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Science and Religion, a comparative study [W:222]

There are plenty of good reasons to believe there's no such thing as "god".

Plenty.

Then you wouldn't mind posting a few, yes? :)

Still waiting for a few of those reasons, of which you claim to have plenty.

Please. :roll:

Don't be so condescending and pedantic.
What is this, Show and Tell?
What could be more superior-sounding and narrowly unimaginative than what follows your above admonition:
Religion is a crutch. A coping tool. It helps the weak get through the day.
 
Much obliged for the clarification, Quag. So it was sarcasmus all around. I dig. At last. :)

They say if you have to explain a joke it isn't funny, so I guess as far as it pertains to you I failed :(
 
Not true...there is plenty of evidence even though some only like to deny it...like creation itself...

Why do you need faith, if you have evidence? What makes you believe creation was magic?
 
Your argument from the "default condition" is belied by the historical and archeological and anthropological evidence.
What evidence do you have that makes faith superfluous? :)

Simply not true. Nobody is born believing in gods. It's put into them like a "copy me" virus.
 
Simply not true. Nobody is born believing in gods. It's put into them like a "copy me" virus.

Humans are programmed to believe in God because it gives them a better chance of survival, researchers claim.

A study into the way children's brains develop suggests that during the process of evolution those with religious tendencies began to benefit from their beliefs - possibly by working in groups to ensure the future of their community.

The findings of Bruce Hood, professor of developmental psychology at Bristol University, suggest that magical and supernatural beliefs are hardwired into our brains from birth, and that religions are therefore tapping into a powerful psychological force.

His work is supported by other researchers who have found evidence linking religious feelings and experience to particular regions of the brain.
They suggest people are programmed to receive a feeling of spirituality from electrical activity in these areas.

The findings challenge atheists such as Richard Dawkins, the author of The God Delusion, who has long argued that religious beliefs result from poor education and childhood 'indoctrination'.

Professor Hood believes it is futile to try to get people to abandon their beliefs because these come from such a 'fundamental level'.
'Our research shows children have a natural, intuitive way of reasoning that leads them to all kinds of supernatural beliefs about how the world works,' he said.

'As they grow up they overlay these beliefs with more rational approaches but the tendency to illogical supernatural beliefs remains as religion.'

The professor, who will present his findings at the British Science Association's annual meeting this week, sees organised religion as just part of a spectrum of supernatural beliefs.

In one study he found even ardent atheists balked at the idea of accepting an organ transplant from a murderer, because of a superstitious belief that an individual's personality could be stored in his or her organs.

To reinforce his point, Professor Hood produced a blue cardigan during a lecture and invited the audience to put it on, for a £10 reward. This prompted a sea of raised hands to volunteer.

He then said that the notorious murderer Fred West wore the cardigan, causing most to put their hand down.

Although it was merely a stunt - the cardigan was not West's - the professor said this showed that even the most rational of people can be irrationally made to feel uncomfortable.

Another experiment involved asking subjects to cut up a treasured photograph. When his team then measured their sweat production - which is what lie-detector tests monitor - there was a jump in the reading. This did not occur when destroying an object of less sentimental significance.

'This shows how superstition is hardwired into our brains,' he added.

The Rev Michael Reiss, professor of science education at London University's Institute of Education and an Anglican priest, said he saw no reason why such research should undermine religious belief. 'We are evolved creatures and the whole point about humanity is that we are rooted in the natural world.'


Read more: Why we are born to believe in God: It's wired into the brain, says psychologist | Daily Mail Online
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Are you claiming that a god does not exist? That's the ultimate silliness, my friend.
There are reasons to believe in a god. There are no reasons to believe that a god does not exist.
"Progressed" have we? Toward what? :)

I am saying that there is no evidence for the existence of any god. I suspect that all gods are inventions of mankind. Do you believe in the existence of Krishna and Shiva?
 
"Progressed" have we? Toward what? :)

Let us say bettered our condition. Science has done a lot for us, or would you prefer Middle Ages conditions?
 
Let us say bettered our condition. Science has done a lot for us, or would you prefer Middle Ages conditions?

People still get sick, grow old, and die...that will never change as long as there is sin...
 
1. No evidence
2. Why so many gods?

One word...Satan...his goal is to turn as many as he can away from God...and he's doing a good job...
 
One word...Satan...his goal is to turn as many as he can away from God...and he's doing a good job...

There no such thing as Satan either.


It's all nonsense designed to control people.
 
There no such thing as Satan either.


It's all nonsense designed to control people.

And that is one of his best tactics...getting people to believe he is not real...
 
Present some of this evidence please.
I am saying that there is no evidence for the existence of any god.
1. No evidence
So you ask for evidence for belief in God, while your disbelief is based on no evidence. Is this a fair characterization of your stance?
Agnosticism would be a more reasonable stance for you, I should think.
I suspect that all gods are inventions of mankind.
Suspicions are reasonable.
Do you believe in the existence of Krishna and Shiva?
I'm not a Hindu. But I believe in the ultimate reality behind the Hindu story. The same ultimate reality that lies behind all religious stories.
Let us say bettered our condition. Science has done a lot for us, or would you prefer Middle Ages conditions?
And religion has done a lot for us. Indeed it has bettered the human condition profoundly. It's the denial of this fact that makes militant atheism so profoundly wrongheaded.:)
 
People still get sick, grow old, and die...that will never change as long as there is sin...

Sin is a religious fiction. It might even be a specifically Christian concept. People still get sick, grow old, and die because it's natural to do so.
 
Thus spake MancSkipper!

Nobody is born believing in anything except the lost comfort of the womb.

Like your simplistic view, or is that an original simplism? ;)

I aim to transmit understanding, you don't seem to be receiving.
 
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