demanding why they didn't vote in it? I didn't vote in the damned thing either. Move. On.

WTF is wrong with you? I don't care how they respond. It is a poll and anyone can respond any way they want. That's why I made the poll. I never told anyone to respond they way I want them to. Some of them claimed they couldn't answer the question and then turned around and made statements which sounded a lot like a particular answer so I told them it sounds like they wanted to answer it one way so they should vote that way.
 
No. It's all about consent. If she consented to starring nude in a film, she can't say she was harrassed. She chose to be in the film. If some sleezy producer said, "Meet me on the casting couch or I won't let you audition," then that is harrassment. If he forced himself up against her, or slapped her on the ass, or made catcalls towards her, or said things to her sexually without her consent, then it is harrassment. But no - she made the conscious choice to star in the film, and as long as that's as far as it goes, there is no harrassment.

But what about if he told her that if she slept with him that she would get the part and she consented to it? Consent is consent. But, the poll question isn't really about that. It is about the consentually accepting a nude part in order to be in the movie and you seem to have answered that so I hope you voted.
 
How about the girls grow up and act like women for change. There are very few women left any more, most females I come across are just whiney bitchy little girls. Pathetic. Real women take crap from NO-ONE.

How about the so-called men grow up and stop trying to force women to have sex with them?

Blaming women for being harassed is ridiculous.
 
You're way out of line, and need to apologize. There isn't a chance in hell you can deduce that from anything I've every said. Someone made the claim that you had to be groped for it to be harassment, and I was trying to find out where she was coming from. The argument has been about the definition used in this thread.

Actually, you're the one who's out of line and should apologize. She shared her experience about something that would have been an extremely difficult time, and your approach made it seem like you were cross examining her. This is a big part of the problem, and why so many women never report their harassers. Her story clearly describes a case of sexual harassment, as defined by the law. If this were a court, she'd have to prove it...but this is an Internet forum, and your line of questioning is creepy and inappropriate.
 
funny; a thread about sexual harassment in the Leisure Activities forum :lol:
 
How about the so-called men grow up and stop trying to force women to have sex with them?

Blaming women for being harassed is ridiculous.

I not blaming them for being harassed, however there thugs and punks in life and there always will be. How one deals with them determines whether or not such douche baggery stops or is greatly reduced. I am blaming them for their pathetic mousy reaction and excuse making and allowing said douche baggery to continue. I am blaming them for not standing up for and defending themselves. Girls bitch whine and moan about how the world and the people do them wrong, Women do something about it. Women don't need men to stop, they stop them themselves.
From how you come out whining that the douche bag men should stop being douche bags on the their own tells me everything I need to know about you. WBLG. The woman in my family take care business with douche bags, if they're feeling particularly annoyed, with a vice and a cheese grater.
 
Several women have now come out and alleged that Weinstein raped them. One rape was reported to a prosecutor in NY who buried it.


Do you think those allegations are punishment worthy, evil, or worth talking about?

It is hard to say. What does one do with someone that accuses one of criminal behavior but has no evidence to back up the claim.
 
A thread on sexual harassment has been moved to...Art and Entertainment.

Well of course.

Don't you think that is where it belongs? After all, that is the only reason anyone would get excited about the happenings unless they were old fashioned Evangelical or bigots or whatnot. I mean, a sexual exploit that cannot be proven true or false and is reported 30 years after the fact....
 
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