Roger Stone Communicated With Russian Hackers, Mueller Indictment Suggests

[Howard the Duck]

As well he should.

I'm not the puppet. YOU'RE THE PUPPET.

;-)

 

[lurchadams]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...ueller-indictment_us_5b48d9dce4b0bc69a786e89c

Among the revelations in special counsel Robert Mueller’s indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers on Friday involved in hacking the Democratic National Committee was that the hackers communicated with individuals in the United States — including “a person who was in regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump.”

Although not named in Friday’s documents, that person is widely known to be Trump confidant Roger Stone, who has previously posted screenshots of his interactions with one of the hackers, Guccifer 2.0.
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Who wants to bet whether or not Stone is among the next shoes to drop in the Mueller probe?

I see a non-decorative ankle bracelet in Stone's near future! Couldn't happen to a nicer scumbag.

 

[lurchadams]

Wait wait wait.
There is no evidence that points anything to trump.

Yet I have shown you fact living proof evidence that the clinton campaign and the dnc did in fact use Russian contacts,
And all you can is but trump?

Wow thanks for proving you really don't care about actual russia meddling in our election.

Just another TDS rant.

Yep, the DNC were in Putin's back pocket. That's why the Kremlin hacked the campaign's emails and leaked them, collaborating the whole time with the Trump campaign. Get real!

 

[Howard the Duck]

well if you read the GOP part that got hacked was old addresses and things not being used.
So there was probably nothing there to release.

If there was then Steele should have found it from his russian sources that he was using.
So when are we going to have a 2 year+ long investigation into that.

I thought that was muellers job to look into Russian meddling in the election.
so far he hasn't indicted Steele, Fusion the DNC or the clinton campaign.

so i guess he isn't too concerned with russian meddling unless it is Trump campaign.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

Where is mueller on this?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-...-commissioned-the-trump-russia-dossier-speaks

where is mueller here?

Steele relied on “a network of people, sources” that he had in Russia, which gathered information for him.

i don't seem Mueller anywhere. Why is that?

that is concerete proof the the clinton campaign not once but twice was involved with Russian/Urkanian governments to meddle in the election.

and we have silence. hence why this is a complete shame of an investigation.
you should be outraged.

But I'm not.

 

[Kobie]

well if you read the GOP part that got hacked was old addresses and things not being used.
So there was probably nothing there to release.

If there was then Steele should have found it from his russian sources that he was using.
So when are we going to have a 2 year+ long investigation into that.

I thought that was muellers job to look into Russian meddling in the election.
so far he hasn't indicted Steele, Fusion the DNC or the clinton campaign.

so i guess he isn't too concerned with russian meddling unless it is Trump campaign.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

Where is mueller on this?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-...-commissioned-the-trump-russia-dossier-speaks

where is mueller here?

Steele relied on “a network of people, sources” that he had in Russia, which gathered information for him.

i don't seem Mueller anywhere. Why is that?

that is concerete proof the the clinton campaign not once but twice was involved with Russian/Urkanian governments to meddle in the election.

and we have silence. hence why this is a complete shame of an investigation.
you should be outraged.

:lamo

 

[Kobie]

Yep, the DNC were in Putin's back pocket. That's why the Kremlin hacked the campaign's emails and leaked them, collaborating the whole time with the Trump campaign. Get real!

It's ludin. You'd have better results slamming yourself in the face with a brick. He's utterly delusional.

 

[late]

:lol: Thank you for my new sig! May I?

Sure, it's not really mine, this is where it came from:

 

[bubbabgone]

And that "naivete" is just as poorly acted.
First of all, you left out this part:

"thank u for writing back", which clearly shows Stone (we'll say Stone, since it seems fairly obvious) was already communicating. Furthermore, nothing in the indictment says it was the ONLY communication Stone had with the Russians. But just from the indictment we know for a fact Stone wrote to Guccifer 2.0 at least twice over a period of a couple weeks and received three messages back...yes, that's a conversation.

Why are you posting so many lies about this?

Where's the part that says Stone knew Guccifer was Russian Intel ... in 2015.
Stone's time in the Trump campaign was very short and ended in 2015.

 

[vesper]

Yes it is. After having your initial accusation proven false, you tried to salvage it with a completely unrelated offense to prove your original point. It was pathetic.

Says the person who has repeatedly posted things already proven false.

You're still pushing this lie? There was no evidence found of the things you accused him of. Stop pushing the lie.

None of which has anything to do with anything we've discussed. Why are you wasting our time with lies and red herrings? Our conversation has NOTHING to do with Schultz.

:lol:

So let's see...they hack old e-mails and don't release them and don't hack the Trump campaign or the current RNC, even though they spent MONTHS attacking DNC materials. And now we find they were actively helping the Trump team and that a (likely Republican) Congressional candidate came to them for information on his/her opponent in the race.

Thank you for proving my point. I guess even people who regularly post falsehoods can be useful every now and then.

My only mistake was not using the word alleged when speaking about Imran Awan. He was being investigated by the Capitol Police and the FBI when he was arrested at Dulles airport for bank fraud for things like illegally removing House data from the House network or from House members' offices, stealing the House Democratic Caucus server, stealing or destroying House information technology equipment, or improperly accessing or transferring government information, including classified or sensitive information. At the completion of the investigation prosecutors said allegations of misconduct by Awan while on the job in Congress had determined federal charges were not warranted. However he did plead guilty to bank fraud and took a plea deal that would keep his wife who is now in Pakistan from being charged also. He will be sentenced in Aug.
Ex-Dem IT aide Imran Awan pleads guilty to bank fraud in deal with prosecutors | Fox News

As far as the RNC not getting hacked doesn't mean that there were no attempts to because it has already been proved that there were attempts to hack the RNC using the same techniques as was done to the DNC. The difference is the RNC's security foiled them.

Russian hackers tried to penetrate the computer networks of the Republican National Committee, using the same techniques that allowed them to infiltrate its Democratic counterpart, according to U.S. officials who have been briefed on the attempted intrusion.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/republ...ee-security-foiled-russian-hackers-1481850043

Now over the past couple of years there seems to be a theme of incompetence and down right negligence within the Democratic Party and the DNC when it comes to security.


Multiple reports out there that say Clinton's private server was compromised.

We learned that Huma Abadin recklessly downloaded Clinton's emails to her husband's computer and that some of the emails were very sensitive. The same computer Anthony Weiner used to sext minors.
State Department releases Huma Abedin's emails found on Anthony Weiner's laptop - Chicago Tribune
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We have learned that Russians using the same tactics attempted to hack both the RNC and the DNC. They were only successful with the DNC.

We have learned the IT guy Awan who had access to several Democrat's emails/documents was found to be involved in unlawful activities while in the position as their IT tech.


Hopefully the DNC and the Democratic party as a whole are now taking cyber security more seriously.

 

[bubbabgone]

My only mistake was not using the word alleged when speaking about Imran Awan. He was being investigated by the Capitol Police and the FBI when he was arrested at Dulles airport for bank fraud for things like illegally removing House data from the House network or from House members' offices, stealing the House Democratic Caucus server, stealing or destroying House information technology equipment, or improperly accessing or transferring government information, including classified or sensitive information. At the completion of the investigation prosecutors said allegations of misconduct by Awan while on the job in Congress had determined federal charges were not warranted. However he did plead guilty to bank fraud and took a plea deal that would keep his wife who is now in Pakistan from being charged also. He will be sentenced in Aug.
Ex-Dem IT aide Imran Awan pleads guilty to bank fraud in deal with prosecutors | Fox News

As far as the RNC not getting hacked doesn't mean that there were no attempts to because it has already been proved that there were attempts to hack the RNC using the same techniques as was done to the DNC. The difference is the RNC's security foiled them.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/republ...ee-security-foiled-russian-hackers-1481850043

Now over the past couple of years there seems to be a theme of incompetence and down right negligence within the Democratic Party and the DNC when it comes to security.


Multiple reports out there that say Clinton's private server was compromised.

We learned that Huma Abadin recklessly downloaded Clinton's emails to her husband's computer and that some of the emails were very sensitive. The same computer Anthony Weiner used to sext minors.
State Department releases Huma Abedin's emails found on Anthony Weiner's laptop - Chicago Tribune
.
We have learned that Russians using the same tactics attempted to hack both the RNC and the DNC. They were only successful with the DNC.

We have learned the IT guy Awan who had access to several Democrat's emails/documents was found to be involved in unlawful activities while in the position as their IT tech.


Hopefully the DNC and the Democratic party as a whole are now taking cyber security more seriously.

I like and respect Slyfox even though he stopped responding to me yesterday when I asked him if he was looking into what Fusion was doing with the Russian lady lawyer who met with Trump Junior.
After all, he did kind of imply All Russians = Russian Intel so it'd be natural line of inquiry.

As for someone else who's replying to you on this thread, there are only a few here who post that many substance-free-attacks on such a regular basis as that person. Have you noticed that too?

 

[vesper]

I like and respect Slyfox even though he stopped responding to me yesterday when I asked him if he was looking into what Fusion was doing with the Russian lady lawyer who met with Trump Junior.
After all, he did kind of imply All Russians = Russian Intel so it'd be natural line of inquiry.

As for someone else who's replying to you on this thread, there are only a few here who post that many substance-free-attacks on such a regular basis as that person. Have you noticed that too?

Your line of questioning to include the Russian atty with ties to Fusion is an important one. Glenn Simpson has major ties to Russians as he has been lobbying for them to have the Magnitsky Act overturned at the same time he hired Christopher Steele to compose the Trump Dossier for the DNC.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/new...-russian-intel-officer-joined-lobbying-effort

I thought the recent hearing where the FBI would not allow Strzok to answer certain questions often were linked to Bruce Ohr and his ties to Fusion and the related questions into how many versions of the Dossier had the FBI received is proof that there is a major investigation ongoing and Fusion is at the heart of it. And didn't the author Steele list Russians as his sources for what was published in the Dossier?


So if folks want to have a discussion of Russian involvement lets have one including all the Russians involved like those sources Steele used that helped create the Dossier and Simpson/Fusion GPS ties to oligarchs as well.

 

[bubbabgone]

Your line of questioning to include the Russian atty with ties to Fusion is an important one. Glenn Simpson has major ties to Russians as he has been lobbying for them to have the Magnitsky Act overturned at the same time he hired Christopher Steele to compose the Trump Dossier for the DNC.

Right. So arranging for someone to meet with Junior, meeting with that person before and afterwards, and disguising the purpose as having dirt on Hillary would make sense from their point of view.
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/new...-russian-intel-officer-joined-lobbying-effort

I thought the recent hearing where the FBI would not allow Strzok to answer certain questions often were linked to Bruce Ohr and his ties to Fusion and the related questions into how many versions of the Dossier had the FBI received is proof that there is a major investigation ongoing and Fusion is at the heart of it. And didn't the author Steele list Russians as his sources for what was published in the Dossier?

Let's hope there's someone looking at Fusion and we're just not hearing about it.
Maybe the leaks just aren't coming or all the journalists are occupied elsewhere.
But yes, it's common knowledge that Russians were Steele's sources.
I guess they were the good Russians.
Not the Russian Intel that Steele would know about from his MI6 days.

So if folks want to have a discussion of Russian involvement lets have one including all the Russians involved like those sources Steele used that helped create the Dossier and Simpson/Fusion GPS ties to oligarchs as well.

Right again

 

[ludin]

Yep, the DNC were in Putin's back pocket. That's why the Kremlin hacked the campaign's emails and leaked them, collaborating the whole time with the Trump campaign. Get real!

You should read the links I posted.
Instead of inventing things I never said.

 

[ludin]

But I'm not.

Which is why we know you really don't care about Russian meddling in the election.

 

[ludin]

:lamo

Y p this is what inspected from you. Amazing isn't it that you can't seem to actually address facts.

 

[Howard the Duck]

Which is why we know you really don't care about Russian meddling in the election.

Of course I do, I just am too smart to buy the Fox faux narrative.

 

[lurchadams]

You should read the links I posted.
Instead of inventing things I never said.

Inventing things is exactly what you're doing.

 

[ludin]

Of course I do, I just am too smart to buy the Fox faux narrative.

Since none of the links I
I posted were from Fox News you are again wrong. You should have read the links but as I said we know you are not worried about Russian meddling.

 

[ludin]

Inventing things is exactly what you're doing.

Again I am not inventing anything.
Read the links hey support everything I said, but I know you won't because then you actually have to address facts and be honest in the discussion.

 

[Howard the Duck]

Again I am not inventing anything.
Read the links hey support everything I said, but I know you won't because then you actually have to address facts and be honest in the discussion.

Your boy is going down. Trump simply has too many little blue dresses on the record to survive this.

 

[ludin]

Your boy is going down. Trump simply has too many little blue dresses on the record to survive this.

As I said your not interested in Russian meddling. Thanks for supporting what I said.

 

[Mach]

Wait wait wait.There is no evidence that points anything to trump.

Reams of evidence point to Trump being complicit.
1. Trump's long history of prior dealings in Russia, hookers, inability to get funding with U.S. banks, Trump Tower Moscow, his Wooing of Putin in Russia, left him wide open to extortion
2. Trump's surprise win, that no one predicted, with unprecedented Russian hacking, meddling, along with help from Republicans, to swing the election in Trumps favor
3. The long list of denials and omissions by Trump and his campaign with regards to associations with Russians before, during, and after the campaign...with the resulting investigations from others showing over and over and that they did have meetings, tried to set up secret back channels, Don Jr. Trump Tower...then the cover up.
4. Trump meeting with Russians after elected kicking U.S. press out.
5. Trump's extremely bizarre reluctance to neither punish Russia for its actions, nor say anything bad or blame them.
6. Paired with Trump's extremely bizarre full frontal attack on our allies in the press and in summits, on trade, etc., while smiling and preaching love to Russia
7. Obstruction of the DOJ, firing Comey, calling it a witch hunt 24/7, calling the investigators corrupt, pardon dangling
8 Trumps hiring of Manafort, dirty and connected to Russians, in debt no less
9. Trumps unknown financial backers...he can't use U.S. banks because he loses money.

I could go on. Probably all day. I'd really have to hire a team I think to pull all the evidence that shows Trump is behaving as though he's conspired with Russia, either under duress, out of stupidity, or knowing full well what he's doing...

But Hillary/Obama! Yuck yuck.

 

[haymarket]

Reams of evidence point to Trump being complicit.
1. Trump's long history of prior dealings in Russia, hookers, inability to get funding with U.S. banks, Trump Tower Moscow, his Wooing of Putin in Russia, left him wide open to extortion
2. Trump's surprise win, that no one predicted, with unprecedented Russian hacking, meddling, along with help from Republicans, to swing the election in Trumps favor
3. The long list of denials and omissions by Trump and his campaign with regards to associations with Russians before, during, and after the campaign...with the resulting investigations from others showing over and over and that they did have meetings, tried to set up secret back channels, Don Jr. Trump Tower...then the cover up.
4. Trump meeting with Russians after elected kicking U.S. press out.
5. Trump's extremely bizarre reluctance to neither punish Russia for its actions, nor say anything bad or blame them.
6. Paired with Trump's extremely bizarre full frontal attack on our allies in the press and in summits, on trade, etc., while smiling and preaching love to Russia
7. Obstruction of the DOJ, firing Comey, calling it a witch hunt 24/7, calling the investigators corrupt, pardon dangling

I could go on. Probably all day. I'd really have to hire a team I think to pull all the evidence that shows Trump is behaving as though he's conspired with Russia, either under duress, out of stupidity, or knowing full well what he's doing...

But Hillary/Obama! Yuck yuck.

We do not have to pool our money to hire that team .... Robert Mueller is doing that for us..... and I strongly suspect he will connect all the Russian and Trump dots and will not leave us disappointed.

 

[Mach]

We do not have to pool our money to hire that team .... Robert Mueller is doing that for us..... and I strongly suspect he will connect all the Russian and Trump dots and will not leave us disappointed.

I agree. I'm simply pointing out that the claim:

"There is no evidence that anything points to Trump"

Is so trivially shown to be false, that it's unbelievable someone could even suggest it. There is an enormous body of evidence pointing to the guilty of a wide range of people who have not yet been indicted, just in the public record. Motive, evidence of cover up and lies, denial, connections, history of similar sketchy activity, Russia's 20+ agents who did engage in that activity, Russia's known methods of grooming others to assist, etc., etc.

no evidence? That *anything* points to Trump? Is absurd.

 

[ludin]

Your line of questioning to include the Russian atty with ties to Fusion is an important one. Glenn Simpson has major ties to Russians as he has been lobbying for them to have the Magnitsky Act overturned at the same time he hired Christopher Steele to compose the Trump Dossier for the DNC.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/new...-russian-intel-officer-joined-lobbying-effort

I thought the recent hearing where the FBI would not allow Strzok to answer certain questions often were linked to Bruce Ohr and his ties to Fusion and the related questions into how many versions of the Dossier had the FBI received is proof that there is a major investigation ongoing and Fusion is at the heart of it. And didn't the author Steele list Russians as his sources for what was published in the Dossier?


So if folks want to have a discussion of Russian involvement lets have one including all the Russians involved like those sources Steele used that helped create the Dossier and Simpson/Fusion GPS ties to oligarchs as well.

The problem is that people are not interested in all Russian meddling.
They only care about trump.

I posted two articles that linked the hilllary o not only Russia but to the Ukrainian government as well.
And you noticed that none of these people blinked an eye.

More so all they can do is just hand wave.
There is a ton of evidence that the FBI used steeles report that came from Russia that was spotty at best to

Why is fusions offices not raided with the DNC.
We can't really raid hillary's she kept having it destroyed.

I wonder why the DNC wouldn't turn over their server to have it inspected after they said it was hacked.
I am sure there are reasons why. There is now cause to actually get a warrant for that server.

Yet I keep asking where is mueller.