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Romney - "a salesman and bull**** artist of the highest order"

Dusty Rhodes said:
Everyone has to start somewhere. Anything else?
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Exactly.

Which is why we shouldn't discourage people from starting. Take a job, lose your health care is not a formula for encouraging people to become independent of government handouts.
 
Hairytic said:
The health care bill mandate was upheld by the SCOTUS. I personally view health care as a constitutional right in which all citizens should be able to get health care. I see it as constitutional under the General Welfare clause of the US constitution.
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You should have learned in school that is in the Preamble, unless you were talking about the Taxing and Spending clause.


The U.S. Supreme Court has held the mention of the clause in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution "has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the Government of the United States or on any of its Departments."
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Dittohead not! said:
Exactly.

Which is why we shouldn't discourage people from starting. Take a job, lose your health care is not a formula for encouraging people to become independent of government handouts.
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It's motivation. Struggle is part of life. I survived and so can others.
 
Gardener said:
My theory is that they aspire to be in the class he represents, but haven't the wits to realize that they will never be in it.
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We call that the "American Dream." ;)
 
Dittohead not! said:
Yes. Me too. That's why I don't think it's a good idea to discourage people from making that struggle.
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You discourage people from making the struggle by not requiring them to make it.
 
AdamT said:
Romney 2012: Welcome to Strugglesville!
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Struggle is how character is developed. You saw it last night. The big man was Romney and the small man was Obama.
 
Dusty Rhodes said:
You discourage people from making the struggle by not requiring them to make it.
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How is losing their health care if they do take a job "not requiring them to make it"?

That makes no sense at all.

People who work should be better off than people who don't.

Don't you think?
 
Dittohead not! said:
How is losing their health care if they do take a job "not requiring them to make it"?

That makes no sense at all.

People who work should be better off than people who don't.

Don't you think?
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You're assuming the person who finds a job is never going to have health care from their job. Why do yo default to victimhood?
 
Dusty Rhodes said:
Struggle is how character is developed. You saw it last night. The big man was Romney and the small man was Obama.
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Right, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Nietzsche. Wasn't he Hitler's favorite philosopher?

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Dusty Rhodes said:
You're assuming the person who finds a job is never going to have health care from their job. Why do yo default to victimhood?
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You don't receive benefits your first day...
 
AdamT said:
Right, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Nietzsche. Wasn't he Hitler's favorite philosopher?

Oh no I di'int!!
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Wrong, Nietzsche wasn't a pre-Nazi. Kaufmann debunked that long ago.
 
Dusty Rhodes said:
You're assuming the person who finds a job is never going to have health care from their job. Why do yo default to victimhood?
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It's not "victimhood". It's a situation that discourages people from getting off of the dole. It's counter productive and a bad economic policy.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Right. So - if you lose your health care when you get a job, you are SOL until you get those benefits.
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You need to get out more. Yes, that's the way it has always been. LOL.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Tying Nietzsche in with Hitler says different. :shrug:
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Saying that Nietsche was not a pre-Nazi is not the same thing as saying that Hitler wasn't influenced by Nietschi. It's pretty clear that he was -- even if he didn't interpret him correctly, or relied on texts bastardized by Nietsche's Nazi sister.
 
AdamT said:
Saying that Nietsche was not a pre-Nazi is not the same thing as saying that Hitler wasn't influenced by Nietschi. It's pretty clear that he was -- even if he didn't interpret him correctly, or relied on texts bastardized by Nietsche's Nazi sister.
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It's silly to try and tie him in, though. Hitler probably never even read Nietzsche.

Also, seeing your complete failure at spelling his name 3 times shows your lack of rehearsal in postmodern and post-structuralism, specifically that of Germans.
 
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