Roy Moore Might Win. Blame the Media

[LowDown]

“How have we reached a point in this country when nearly half the voters of a U.S. state so mistrust, and even revile, major media outlets that they are willing to brush aside credible evidence and elect an accused sexual predator simply out of spite? How have we reached a point where a president of the United States can just declare ‘fake’ news he doesn’t like—and largely get away with it?”

How, you ask? Consider this and this.

Also:

Kyle Smith: Unhinged coverage of Trump is hurting the media.

A year ago this week, I marveled at the pot-boiling-over frenzy of Donald Trump Derangement Syndrome in the media. Well, today, the media’s kitchen is a shambles. Spaghetti sauce is splattered all over the walls, and the Fourth Estate is pouring more Prego marinara into the pot while keeping the heat turned up to the level marked “thermonuclear.”

Not only is everything (still) hyper-politicized, but the lines between news media, lifestyle media and flat-out activism have faded into irrelevance. . . . The unhinged coverage of all Trump scandals, real and imagined, has cost the media in the eyes of the public, among whom only 39 percent said they had a “great deal” or even “some” confidence in news outlets last November.

You betcha.

 

[MrShangles]

What credible evidence are you talking about, I’ve only heard accusations, and a faked year book.


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[haymarket]

So if Ray Moore wins, the radical right wing who live in their own delusional reality apart from the rest of society, is ready to blame the media who they despise and abhor? It will not be the fault of phony christians who pretend to have family values but vote for a man their own Republican Governor accepts as a child molester over a Democrat .... apparently that category of individual places even lower on the scale of acceptance.... so it will be somebody else fault other than the voters?

Simply Amazing!!!!!!!!

 

[cuban smokes]

if the folks in northern Alabama want a skeezy old 'born again' child molester for a US Senator then that's their business

MHGA ..................... Make Hillbillies Great Again ..............

 

[Oborosen]

I will admit to Trump calling them fake new and sort of making it into some weird slogan. However their reaction to such is not something that I would admit that we should just overlook. They did just as much of this themselves.

 

[notquiteright]

“How have we reached a point in this country when nearly half the voters of a U.S. state so mistrust, and even revile, major media outlets that they are willing to brush aside credible evidence and elect an accused sexual predator simply out of spite? How have we reached a point where a president of the United States can just declare ‘fake’ news he doesn’t like—and largely get away with it?” You betcha.

More rabid right dribble. More like the rabid right southern so-called conservative is soooo partisan they would elect a dirty old man over ANY democrat! :doh

Several state GOP leaders have said as much.

We haven't reached a point where the President can get away with lying to the American people, only the rabid right is giving him a pass... eace

 

[joG]

“How have we reached a point in this country when nearly half the voters of a U.S. state so mistrust, and even revile, major media outlets that they are willing to brush aside credible evidence and elect an accused sexual predator simply out of spite? How have we reached a point where a president of the United States can just declare ‘fake’ news he doesn’t like—and largely get away with it?”

How, you ask? Consider this and this.

Also:



You betcha.

Remember the hidden persuaders? All news is good news.

 

[CMPancake]

Right, I guess this whole "Personal Responsibility" thing is just an insult to throw at poor people then? If you're going to back a Sexual Predator over a Democrat out of spite, be transparent about it at the very least.

 

[Prue]

“How have we reached a point in this country when nearly half the voters of a U.S. state so mistrust, and even revile, major media outlets that they are willing to brush aside credible evidence and elect an accused sexual predator simply out of spite? How have we reached a point where a president of the United States can just declare ‘fake’ news he doesn’t like—and largely get away with it?”

How, you ask? Consider this and this.

Also:



You betcha.

I do think there is some truth to what you are saying. There has been an overwhelming amount of coverage on the President but I think it's a mutually beneficial relationship for both. I would go a bit further and say that I think as much as the President touts news as fake the msm is still trying to figure out what will convince the President's supporters that o believe some of the information they are reporting. There is definitely a frenzy happening but it's born from shock. The msm continues to make similar mistakes that they did while covering the campaign. They are trying to understand and appeal to the President's supporters. I'm not sure why because it's been shown time and again that many of the supporters aren't driven by society norms. I don't say this as a criticism but as an observation.

So, coming full circle to your question I would say "Yes" the campaign to divide and sow the seeds of mistrust between citizens and news organizations has been very successful when it comes to that faction of the President's supporters. "Yes" Roy Moore will probably be elected. Sadly I've lost my faith in people doing the right thing. It seems the right thing must also align with political agendas now.

 

[Chomsky]

“How have we reached a point in this country when nearly half the voters of a U.S. state so mistrust, and even revile, major media outlets that they are willing to brush aside credible evidence and elect an accused sexual predator simply out of spite? How have we reached a point where a president of the United States can just declare ‘fake’ news he doesn’t like—and largely get away with it?”

How, you ask? Consider this and this.

Also:



You betcha.

So you're blaming the media, if Alabaman's elect an accused child molester to the Senate?

Maybe they should take responsibility for their actions, rather than blaming a bogeyman. They're the ones pulling the handle!

 

[Captain Adverse]

The key word is accused. Not "admitted," "proven," or "convicted."

If I were a member of a political party in a battle to maintain control over the reins of government, and one of the candidates I had to vote for to win a seat for that party has been accused of "crimes" where there is no evidence but naked claims supported by gossip?

I might very well still vote for my party's candidate, because if something does come from the allegations, he can always be removed later.

Much preferable to giving up a political advantage simply on the basis of accusations.

Another opportunity to use one of my favorite Monty Python segments:

 

[joG]

The key word is accused.

If I were a member of a political party in a battle to maintain control over the reins of government, and one of the candidates I had to vote for to win a seat for that party has been accused of "crimes" where there is no evidence but naked claims supported by gossip?

I might very well still vote for my party's candidate, because if something does come from the allegations, he can always be removed later.

Much preferable to giving up a political advantage simply on the basis of accusations.

Accused without evidence, one might want to add.

 

[joG]

So you're blaming the media, if Alabaman's elect an accused child molester to the Senate?

Maybe they should take responsibility for their actions, rather than blaming a bogeyman. They're the ones pulling the handle!

I hadn't seen much evidence. The voters saw how the media blew up the story and suspected it was slander due to the missing proof and mobbing driven by political bias. Thanks to the media name recognition is high.

 

[Buzz62]

if the folks in northern Alabama want a skeezy old 'born again' child molester for a US Senator then that's their business

MHGA ..................... Make Hillbillies Great Again ..............

Is there any PROOF to back-up these very convenient accusations?
Look...anyone who's turned on CNN or MSNBC or ABC or...any MSM other than FOX (who have their own credibility issues), knows that news has morphed into an endless litany of Trump-bashing. Don Lemon and the rest of those self-absorbed, butt-hurt assholes on CNN need to be replaced by a simple ticker-tape of just the news.

But again...is there any PROOF...what so ever?
If the answer is "no", then why should the conservatives of Alabama believe accusations stated as facts, in what looks like an obvious attempt to taint a Judge's reputation during a senatorial election?

 

[MaggieD]

What credible evidence are you talking about, I’ve only heard accusations, and a faked year book.


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The thread title almost belies the OP...?

There was a time, long long ago in a place now far far away that Moore would have quietly stepped down amid these myriad, albeit it unproven allegations. Instead, he is endorsed by other Repubs, most notable being Donald Teump. In the name of partisan politics, everyone has gone mad. When Trump was asked about Moore, I didn’t much like his crappy answer. His tweets about the race last night were over the top.

There hasn’t been due process... there won’t be, of course. But in the court of public opinion? He’s toast. In MY eyes his toast, or should be. I believe that most, if not all, of the allegations against him are true. If he wins, which I really don’t think he will, the voters should be ashamed of themselves.

I’d get it though. It’s the same as the presidential election... anybody but Hillary.

 

[HowardBThiname]

So if Ray Moore wins, the radical right wing who live in their own delusional reality apart from the rest of society, is ready to blame the media who they despise and abhor? It will not be the fault of phony christians who pretend to have family values but vote for a man their own Republican Governor accepts as a child molester over a Democrat .... apparently that category of individual places even lower on the scale of acceptance.... so it will be somebody else fault other than the voters?

Simply Amazing!!!!!!!!

It would depend on one's point of view, I assume, whether they want to "blame" or "credit" the media.

However they choose to look at it, though, the media played a HUGE role in getting Trump elected.

 

[Buzz62]

The thread title almost belies the OP...?

There was a time, long long ago in a place now far far away that Moore would have quietly stepped down amid these myriad, albeit it unproven allegations. Instead, he is endorsed by other Repubs, most notable being Donald Teump. In the name of partisan politics, everyone has gone mad. When Trump was asked about Moore, I didn’t much like his crappy answer. His tweets about the race last night were over the top.

There hasn’t been due process... there won’t be, of course. But in the court of public opinion? He’s toast. In MY eyes his toast, or should be. I believe that most, if not all, of the allegations against him are true. If he wins, which I really don’t think he will, the voters should be ashamed of themselves.

I’d get it though. It’s the same as the presidential election... anybody but Hillary.

Maggie...that time you're pining for?
In that time, such nonsense like these unproovable accusations would not have surfaced or even be taken seriously.
There is no proof. And in the complete absence of it, this becomes a common hatchet-job.

 

[MaggieD]

Maggie...that time you're pining for?
In that time, such nonsense like these unproovable accusations would not have surfaced or even be taken seriously.
There is no proof. And in the complete absence of it, this becomes a common hatchet-job.

But that is exactly how these predators get away with it. Unless these women were paid, give me credible reasons why they would lie.

 

[Buzz62]

But that is exactly how these predators get away with it. Unless these women were paid, give me credible reasons why they would lie.

Senatorial Election.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

It would depend on one's point of view, I assume, whether they want to "blame" or "credit" the media.

However they choose to look at it, though, the media played a HUGE role in getting Trump elected.

The media has lost so much credibility the people figure what every they say the opposite is most likely true.

 

[MaggieD]

Senatorial Election.

That’s not a reason.

 

[Buzz62]

That’s not a reason.

Come on Maggie...sure it is.
In fact, in today's hyper-partisan environment, the election is easier to believe then that Moore is some sort of child molester.

 

[tres borrachos]

I don't know about anyone else, but if Moore wins, I won't blame the media. I'll blame the people who voted for him.

 

[Buzz62]

I don't know about anyone else, but if Moore wins, I won't blame the media. I'll blame the people who voted for him.

And that will be very counter productive.
How many "Trumps" need to get elected to public office before you people realize that nobody likes to be talked down to?
When you pull this morality horse-kaka, you manage to steel conservatives against you...at all costs.

For a gang of people who like to claim moral and intellectual superiority...you people ain't all that moral or intellectual...are ya...

 

[tres borrachos]

And that will be very counter productive.
How many "Trumps" need to get elected to public office before you people realize that nobody likes to be talked down to?
When you pull this morality horse-kaka, you manage to steel conservatives against you...at all costs.

For a gang of people who like to claim moral and intellectual superiority...you people ain't all that moral or intellectual...are ya...

Who are you, and who are "you people" and my "gang"?