Sexual Harassment In Hollywood

[pillars]

I don't really think it should be illegal, though, parents should teach their kids not to act like that and how to deal with it, if they see it happen.

How would you have dealt with it, in my shoes?

 

[Sweden]

He's a jerk and impolite. Is it criminal? It shouldn't be. Should he be fired? It depends. I would. But that's my private preference.

Repeated unwelcome sexual advances from a colleague possibly not a sacking offence. From a boss? - most certainly he should be fired

 

[nota bene]

Repeated unwelcome sexual advances from a colleague possibly not a sacking offence. From a boss? - most certainly he should be fired

In the United States it is a sacking offense to repeatedly make sexual advances toward a coworker. https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sexual_harassment.cfm

https://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc/penalties-sexual-harassment

 

[DiAnna]

Sexual harassment in the workplace has been systemic in society for decades. The remedy was to quit or complain, whereupon many (if not most women) were patronized, asked if they'd provoked it, was making a report for leverage to either punish a coworker she didn't like, or coerce the employer for monetary compensation to withdraw the allegation.

This happens in all arenas of American life, from the California legislature, to high powered law firms, to blue collar manufacturing, to federal agencies... you name it, and there have been a plethora of people, nearly all women, who report that they were not only sexually harassed, but threatened by lawsuits and ruined careers if they ever spoke out. For women with hundreds of thousands in college debt, who worked their entire lives to get where they are, the stark realization that they either put up with harassment or they'd never work in their chosen professions again was chilling.

With numbers come power. It's just a shame that women have to come out in droves to form "packs" of allegations to be taken seriously at all.

Don't anyone buy the myth that sexual harassment and sexual predators in power positions is a rarity; it's systemic, it's pervasive, and it has been for many, many decades.

 

[Sweden]

Sexual harassment in the workplace has been systemic in society for decades. The remedy was to quit or complain, whereupon many (if not most women) were patronized, asked if they'd provoked it, was making a report for leverage to either punish a coworker she didn't like, or coerce the employer for monetary compensation to withdraw the allegation.

This happens in all arenas of American life, from the California legislature, to high powered law firms, to blue collar manufacturing, to federal agencies... you name it, and there have been a plethora of people, nearly all women, who report that they were not only sexually harassed, but threatened by lawsuits and ruined careers if they ever spoke out. For women with hundreds of thousands in college debt, who worked their entire lives to get where they are, the stark realization that they either put up with harassment or they'd never work in their chosen professions again was chilling.

With numbers come power. It's just a shame that women have to come out in droves to form "packs" of allegations to be taken seriously at all.

Don't anyone buy the myth that sexual harassment and sexual predators in power positions is a rarity; it's systemic, it's pervasive, and it has been for many, many decades.

And not only 'all ares of American life'. This account of harassment by Tories in the UK parliament emerged yesterday and will be a big story. Labour will be in a dilemma, if they try to exploit the Conservatives' woes they risk accusations against their own MPs.

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[AGENT J]

after reading your post, i can only conclude that you lack a grasp of what sexual harassment is.

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[Moderate Right]

I didn't vote, because your poll was poorly structured and illogical.

Actually, it was a very simple question. Do you think that an actress who accepted a part with nudity in it because she felt the pressure of having to do this in order to further her career is sexual harassment or not? Are you afraid to answer no? Or, are you afraid to answer yes?

 

[zyzygy]

If you are so confident that you know what sexual harassment is then it is an easy answer for you. You are actually scared to vote!

Scared? There is nothing scary about not voting in your poll.

 

[Moderate Right]

I explained why I didn't vote. Your question is convoluted nonsense...

But... but... no ... NOOOOO!!! Don't accuse me of being afraid... sniff sniff.

It's actually a very easy question. Is a starving actress who needs work, having that pressure on her, being sexually harassed by being offered a part in a movie with nudity or sex scenes in it? Are you afraid to answer no? Are you afraid to answer yes?

 

[joG]

It's actually a very easy question. Is a starving actress who needs work, having that pressure on her, being sexually harassed by being offered a part in a movie with nudity or sex scenes in it? Are you afraid to answer no? Are you afraid to answer yes?

Most whores do it for the money too.

 

[joG]

Well, this has been the flavor of the last month so I wanted to ask in a poll if the following is sexual harassment. How far are we going to take this?

OK. Let's first talk about the casting couch. It is fairly easy to argue that if you visit the casting couch and you are asked to do certain things in exchange for being casted in a movie, that that could possibly catapult your career into stardom, fame and money. And, of course, the more slimy people could say that if you became a star as a result then, maybe, it was worth the price you paid. On the other hand, maybe you paid the price but didn't get casted in the movie at all and basically, um, um, got screwed. Or, maybe you did get the part but the movie was a bomb and then I guess you could say that your "investment" did not pay off. Let's say that a slimy person could argue that this was sort of like prostitution, you sell yourself and get something in return for your "time" and that this is not really sexual harassment at all but a "professional business arrangement, agreed to by both parties". OK, I don't want to really start a debate on this so I'll concede that this was sexual harassment.

Now that I've laid out my foundation, so to speak, I'm getting into the crux of my poll question. Let's say that there actually was not a casting couch at all in my poll question example but you (let's say you are a female for the sake of argument) read for a part in a movie that involved nudity. Maybe we can even say that you are Sharon Stone reading for the lead in the movie "Basic Instinct". If I remember correctly, Sharon Stone was not really much of a household name before the movie but catapulted to stardom, fame, and money afterwards. Is it sexual harassment if a movie calls for nudity (or a quick flash) and the reason you did it was because you felt pressured with the need to work and wanted to "become a star"? Can it be argued that just the fact that a movie calls for nudity and sex scenes, that this is actually a form of sexual harassment because you feel you have to do this in order to take a chance at being a star (or even just to pay your bills)? If you were to turn down the movie with nudity, flashes, or sex scenes you may wind up falling into the trash heap of aspiring actresses that were sucked into the black hole of nothingness, never to be seen or heard from again (kind of like what might happen if you didn't pay the casting couch price to get ahead). Of course we are going to assume that a majority of male movie goers want to see some skin and sex scenes and, to some extent, women do too.

So, is it sexual harassment just for women to be subjected to reading for a movie that involved, nudity, sex scenes, flashes, and the like? After all, they could make movies with no skin, no sex, no flashes, etc. and women could just be casted as women instead of sex objects.

I really don’t see, what the squwak is about unless there was a rape involved. Sure, it’s not pleasant, might seem rather poorly brought up and is certainly vulgar. But I hadn’t seen any report that convinced me that the allegations were of punishment worthy evil or even really talking about other than in passing.

 

[MrWonka]

Can it be argued that just the fact that a movie calls for nudity and sex scenes, that this is actually a form of sexual harassment because you feel you have to do this in order to take a chance at being a star (or even just to pay your bills)?

It depends heavily on the context. Is there a real reason for the nudity? Does it add to the plot? Is it a real part of the character development? Is there any reason a body double couldn't be used?

If it's a sex scene is there a reason the female nudity needs to be emphasized more so than the male?

Of course, we are going to assume that a majority of male moviegoers want to see some skin and sex scenes and, to some extent, women do too.

Yes, this is an unfortunate reality of the industry. Nudity and way more often than not female nudity is going to be emphasized on film, as realistically it's emphasized far more in the real world. This makes the whole issue very merkey, but unless you're applying for a role that is literally billed as pornography I don't see any reason why body doubles couldn't be offered as an alternative. There are plenty of movies with sexual story lines which do not require nudity. If the only reason people are going to see a film is because an actress you like is showing her tits in it, then it probably wasn't a very good movie to begin with so most of the type of **** that young actresses have described happening to them seems very bull****.

 

[pillars]

Actually, it was a very simple question. Do you think that an actress who accepted a part with nudity in it because she felt the pressure of having to do this in order to further her career is sexual harassment or not? Are you afraid to answer no? Or, are you afraid to answer yes?

Yes, we're all "afraid" of answering a question in a very poorly thought out and illogical poll. You keep working that angle, it is clearly working for you.

 

[zyzygy]

It's actually a very easy question. Is a starving actress who needs work, having that pressure on her, being sexually harassed by being offered a part in a movie with nudity or sex scenes in it? Are you afraid to answer no? Are you afraid to answer yes?

We are not the starving actress so how can we answer? It would depend on the individual.

 

[pillars]

I really don’t see, what the squwak is about unless there was a rape involved. Sure, it’s not pleasant, might seem rather poorly brought up and is certainly vulgar. But I hadn’t seen any report that convinced me that the allegations were of punishment worthy evil or even really talking about other than in passing.

Several women have now come out and alleged that Weinstein raped them. One rape was reported to a prosecutor in NY who buried it.


Do you think those allegations are punishment worthy, evil, or worth talking about?

 

[zyzygy]

For the money that you can earn I would take my clothes off in a Hollywood movie.

 

[Moderate Right]

Scared? There is nothing scary about not voting in your poll.

Then there is no reason for them not to vote. After all, they claim they know exactly what sexual harassment is, so the poll question should be very easy for them.

 

[Moderate Right]

It depends heavily on the context. Is there a real reason for the nudity? Does it add to the plot? Is it a real part of the character development? Is there any reason a body double couldn't be used?

If it's a sex scene is there a reason the female nudity needs to be emphasized more so than the male?



Yes, this is an unfortunate reality of the industry. Nudity and way more often than not female nudity is going to be emphasized on film, as realistically it's emphasized far more in the real world. This makes the whole issue very merkey, but unless you're applying for a role that is literally billed as pornography I don't see any reason why body doubles couldn't be offered as an alternative. There are plenty of movies with sexual story lines which do not require nudity. If the only reason people are going to see a film is because an actress you like is showing her tits in it, then it probably wasn't a very good movie to begin with so most of the type of **** that young actresses have described happening to them seems very bull****.

As far as body doubles go, how would that actually be any different than the actual actress? This poor body double girl needs work and might feel pressured to be a body double because she needs to eat and maybe, just maybe, she will be discovered and turn into a star. Maybe this girl was actually a body double for Sharon Stone in her famous scene in Basic Instinct. Being an actress didn't seem to work out for her so she feels pressured into being a body double.

 

[zyzygy]

Then there is no reason for them not to vote. After all, they claim they know exactly what sexual harassment is, so the poll question should be very easy for them.

I can't be bothered would be a good reason.

 

[Moderate Right]

Yes, we're all "afraid" of answering a question in a very poorly thought out and illogical poll. You keep working that angle, it is clearly working for you.

In other words, you are afraid to answer yes or you are afraid to answer no, or, maybe you are afraid to answer both. You are afraid to answer yes because you don't want to be called out for going too far. You are afraid to answer no because if someone were to later claim that they were sexually harassed by merely accepting a part with nudity then you want to be able to jump on that bandwagon later at that time. It really is an easy question and it doesn't have one thing to do with whether I know what sexual harassment is or not because it is a question directed at YOU as to whether you think it is or not.

 

[Moderate Right]

We are not the starving actress so how can we answer? It would depend on the individual.

So, your answer would be "other" because you think that it depends on the situation. If the person accepting a nude part in a movie thinks it is sexual harassment then it is, and if they don't, then it isn't. Is that what you are saying? And, if so, what if that person doesn't think it is sexual harassment at the time but ten years later she jumps on the bandwagon and then claims that it is?

 

[zyzygy]

So, your answer would be "other" because you think that it depends on the situation. If the person accepting a nude part in a movie thinks it is sexual harassment then it is, and if they don't, then it isn't. Is that what you are saying? And, if so, what if that person doesn't think it is sexual harassment at the time but ten years later she jumps on the bandwagon and then claims that it is?

I don't care, does that come under "other"?

 

[Moderate Right]

I can't be bothered would be a good reason.

Interesting. So, you can't be bothered with voting in the poll but you seem to be perfectly fine with being bothered to make posts in this thread anyway. I don't see where that makes any sense.

 

[zyzygy]

Interesting. So, you can't be bothered with voting in the poll but you seem to be perfectly fine with being bothered to make posts in this thread anyway. I don't see where that makes any sense.

I only responded because your remark about people being scared to vote in your poll did not make any sense. No dire consequences will ensue by voting.

 

[MrWonka]

As far as body doubles go, how would that actually be any different than the actual actress? This poor body double girl needs work and might feel pressured to be a body double because she needs to eat and maybe, just maybe, she will be discovered and turn into a star. Maybe this girl was actually a body double for Sharon Stone in her famous scene in Basic Instinct. Being an actress didn't seem to work out for her so she feels pressured into being a body double.

Well in that particular case it's more about what the role dictates. As I said unless you're talking about pornography....... Well choosing to be a body double is similar to choosing to be in pornography. You know that's what you're getting into when you sign up for it. There's really no way around that. I don't think you can realistically say the same thing about generally being an actress. There are plenty of famous actresses that have never needed to show nudity on camera in any of their roles. There are very few men who have ever had to show anything above and beyond their back side on camera, and even in those cases I think the guys were more than happy to do it. It seems like every movie Kevin Coster was in for awhile there he showed his ass.