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Roy Moore in 2011: Getting rid of amendments after 10th would 'eliminate many problems'

Roy's right! He right! When they put dat 'Mendment in there, it made errthang worse. Now look what's happened. We have to like, actually recognize African Americans as citizens now. An' u can't separate the white kids and black kids no more in public school, and the gays can get married now cuz of it!

Madness! Madness I tell you!

Like I mentioned else where, They said that if they allowed them gays to get married, they would be accepting pedophiles next. Sure enough, that what they are doing.
 
You’ll have take that up with chuckiechan.......

Look at the post #24 above. It was in the same time frame, but it's really about the dual justice system we are creating in this country - actually four justice systems:

Your tribe, my tribe, and the Clintons, and the Trumps.

This **** ain't good for anyone.
 
Not challenging your opinion that he may be a sex offender, but what has he done that makes you accuse him of being a racist?


We aren't just talking about slavery. We are talking about countless families being ripped apart at auctions during the Antebellum Period. Yet Moore's comment was in the context of family values. Obviously, he only meant certain families.

And now we see his comments about how America would be better off had we only the Bill of Rights? (1-10) The two separate comments go hand in hand. But let's see what those later Amendments entailed...

11th - Establishes state rights and sovereignty from each other.
12th - Presidential election procedures.
13th - Abolishes slavery and indentured servitude.
14th - Defines citizenship and other post-Civil War issues.
15th - Prohibits the denial of the right to vote based on race, color or previous condition of servitude.
16th - Permits Congress to levy an income tax.
17th - Direct election of senators
18th - Prohibition
19th - Female right to vote
20th - 27th - Election bureaucracies, a repeal of the 18th, voting issues, and salaries.

Do you think Roy Moore's concern about the Amendments, following the Tenth, was how states have sovereign rights? It's simple to accuse one of being an obvious racist when one presents himself as such. And, of course, relegating women back to pre-19th Amendment powerlessness makes his behavior towards girls somewhat acceptable, doesn't it?

The guy is a douche on many levels. Let's not even go into how this world view and perspective comes wrapped in religious extremism. Were he an Arab, we would call him an Islamist.
 
If you don't want to hijack my thread, then why did you post about someone drowning in a car and not what the subject of my thread is? To the best of my knowledge nobody ever drowned in Roy Moore's car.

It's what we do here, and both are senators or wanna be senators, both involved women, and both happend years ago, and neither was prosecuted, and one remains a hero, one a cad.
 
The banner at the bottom of my first ads will read: "I never grabbed a 14 year old's penis and nobody every drowned in my car. Vote for me!"

MrPeanut 2020

"Nobody ever drowned in my car."

You guys joke, but Doug Jones could literally put "Doug Jones: Not A Child Molester" in his election banner, and it's not enough to put him over the top.
 
Not challenging your opinion that he may be a sex offender, but what has he done that makes you accuse him of being a racist?

Well, his ethic references for one. He calls Americans of asian decent 'yellows', and native americans' red' for one.
 
America had a black president for eight years. After that a nut case with a serious mental disorder is elected and we are focused on racism and sex with children. I guess there is no getting better in this country.
 
Just how to you go about stopping someone from running for office? And BTW, no one ever drowned in Roy Moore's car!

Oh yay...

Since we are playing irrelevant "whataboutisms"... And he didn't blow up the Murrah building in Oklahoma either.
 
Well, his ethic references for one. He calls Americans of asian decent 'yellows', and native americans' red' for one.
So did John Lennon.
 
It's what we do here, and both are senators or wanna be senators, both involved women, and both happend years ago, and neither was prosecuted, and one remains a hero, one a cad.

We're talking about the words of a cad.
 
Interesting. Please cite for us the context so that we may rationally compare the two.

Thanks in advance!
Yes, so... Whereas Moore referenced a song using those terms; John Lennon of course wrote one.
You're welcome!
 
Yes, so... Whereas Moore referenced a song using those terms; John Lennon of course wrote one.
You're welcome!

What is that song you're referring to? It doesn't have any relevance to the topic, but I am curious.
 
Well, tomorrow will prove much. Even if the offensive Moore loses, the obvious sex offender and clear racist will get a substantial amount of votes proving that this country has a tribal problem. Irrational and baseless seething hate for the Left will encourage far too many Conservatives (Christians, fathers, and mothers) to choose trash like Roy Moore to represent them simply because he is on the Right. The "best candidate for the job" just isn't in our national lexicon anymore.

And isn't Alabama one of those states where there are a billion black voters? The candidates might not be black, which matters according to the record numbers who came out to vote in 2008 and 2012, but let's see if they even care. If they do not get out and vote as they should, it will show that a lot of their arguments against racism is just hot air.

Spend some time in the Deep South and find out why Alabama (26% black) and Mississippi (35% black) have almost solidly-white representation in Washington and always have (except for a little bit during Reconstruction). Most whites down there will not vote for a black guy - some will, but most won't. That's why it's a real gamble for Doug Jones to try to encourage the blacks to vote, because by doing so, there will be whites who switch over to Moore for that reason alone.

And no, this is not B.S. Read up on Nixon's "Southern Strategy" - his campaign knew that if they were going to win the electoral votes of the Deep South, they had to reach out to what they called the "negrophobes":

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

And Nixon's campaign was right. See the bolded part? The Deep South used to be the Democrats' "Solid South", but now it's the strongest base of the GOP...since those in power in the South are the children of those who fought so hard against desegregation. The apples don't fall far from the tree.

Look, maybe you've lived in the Deep South...but that doesn't automatically mean you understand the Deep South. Racism informs so much of daily life there - you don't see it, but if you were raised there as I was (and I was raised racist), it can't be hidden from you. Anyway, that's why those "billion blacks" you referred to don't have more representation - the whites make doggone sure it doesn't happen. The whites are a strong majority, and by mostly refusing to vote for blacks, not many blacks get elected except for in urban areas or strongly majority-black regions such as the MS Delta...and very few blacks get elected for statewide offices.

You can try to deny all this if you want...but that really is the way it is Down South. Nixon's team knew it and acted on it, and that's why the Deep South is solidly Republican instead of remaining the Democratic "Solid South". The "negrophobes" outnumber the blacks, pure and simple.

One more thing - those "negrophobes" and racists...if you ask them, they'll swear up and down that they're not racist at all. That's the way it was with my family - we would have been greatly offended if someone called us racist, after all the food and clothing and money that we shared with our black neighbors, and we held no malice towards them. But we were racist indeed, because as soon as the blacks were out of earshot, out would come all the racist jokes, accusations, and allegations...and we never realized how our "secret racism" informed our social and political attitudes in ways that directly harmed the blacks. In other words, most racists don't even recognize their racism for what it really is...but blacks - and those of us who made the journey out of racism - can see it, we can see it plain as day, we can't help but see it. But those Down South who don't recognize their own racism can't see it at all, just as it's doggone hard for a lifelong smoker to be able to smell cigarettes.
 
We aren't just talking about slavery. We are talking about countless families being ripped apart at auctions during the Antebellum Period. Yet Moore's comment was in the context of family values. Obviously, he only meant certain families.

And now we see his comments about how America would be better off had we only the Bill of Rights? (1-10) The two separate comments go hand in hand. But let's see what those later Amendments entailed...

11th - Establishes state rights and sovereignty from each other.
12th - Presidential election procedures.
13th - Abolishes slavery and indentured servitude.
14th - Defines citizenship and other post-Civil War issues.
15th - Prohibits the denial of the right to vote based on race, color or previous condition of servitude.
16th - Permits Congress to levy an income tax.
17th - Direct election of senators
18th - Prohibition
19th - Female right to vote
20th - 27th - Election bureaucracies, a repeal of the 18th, voting issues, and salaries.

Do you think Roy Moore's concern about the Amendments, following the Tenth, was how states have sovereign rights? It's simple to accuse one of being an obvious racist when one presents himself as such. And, of course, relegating women back to pre-19th Amendment powerlessness makes his behavior towards girls somewhat acceptable, doesn't it?

The guy is a douche on many levels. Let's not even go into how this world view and perspective comes wrapped in religious extremism. Were he an Arab, we would call him an Islamist.

I don't dispute his status as a douche, but he doesn't meet the level of being a racist from what you post.

Definition: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
 
Well, his ethic references for one. He calls Americans of asian decent 'yellows', and native americans' red' for one.

Calling people a slur of their perceived ethnicity does not constitute racism.

Definition: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
 
He calls Asian Americans 'yellows' and Native Americans 'reds', for starters.

Without anything more, you are demonstrating that you don't know the meaning of the word racist.
 
Calling people a slur of their perceived ethnicity does not constitute racism.

Definition: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

The fact he wants to repeal the amendment that outlawed slavery should give you pause on that account.
 
The fact he wants to repeal the amendment that outlawed slavery should give you pause on that account.

It does give me pause, but it doesn't rise to the level of racism.
 
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