Salisbury - Unanswered Questions

[Fledermaus]

The UK poisoned the Skripals. Yep. UKs in UK, Russians in Russia.
MoD D letters are censorship letters to UK press.
They had to have nerve agent samples from Porton Down to identify the alleged poison. Named "novichok" by USA scientists at US WMD labs.
OPCW shared no samples as required by their own charter.
Have you seen any Skripals?
The Skripal home. The Tavern. The park bench. Novichok is destroyed and diluted by water and was not protected.
Where are Skripal guinea pigs and cats?
I agree you know nothing, and are a naive person who allows his cranium to be filled with propaganda of all types.

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The UK poisoned the Skripals. Yep. UKs in UK, Russians in Russia.

This makes no sense. Nor is it supported by any EVIDENCE.

MoD D letters are censorship letters to UK press.

You have yet to present any or to explain what they have to do with this case.

They had to have nerve agent samples from Porton Down to identify the alleged poison. Named "novichok" by USA scientists at US WMD labs.

What "nerve agent samples from Porton Down"? Citation? It was unanimously confirmed by four laboratories around the world, according to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.

OPCW shared no samples as required by their own charter.

Incorrect.

Have you seen any Skripals?

Yes.

But I also know where you get your BS claim from:

Skripals Obviously Isolated, Held Against Their Will – Russian Embassy in UK - Sputnik International

The Skripal home. The Tavern. The park bench. Novichok is destroyed and diluted by water and was not protected.

And? According to scientists it isn't as susceptible as you and RT believe it is. "According to Vladimir Uglyov, who worked on the development of Novichok, it is very stable with a slow evaporation rate and can remain dangerous for years once deployed."

Where are Skripal guinea pigs and cats?

Who cares?

I agree you know nothing, and are a naive person who allows his cranium to be filled with propaganda of all types.

Again, projection by a CT minded individual

I see a whole lot of CLAIMING but not on shred of citation or support....

 

[DaveFagan]

The UK poisoned the Skripals. Yep. UKs in UK, Russians in Russia.

This makes no sense. Nor is it supported by any EVIDENCE.

MoD D letters are censorship letters to UK press.

You have yet to present any or to explain what they have to do with this case.

They had to have nerve agent samples from Porton Down to identify the alleged poison. Named "novichok" by USA scientists at US WMD labs.

What "nerve agent samples from Porton Down"? Citation? It was unanimously confirmed by four laboratories around the world, according to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.

OPCW shared no samples as required by their own charter.

Incorrect.

Have you seen any Skripals?

Yes.

But I also know where you get your BS claim from:

Skripals Obviously Isolated, Held Against Their Will – Russian Embassy in UK - Sputnik International

The Skripal home. The Tavern. The park bench. Novichok is destroyed and diluted by water and was not protected.

And? According to scientists it isn't as susceptible as you and RT believe it is. "According to Vladimir Uglyov, who worked on the development of Novichok, it is very stable with a slow evaporation rate and can remain dangerous for years once deployed."

Where are Skripal guinea pigs and cats?

Who cares?

I agree you know nothing, and are a naive person who allows his cranium to be filled with propaganda of all types.

Again, projection by a CT minded individual

I see a whole lot of CLAIMING but not on shred of citation or support....

For gosh sakes! Accusing the UK sounds exactly like accusing the Russians. Who'd a thunk it? Well, except Porton Down and access to WMD is only 5 miles away.

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[Fledermaus]

For gosh sakes! Accusing the UK sounds exactly like accusing the Russians. Who'd a thunk it? Well, except Porton Down and access to WMD is only 5 miles away.

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And you still have nothing but SPUTNIK/RT claims...

No logic to the claims.

No evidence to support the claims.

Just claims.

All you can do is repeat parrot like "Porton Down, Porton Down"...

The UK poisoned the Skripals. What EVIDENCE do you have for that?

The MoD D letters you keep babbling about. What are they and what significance are they.

What "evidence" have they "covered up"?

OPCW ended up with samples. What are you talking about?

What are you talking about with the "Cloistering" of the Skripals?

What "evidence" have they destroyed?

 

[DaveFagan]

They never arrived at Salisbury Cathedral and I defy you to produce a pic of them visiting.

Here's your GRU boys Fagan. OMG! Look at all that snow!

The snow drifts were so bad they couldn't make it to the Cathedral and so instead they visited the Skripal home.

Fieldmouse, take a good look. The two blondes on the left screen side of the photos are the culprits. In Salisbury and on CCTV. Case solved. Two of them, don't ya' know, because carrying all that few grams of WMD must be a very heavy burden. They are in Salisbury and may be Swedish or not. They are probably hookers that Skripal didn't pay, or not. They could be Porton Down employees, or not. Case solved.
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[DaveFagan]

Refer to Post number 79. Case solved.

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[Fledermaus]

Fieldmouse, take a good look. The two blondes on the left screen side of the photos are the culprits. In Salisbury and on CCTV. Case solved. Two of them, don't ya' know, because carrying all that few grams of WMD must be a very heavy burden. They are in Salisbury and may be Swedish or not. They are probably hookers that Skripal didn't pay, or not. They could be Porton Down employees, or not. Case solved.
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Ignorant theory is ignorant.

 

[Fledermaus]

Refer to Post number 79. Case solved.

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And you still have nothing but SPUTNIK/RT claims...

No logic to the claims.

No evidence to support the claims.

Just claims.

All you can do is repeat parrot like "Porton Down, Porton Down"...

The UK poisoned the Skripals. What EVIDENCE do you have for that?

The MoD D letters you keep babbling about. What are they and what significance are they.

What "evidence" have they "covered up"?

OPCW ended up with samples. What are you talking about?

What are you talking about with the "Cloistering" of the Skripals?

What "evidence" have they destroyed?

 

[DaveFagan]

You must not have slept good and are a little slow on the uptake. Just giving you an excuse for your lackadaisical nature. I have offered exactly the same evidence as you have for the Skripal situation. Exactly. If mine is not good, neither is yours, and that is the point.

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[Fledermaus]

You must not have slept good and are a little slow on the uptake. Just giving you an excuse for your lackadaisical nature. I have offered exactly the same evidence as you have for the Skripal situation. Exactly. If mine is not good, neither is yours, and that is the point.

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And you still have nothing but SPUTNIK/RT claims...

No logic to the claims.

No evidence to support the claims.

Just claims.

All you can do is repeat parrot like "Porton Down, Porton Down"...

The UK poisoned the Skripals. What EVIDENCE do you have for that?

The MoD D letters you keep babbling about. What are they and what significance are they.

What "evidence" have they "covered up"?

OPCW ended up with samples. What are you talking about?

What are you talking about with the "Cloistering" of the Skripals?

What "evidence" have they destroyed?

 

[Rogue Valley]

You must not have slept good and are a little slow on the uptake. Just giving you an excuse for your lackadaisical nature. I have offered exactly the same evidence as you have for the Skripal situation. Exactly. If mine is not good, neither is yours, and that is the point.

I haven't seen you disprove anything regarding the UK narrative. No credible citations, no pictures, absolutely nothing beyond your psycho-babble.

As a KGB man, Putin harbors a deep hatred for what he considers traitors, and he endeavors to make examples of such people.

Like Crimea and eastern Ukraine, he didn't even care about plausible deniability here. He just sent his goons and if they are exposed so what? The UK will do nothing beyond sanctions.

What is obvious is that the GRU failed to do a mock-up and then run potency/sustainability tests. They just assumed the timing would be perfect and medical intervention would be too late.

 

[DaveFagan]

I repeat. I have presented exactly the same claims. If mine are not valid, yours are not. Only the truly simple-minded, like my goombah, Dr. Justin O. Peewillie, could fail to understand such a clear and simple analogy.
No logic to the claims.

No evidence to support your claims.

Just claims.

All you can do is repeat parrot like "Porton Down, Porton Down"...WMD lab 5 miles from Salisbury.

The 2 blondes poisoned the Skripals. What EVIDENCE do you have for that? Hormone problem. As in What makes a whore moan? Don't pay 'em.

The MoD D letters censor investigators.

What "evidence" have they "covered up"? They haven't presented any.

OPCW ended up with samples of something.

What are you talking about with the "Cloistering" of the Skripals and nobody can talk to them or interview them or visit them or have contact with theri relatives?

What "evidence," like the two dead guinea pigs and dead cats and park bench have they destroyed?

Fixed it for you. Don't thank me. Mom always told me to help people with disabilities and it makes me feel like a Boy Scout.

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[DaveFagan]

I haven't seen you disprove anything regarding the UK narrative. No credible citations, no pictures, absolutely nothing beyond your psycho-babble.

As a KGB man, Putin harbors a deep hatred for what he considers traitors, and he endeavors to make examples of such people.

Like Crimea and eastern Ukraine, he didn't even care about plausible deniability here. He just sent his goons and if they are exposed so what? The UK will do nothing beyond sanctions.

What is obvious is that the GRU failed to do a mock-up and then run potency/sustainability tests. They just assumed the timing would be perfect and medical intervention would be too late.

Skripal was pardoned by Russia. Still a Russian Citizen. He wasn't shipped off to UK. He went there by his own choice. Left his family behind. Just a great and a simple traitor and traitors can't be trusted by either side, so the UK didn't trust him either. Perhaps his association with Pablo Miller and Christopher Steele and the Steele dossier caused the UK to regret his presence in the UK. No problem, like David Kelley, whack the bastard, eh?
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[Rogue Valley]

I repeat. I have presented exactly the same claims.

Anyone can present "claims" Fagan. Where is the supporting structure for your "claims"?

You have not introduced/documented any. Without supporting credible citations, "claims" are simply unsubstantiated poppycock.

 

[DaveFagan]

Anyone can present "claims" Fagan. Where is the supporting structure for your "claims"?

You have not introduced/documented any. Without supporting credible citations, "claims" are simply unsubstantiated poppycock.

Which is exactly what the Skripal claims are by yourself and fieldmouse. That's my point.

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[Fledermaus]

I repeat. I have presented exactly the same claims. If mine are not valid, yours are not. Only the truly simple-minded, like my goombah, Dr. Justin O. Peewillie, could fail to understand such a clear and simple analogy.
No logic to the claims.

No evidence to support your claims.

Just claims.

All you can do is repeat parrot like "Porton Down, Porton Down"...WMD lab 5 miles from Salisbury.

The 2 blondes poisoned the Skripals. What EVIDENCE do you have for that? Hormone problem. As in What makes a whore moan? Don't pay 'em.

The MoD D letters censor investigators.

What "evidence" have they "covered up"? They haven't presented any.

OPCW ended up with samples of something.

What are you talking about with the "Cloistering" of the Skripals and nobody can talk to them or interview them or visit them or have contact with theri relatives?

What "evidence," like the two dead guinea pigs and dead cats and park bench have they destroyed?

Fixed it for you. Don't thank me. Mom always told me to help people with disabilities and it makes me feel like a Boy Scout.

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Stupidity noted. Please try again.





The UK poisoned the Skripals. What EVIDENCE do you have for that?

The MoD D letters you keep babbling about. What are they and what significance are they.

What "evidence" have they "covered up"?

OPCW ended up with samples. What are you talking about?

What are you talking about with the "Cloistering" of the Skripals?

What "evidence" have they destroyed?

 

[Fledermaus]

Which is exactly what the Skripal claims are by yourself and fieldmouse. That's my point.

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Your point is based on ignorance, not evidence.

 

[DaveFagan]

Stupidity noted. Please try again.





The UK poisoned the Skripals. What EVIDENCE do you have for that?

The MoD D letters you keep babbling about. What are they and what significance are they.

What "evidence" have they "covered up"?

OPCW ended up with samples. What are you talking about?

What are you talking about with the "Cloistering" of the Skripals?

What "evidence" have they destroyed?

I accept that your stupidity is noted and am in complete agreement.
You keep posting a UK Mass Media narrative and D letters prevent any opposing narratives that might present the truth.
A MSM narrative promoted by the same agencies censoring Investigative Reporters is a poster child for duplicity, but you believe them.
No evidence has been presented, except the the US, UK, Iran, Czechoslovakia, and possibly many other Nations have produced the WMD named "novichok" by the USA.
The USA was the last Nation to control Russian WMD, named novichok by the USA, and the OPCW certified that all Russian examples and the manufacturing facility was destroyed.
Christopher Steele, Skripal's associate and author of the Steele Dossier, paid for by the DNC/FBI/etc. could have invited retaliation upon Skripal.
Porton Down had WMD that was not certified "destroyed" by the OPCW. Instant suspicion only 5 miles from Salisbury.
"D" letters prevent any objective alternative "evidence" from being published. That is evidence tampering.
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[DaveFagan]

Your point is based on ignorance, not evidence.

I accept that your stupidity is noted and am in complete agreement. Based upon ignorance. Your ignorance.
You keep posting a UK Mass Media narrative and D letters prevent any opposing narratives that might present the truth.
A MSM narrative promoted by the same agencies censoring Investigative Reporters is a poster child for duplicity, but you believe them.
No evidence has been presented, except the the US, UK, Iran, Czechoslovakia, and possibly many other Nations have produced the WMD named "novichok" by the USA.
The USA was the last Nation to control Russian WMD, named novichok by the USA, and the OPCW certified that all Russian examples and the manufacturing facility was destroyed.
Christopher Steele, Skripal's associate and author of the Steele Dossier, paid for by the DNC/FBI/etc. could have invited retaliation upon Skripal.
Porton Down had WMD that was not certified "destroyed" by the OPCW. Instant suspicion only 5 miles from Salisbury.
"D" letters prevent any objective alternative "evidence" from being published. That is evidence tampering.

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[Fledermaus]

I accept that your stupidity is noted and am in complete agreement. Based upon ignorance. Your ignorance.
You keep posting a UK Mass Media narrative and D letters prevent any opposing narratives that might present the truth.
A MSM narrative promoted by the same agencies censoring Investigative Reporters is a poster child for duplicity, but you believe them.
No evidence has been presented, except the the US, UK, Iran, Czechoslovakia, and possibly many other Nations have produced the WMD named "novichok" by the USA.
The USA was the last Nation to control Russian WMD, named novichok by the USA, and the OPCW certified that all Russian examples and the manufacturing facility was destroyed.
Christopher Steele, Skripal's associate and author of the Steele Dossier, paid for by the DNC/FBI/etc. could have invited retaliation upon Skripal.
Porton Down had WMD that was not certified "destroyed" by the OPCW. Instant suspicion only 5 miles from Salisbury.
"D" letters prevent any objective alternative "evidence" from being published. That is evidence tampering.

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And more Gish Gallop with no logic nor evidence.

In other words just like the usual conspiracy theorist garbage.

You keep babbling about the D letters for example. But you have yet to present a single example.... Try backing up your current claims before spewing more.

 

[DaveFagan]

And more Gish Gallop with no logic nor evidence.

In other words just like the usual conspiracy theorist garbage.

You keep babbling about the D letters for example. But you have yet to present a single example.... Try backing up your current claims before spewing more.

Why Yes! That describes your Skripal thoughts accurately.
The USA was certified to be the last holder of the USA named WMD "novichok." Certified by OPCW. OOPS.
Now that we know who had that WMD, we have identified the prime suspect. The USA. Maybe you, or not. OOPS.
Skripal connected to Steele Dossier. OOPS.
Super powerful, maximum lethality, absolutely fatal, but failed to kill. OOPS.
Maybe the two blondes were from the USA. Or not. Probably from France. French perfume bottle and packagiong. OOPS.

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[Fledermaus]

Why Yes! That describes your Skripal thoughts accurately.
The USA was certified to be the last holder of the USA named WMD "novichok." Certified by OPCW. OOPS.
Now that we know who had that WMD, we have identified the prime suspect. The USA. Maybe you, or not. OOPS.
Skripal connected to Steele Dossier. OOPS.
Super powerful, maximum lethality, absolutely fatal, but failed to kill. OOPS.
Maybe the two blondes were from the USA. Or not. Probably from France. French perfume bottle and packagiong. OOPS.

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More CT nonsense.

IOW. A bunch of claims without logical nor evidential support.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Why Yes! That describes your Skripal thoughts accurately.
The USA was certified to be the last holder of the USA named WMD "novichok." Certified by OPCW. OOPS.
Now that we know who had that WMD, we have identified the prime suspect. The USA. Maybe you, or not. OOPS.
Skripal connected to Steele Dossier. OOPS.
Super powerful, maximum lethality, absolutely fatal, but failed to kill. OOPS.
Maybe the two blondes were from the USA. Or not. Probably from France. French perfume bottle and packagiong. OOPS.

We'll have to add you to the list Fagan....

 

[DaveFagan]

We'll have to add you to the list Fagan....

The Maximum Disinformation is from the UK MSM. Unsubstantiated accusations. Censored Media. Lack of evidence. The absolute opposite of an unfettered investigation to determine "TRUTH." a/k/a Lamestream propaganda from MI6, Integrity Initiative, and a compliant MSM. The "TRUTH" is nowhere to be found in Western MSM. Just like those White Helmets manufactured narratives.

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[Rogue Valley]

The Maximum Disinformation is from the UK MSM. Unsubstantiated accusations. Censored Media. Lack of evidence. The absolute opposite of an unfettered investigation to determine "TRUTH." a/k/a Lamestream propaganda from MI6, Integrity Initiative, and a compliant MSM. The "TRUTH" is nowhere to be found in Western MSM. Just like those White Helmets manufactured narratives.

Don't get mad. Simply start providing links for your crazy assertions. That's not too much to ask. Everyone else around here (with the exceptions of Westphalian and beerftw) provides citations.

 

[Westphalian]

Don't get mad. Simply start providing links for your crazy assertions. That's not too much to ask. Everyone else around here (with the exceptions of Westphalian and beerftw) provides citations.

:lamo

3 posts up you make a crazy assertion with no citation.


Dave's comments are built around a fundamental principle of law based societies ........ innocent until proven guilty. Yet in this theatre of western absurdity, it seems that Russia is guilty by decree, and that it is Russia's responsibility to dis-prove the evidence free decree.


Guilty by decree of T May - the woman who you castigate for rank incompetence on everything, except blaming Russia of course

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