Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

[Cardinal]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

I dont think he is guility of what your accusing him of...

I am open to hear you out on how you think he did that if you want to make thst srgument but i just dont see it

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The things that he did are of public record. If you doubt that, then you can just go to the Mueller report, go to "Russian Contacts with the Campaign" and just read from there. All of the things I said Trump did happened. They did not rise to the level of criminality, but they happened. So when I say he "welcomed and encouraged" a hostile foreign adversary to interfere in our election to help him with the election, that's based on multiple events, meetings and statements that are known to be true. And when I say that he didn't once report any of those meetings or events to the FBI, that is categorically true. And when I say that he, in turn, lied to the American people about all of it, that also is categorically true.

So should a person like that be the head of state of a democratic country?

 

[trouble13]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

The things that he did are of public record. If you doubt that, then you can just go to the Mueller report, go to "Russian Contacts with the Campaign" and just read from there. All of the things I said Trump did happened. They did not rise to the level of criminality, but they happened. So when I say he "welcomed and encouraged" a hostile foreign adversary to interfere in our election to help him with the election, that's based on multiple events, meetings and statements that are known to be true. And when I say that he didn't once report any of those meetings or events to the FBI, that is categorically true. And when I say that he, in turn, lied to the American people about all of it, that also is categorically true.

So should a person like that be the head of state of a democratic country?

Short answer yes

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[Cardinal]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

Short answer yes

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What do you think it says about your views of democracy if you believe that a person who undermines it should be the President of a democratic country?

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

It wasn’t illegal.
Most candidates probably would have taken the info.
But it WAS wrong.

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

It wasn’t illegal.
Most candidates probably would have taken the info.
But it WAS wrong.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

So should a person like that be the head of state of a democratic country?

No. Trump is the only president in my lifetime who would even consider this treason as acceptable (and in addition, accepting foreign meddling is illegal)

 

[Kobie]

The GOP is dead. It committed fratricide beginning in the early 90s and finally killed off the last members in 2017. It's just the Republican party; a meaner, more extreme version of the Democrats. They spend money like Democrats but kill taxes for the rich and corporations. The Republicans have approved two budgets that were near or over a TRILLION dollar deficit. We live in interesting times.

Everything Trump touches dies.

 

[Cardinal]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

It wasn’t illegal.
Most candidates probably would have taken the info.
But it WAS wrong.

If "most candidates" would have taken that info, then all that tells me is that a minority of candidates have any business coming within a mile of the White House.

 

[humbolt]

Everything Trump touches dies.

Trump wouldn't have needed all those NDA's if what you said was true.

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

If "most candidates" would have taken that info, then all that tells me is that a minority of candidates have any business coming within a mile of the White House.

Reminds me of another favorite quote of mine by Douglas Adams: "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job"

 

[HumblePi]

Obama worked his magic so the Russian lawyer could reenter the county after having been banned by a New York court for criminal behavior. That criminal lawyer met with democrat hireling and friend, Glenn Simpson on June 8, 2016. She then met with Trump Jr. on June 9, 2016 and then again with Glenn Simpson on June 10, 2016. No information changed hands and yet the democrats claimed the meeting (which had been arranged by people working for Glenn Simpson and the DNC) was evidence of "Russian collusion."

What a bunch of mob crooks the democrat have running their campaigns.

Your comment lost my interest after the first word, 'Obama'. This is not about Barack Obama. The thread is about Rudy Giuliani being a complete and utter fool by saying there's nothing wrong with taking information from Russia.

 

[Athanasius68]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

If "most candidates" would have taken that info, then all that tells me is that a minority of candidates have any business coming within a mile of the White House.

The Clinton campaign did.
As did the Obama Admin.
No special standards for Trump.

 

[HumblePi]

AFAIK, it wasn't illegal, just immoral. Consorting with an enemy who has repeatedly acted hostile toward US interests goes up to the line but doesn't seem to cross over into treason. Sad.

The special counsel said it did not establish enough evidence to bring charges of criminal conspiracy and detailed 10 allegations of Trump's attempts to obstruct the Russia investigation that left open whether Trump broke the law. All you have to prove for conspiracy is that they entered into a meeting of the minds to do something wrong and had one overt act. They entered into a meeting of the minds to attend a meeting to get stolen material on Hillary. They went to the meeting. That's conspiracy right there.

 

[Peter King]

Rudy Giuliani said on Sunday that there’s ‘nothing wrong’ with taking information from Russians, after the Mueller report laid out extensive ties between the Trump campaign and Russians during the 2016 election campaign. Giuliani was being interviewed with Jake Tapper on CNN this morning and said; “Any candidate in the world would take information,” even as Tapper noted the information came from a “hostile foreign source.”

Here's a primer for Rudy Giuliani and anyone else who thinks there's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians. NO it's not okay to take information from a foreign country who hacked our election and used social media to help Trump win the election.


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It seems good old Rudy is so far up the backside of the Trumpism that he has no problems with what is basically treason. What an idiot.

 

[Cardinal]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

The Clinton campaign did.
As did the Obama Admin.
No special standards for Trump.

Thanks for your lies. They’re always a hoot.

 

[Cardinal]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

Reminds me of another favorite quote of mine by Douglas Adams: "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job"

Hey, I only just noticed that your name is a funny color and that you’re a mod now. When did that happen?

I’ve read the hitchhikers books and listened to the radio series an...unhealthy...number of times.

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

Hey, I only just noticed that your name was a funny color and that you’re a mod now. When did that jasper?

I’ve read the hitchhikers books and listened to the radio series an...unhealthy...number of times.

Just happened today.

 

[Cardinal]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

Just happened today.

Congrats. Now remember: with great power comes the obligation to torment your enemies.

 

[HumblePi]

It seems good old Rudy is so far up the backside of the Trumpism that he has no problems with what is basically treason. What an idiot.

They're trying as hard as they can to normalize sharing information with Russia. This has to end and I hope they go for impeachment now rather than later.

 

[Athanasius68]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

Thanks for your lies. They’re always a hoot.

What can I tell ya? The Steele Dossier is from Russian sources. There is no dispute on this.
The Obama Admin used the dossier in a warrant on Mr. Page.
I am not understanding that you do not understand these facts.

 

[Athanasius68]

They're trying as hard as they can to normalize sharing information with Russia. This has to end and I hope they go for impeachment now rather than later.

What information was "shared" with Russia?

We know that the Obama Admin used information from Russia in court on an American citizen.
Do you think maybe that this was a problem as well?

 

[HumblePi]

What information was "shared" with Russia?

We know that the Obama Admin used information from Russia in court on an American citizen.
Do you think maybe that this was a problem as well?

Ask your god, Trump. It's he that has the relationship with Putin.

 

[Athanasius68]

Ask your god, Trump. It's he that has the relationship with Putin.

I am not particularly theological. Even on Easter.

Not understanding why the concern for one president but not the other.
Maybe it's was an across the board problem.

 

[Divine_Wind]

The special counsel said it did not establish enough evidence to bring charges of criminal conspiracy and detailed 10 allegations of Trump's attempts to obstruct the Russia investigation that left open whether Trump broke the law. All you have to prove for conspiracy is that they entered into a meeting of the minds to do something wrong and had one overt act. They entered into a meeting of the minds to attend a meeting to get stolen material on Hillary. They went to the meeting. That's conspiracy right there.

I’m fine with everyone involved being charged. Like Hillary and her deliberate mishandling of emails, it’s not what we think but what can be proved in court.

 

[noonereal]

"There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

If you are degenerate animal who could care less about your country.

This is not complicated:

If your countries biggest nemesis in the world wants to help you, you may not be the best thing for American.. If you want their help to get elected, you may be a piece of ****.