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Seattle Storm holds pregame rally supporting Planned Parenthood, amid protest[W:354:430]

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year2late said:
no i did not make a choice to get pregnant. I was on birth control pills and had a medication interaction that after the fact was known to interfere with effectiveness of bcp.

I made a choice to remain pregnant.

So in your mind only the non poor people should "insurable"? Thank you for proving my point, again.

If a woman has crappy access to health care...pragmatically speaking...she may consider it a danger to herself to remain pregnant.
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if you have sex, obviously you know that you can get pregnant. Stop lying. If you assume that women that are having sex do not know they can get pregnant you are really insulting women.
 
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Bucky said:
Stop changing the subject. Tell me how many women are getting an abortion? Hint, it affects a very low portion of the population in America - the majority of whom were minorities and low wage earners.
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By the way Bucky, you seem to be forgetting that about 50 percent of the U.S. women who have elective abortions ( those who have higher incomes ) don't go to Planned Parenthoods for abortions. They spend the extra money to go to private clinic or to their GYN for an abortion, so they will not have to face the abortion protesters.
 
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thegoverness said:
i want you to list all of these "liberal countries" with universal healthcare, in which abortion is banned.

Go.
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99% of smokers know that by smoking they are at higher risk of lung cancer. Of course smokers are not trying to get lung cancer but they are certainly aware of the increased risk.
 
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Bucky said:
That has to be the lamest of lame excuses. The majority of pregnancies are unplanned, that doesn't mean women don't know they could get pregnant.
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It's not an excuse. You said that women who get pregnant made a choice to have a child. That is blatantly false.

Tell me all these women that don't know that sex could lead to pregnancy? Arguing that women don't know this is so insulting and belittling,
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Oh look, the classic Bucky strawman. That is not my argument at all. I clearly said that not every woman who has sex is planning to have a child.

it is quite offensive.
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What's offensive is saying that rape victims deserve it.
 
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Bucky said:
if you have sex, obviously you know that you can get pregnant. Stop lying. If you assume that women that are having sex do not know they can get pregnant you are really insulting women.
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I made a choice to have protected sex knowing that birth control failure could lead to pregnancy. I made no choice to get pregnant. I clearly made a choice to remain pregnant.
 
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TheGoverness said:
What's offensive is saying that rape victims deserve it.
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Nobody deserves to be raped. End of discussion.
 
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Bucky said:
99% of smokers know that by smoking they are at higher risk of lung cancer. Of course smokers are not trying to get lung cancer but they are certainly aware of the increased risk.
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Ahh, so they consented to get lung cancer.
 
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Bucky said:
Nobody deserves to be raped. End of discussion.
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Have you read your own posts?
 
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Bucky said:
I am very pro women.
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ajn678 said:
I think I would have rather been aborted than go to a WNBA game.
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Yeah...sure you would.

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Bucky said:
I am very pro women....
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In a "I want to control their bodily functions and they are at fault for their own rape" kind of way.
 
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Bucky said:
I am very pro women. but I am very pro men as well.
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You are pro-women? :lamo

I almost spit out the water I was drinking when I read that because virtually NOTHING you have said on this abortion forum is pro-women.
 
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Bucky said:
99% of smokers know that by smoking they are at higher risk of lung cancer. Of course smokers are not trying to get lung cancer but they are certainly aware of the increased risk.
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Yet we would never stop a smoker from getting the medical procedure he needs
 
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Bucky said:
Oh, my friend?

The U.S is only 1 of 7 countries that legally allow late term abortions. Countries like France, Germany, the UK, Sweden all ban second and third term abortion. Thus, according to the pro-choice brigade, these laws would be defined as restrictive.

Countries that do not have any restriction towards abortion? The U.S, China, North Korea just to name a few.
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And you are mistaken.

There are abortions a year after 24 weeks gestation that take place in the total USA.
Those occur only in very extremely rare cases where the woman's life is at risk.

Most countries also allow for abortions when the woman's life is at risk.
 
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Bucky said:
Abortion is banned in the second and third term. Most people on this forum that are pro-choice believe a fetus has 0 rights until birth and not allowing 2nd and 3rd term abortions is a restriction on women's rights.
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We understand that right to privacy is until viability ( about 24 weeks gestation ) and that after viability the states can take a compelling interest in the unborn and proscribe abortion.

I have no problem with that at all.

AFAIK the regular pro choicers on this forum know that 3rd term abortions are extremely rare.
In the US about 100 abortions a year past 24 weeks gestation are performed to save the woman's life.
They are extreamly rare.

1.3 percent of abortions are performed between 21 and 24 weeks gestation.
Almost all for the woman's life or because of fetal abnormalies , some which are incompatible to life.
 
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Bucky said:
99% of smokers know that by smoking they are at higher risk of lung cancer. Of course smokers are not trying to get lung cancer but they are certainly aware of the increased risk.
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And if they get cancer they seek medical treatment.
 
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Bucky said:
Oh, my friend?

The U.S is only 1 of 7 countries that legally allow late term abortions. Countries like France, Germany, the UK, Sweden all ban second and third term abortion. Thus, according to the pro-choice brigade, these laws would be defined as restrictive.

Countries that do not have any restriction towards abortion? The U.S, China, North Korea just to name a few.
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TG asked you to list all the liberal countries with universal health care in which abortion is banned. YOU made the claim that abortion is banned in many liberal countries. Banned would mean illegal at any stage.
 
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Bucky said:
That has to be the lamest of lame excuses. The majority of pregnancies are unplanned, that doesn't mean women don't know they could get pregnant.

Tell me all these women that don't know that sex could lead to pregnancy? Arguing that women don't know this is so insulting and belittling, it is quite offensive.
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TG didn't say that women don't know that sex can lead to pregnancy. She said that not everyone who has sex is looking to get pregnant and having a child.

People who smoke know that it can lead to lung cancer, yet I'm pretty sure 100% of smokers are not looking to get tumours.
 
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Scrabaholic said:
TG asked you to list all the liberal countries with universal health care in which abortion is banned. YOU made the claim that abortion is banned in many liberal countries. Banned would mean illegal at any stage.
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And I provided a list of liberal countries that have universal health care and in all but 1 abortion was legal (to some extent).
 
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Bucky said:
99% of smokers know that by smoking they are at higher risk of lung cancer. Of course smokers are not trying to get lung cancer but they are certainly aware of the increased risk.
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I ONCE READ THAT ABOUT 18% OF THEM WILL GET CANCER. But I haven't been to find that particular statistic in my searches so far, to link it. You may consider the number to be apocryphal until it can be verified. ANYWAY, the key thing I want to point out is this that you also wrote:
Bucky said:
if you have sex, obviously you know that you can get pregnant. Stop lying. If you assume that women that are having sex do not know they can get pregnant you are really insulting women.
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YOU KNOW FULL WELL THAT THE CONSEQUENCES DO NOT HAVE TO BE ACCEPTED. See above about cancer. Why should pregnancy be any different (except that for women who use birth control, the pregnancy rate is maybe 4%)? If abortion is banned, does that mean we should also ban cancer treatments for smokers? What about banning heart-disease treatments for folks who like to eat fatty foods? What about banning mosquito-swatting for anyone who chooses to live near a swamp?

WELL?
 
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Peter King said:
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You are pro-women? :lamo

I almost spit out the water I was drinking when I read that because virtually NOTHING you have said on this abortion forum is pro-women.
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I'm so glad I didn't have food or drink in my mouth when I read that post of his.
 
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Scrabaholic said:
TG asked you to list all the liberal countries with universal health care in which abortion is banned. YOU made the claim that abortion is banned in many liberal countries. Banned would mean illegal at any stage.
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If I meant illegal at any stage I would have said that.
 
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